Zone Was Wrong
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Sept 27, 2020 20:26:04 GMT -5
{Spoiler}{Spoiler} Could not see it in the above screencap but with this brightened up pic it looks like Sasha will have blonde hair or could be green either way looks like Sasha about to dawn a new color of hair. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}Wacky colored hair would make sense if she's playing Sabine. I'm still amazed they're running with this "nobody knows what the Jedi are" story. You can try to justify it all you want but it still makes no sense. Do they all think that Wedge blew up the Death Star? I guess it's justified by most of Mandolorian being out in the boonies of the galaxy. Doubt too many Jedi made it out that way and when they did people just thought they were full of crap. Doesn't look like Tatoonie has a rebust education system, so doubt they're learning about republic history, especially if the Empire has wiped out public records of them, or altered them. The outer rim has always been treated as a step child of the governments, part of the reