nate5054
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Post by nate5054 on Sept 29, 2018 19:43:14 GMT -5
As much as I would love to see Kofi as World Champ, at the very least, he's going to be the Tito Santana/Arn Anderson of his generation. And that's not a bad position at all. Honestly I look back more fondly at wrestlers like Tito and Arn more than a Sid Vicious, even though the latter had the strap. There's something to be said about consistent greatness, or even consistent goodness in pro wrestling.
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Post by abjordans on Sept 29, 2018 19:48:31 GMT -5
Everyone calls this the lost generation, but they made major stars in Miz, Bryan, Punk, Ziggler, and Kofi. These are major HOF headliners. Plus, Morrison had a long, good run. Cody is one of the biggest stars in the business. Shelton is still around. They aren’t that lost.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2018 19:59:03 GMT -5
Everyone calls this the lost generation, but they made major stars in Miz, Bryan, Punk, Ziggler, and Kofi. These are major HOF headliners. Plus, Morrison had a long, good run. Cody is one of the biggest stars in the business. Shelton is still around. They aren’t that lost. Compared to the other generations they're lost which is why they're called that. We're not saying they haven't produced any major superstars.
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Post by abjordans on Sept 29, 2018 20:02:22 GMT -5
Everyone calls this the lost generation, but they made major stars in Miz, Bryan, Punk, Ziggler, and Kofi. These are major HOF headliners. Plus, Morrison had a long, good run. Cody is one of the biggest stars in the business. Shelton is still around. They aren’t that lost. Compared to the other generations they're lost which is why they're called that. We're not saying they haven't produced any major superstars. I think they produced enough to not be lost, that’s just my opinion though. Is AJ and Samoa Joe part of that generation too? I think it could be argued they have produced more stars than The Shield era for sure.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2018 21:02:41 GMT -5
Compared to the other generations they're lost which is why they're called that. We're not saying they haven't produced any major superstars. I think they produced enough to not be lost, that’s just my opinion though. Is AJ and Samoa Joe part of that generation too? I think it could be argued they have produced more stars than The Shield era for sure. Styles and Joe are apart of The Shield's era given we're going by WWE tenure. The Shield's era began when they became major singles stars and everything past that in the WWE has been apart of that era. If you look at everyone who's debuted in WWE and become something today compared to the Golden, Attitude Era, Ruthless Aggression Era and today it's pretty clear that the Lost Generation's just at the bottom of that list.
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Post by Woo on Sept 30, 2018 0:15:42 GMT -5
The best of that era has to be John Morrison. The only one as good in ring as him is Bryan and the only ones a good a promo as him are Miz and Punk. Just about the best wrestler on the planet imo.
I used to think Swagger was another lost guy, but after watching Lucha Underground I hope he's never found again.
Still can't believe how much talent they wasted then. It's even worse with the women when we could have had MsChif, Lacey, Daizee Haze, Cheerleader Melissa, Amazing Kong, Portia Perez, Mercedes Martinez, Sara Del Rey, Sarah Stock and Becky Lynch at her absolute best in the mid 2000's if they weren't so hell bent on viewing women as just tits and vaginas.
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Sept 30, 2018 3:41:57 GMT -5
I'd have Sheamus in there. Brought into the main event way too soon but has always been a good hand in the ring and on the mic, save for that weird period where he was forced on us as the Irish John Cena, and re invented himself as a great tag wrestler in maybe my most favourite thrown together tag team of all time. The Bar have been building a good legacy for themselves as a tag team on the downlow.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Sept 30, 2018 8:36:34 GMT -5
I'd move the placing around a bit (the only people who have any business being #1 or 2 there are Bryan and Punk) but yeah. I think it's really telling that outside of these 5 guys I can't even think of anyone else.
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Post by Nosnorb on Sept 30, 2018 8:40:33 GMT -5
He should be in there too. At the moment, he is carrying Dolph Ziggler in storyline and out, his run on the Indies was outstanding (and he is one of the reasons why the British scene is currently thriving) and based on his current push, it looks like only a matter of time before he wins the Universal Title.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2018 9:22:20 GMT -5
I'd move the placing around a bit (the only people who have any business being #1 or 2 there are Bryan and Punk) but yeah. I think it's really telling that outside of these 5 guys I can't even think of anyone else. It's in no real order. He should be in there too. At the moment, he is carrying Dolph Ziggler in storyline and out, his run on the Indies was outstanding (and he is one of the reasons why the British scene is currently thriving) and based on his current push, it looks like only a matter of time before he wins the Universal Title.
Nah, not yet. Yeah he had the NXT Title but besides that he hasn't really had the accolades the others have. In the future he'll probably qualify but we'll see what happens with him.
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Post by MrElijah on Sept 30, 2018 9:47:32 GMT -5
I just realized Sheamus is an IC Title win away from having a complete checklist(Grand Slam, KOR, Rumble, MiTB).
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Sept 30, 2018 9:52:16 GMT -5
The crazy thing is that we're talking about a "generation" in the case of what amounts to about a whole decade and change worth of WWE programming. By all accounts we're looking at like two different generations worth of dudes spread out across a whole decade, and we're only looking at them as one due to a mix of creative stagnation that kept the product from evolving or growing, and a stunning array of failures that left very few standing from that whole long-ass range. Even calling it just one generation feels almost generous to WWE.
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Post by msc on Sept 30, 2018 12:23:07 GMT -5
If Drew (debuted 2007) isn't on that list yet, think he will be soon. Sheamus - 4 time? world champ - for sure, and one of the best big men since Vader imo.
Though really the lost gen are Kennedy, carlito, et all... Lost.
Really what this list, and WoS, is making me realise is how much I miss Bad News Barrett...
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Sept 30, 2018 14:14:40 GMT -5
The crazy thing is that we're talking about a "generation" in the case of what amounts to about a whole decade and change worth of WWE programming. By all accounts we're looking at like two different generations worth of dudes spread out across a whole decade, and we're only looking at them as one due to a mix of creative stagnation that kept the product from evolving or growing, and a stunning array of failures that left very few standing from that whole long-ass range. Even calling it just one generation feels almost generous to WWE. Even moreso... ...how many people are left standing from WWECW? Miz, Kofi, Sheamus, Tye (sort of), Shelton (sort of), Hawkins and Ryder (sort of). And you're looking at a junkyard filled with the likes of Jack Swagger, Big Zeke, Yoshi Tatsu, Rene Dupree, Mike Knox, Elijah Burke, The Dudebusters, DJ Gabriel, Vance Archer, Kevin Thorn, Tyler Reks, and Stevie Richards.
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Post by No Longer a Produceman on Sept 30, 2018 17:33:17 GMT -5
He should be in there too. At the moment, he is carrying Dolph Ziggler in storyline and out, his run on the Indies was outstanding (and he is one of the reasons why the British scene is currently thriving) and based on his current push, it looks like only a matter of time before he wins the Universal Title.
God I hope not
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Post by Doctor No on Sept 30, 2018 17:51:33 GMT -5
Not a fan of theirs, but I'd at least throw the Bellas an honorable mention especially Nikki. They've had a very successful run(with a few breaks) especially Nikki's record setting Divas title run.
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Post by EyeofTyr on Oct 1, 2018 5:30:24 GMT -5
When I think the "Lost Generation", I definitely don't think Daniel Bryan...
Dude's way too new to the WWE to be apart of that group. Heck, I'd say Punk is pushing it too.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2018 16:37:08 GMT -5
Went ahead and added Sheamus as he's earned his spot. Give it up to the Celtic Guardian. Man's went through some transitions but he still remains here. His career reminds me of someone in the music industry who comes out hot, gets the accolades and then after their peak they stay at a mid-tier level for the rest of their career. He's basically Wiz Khalifa.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2018 16:45:39 GMT -5
I always think of Carlito and Masters as THE "Lost Generation" guys. Shelton too. The ones who they wanted to make something of, and then changed their minds for whatever reason. Masters they absolutely blew hot and cold on. Carlito was his own worst enemy. Shelton found his level and despite being and incredible athlete was never going to be a main event guy in that era.
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Post by TGM on Oct 1, 2018 17:12:36 GMT -5
These are the "Lost Generation" guys that first come to my mind.
Mr Kennedy MVP Kenny Dykstra Chris Masters Carlito Lance Cade Elijah Burke Vladimir Kozlov Bobby Lashley Wade Barrett Shelton Benjamin Evan Bourne John Morrison Jack Swagger Ted Dibiase
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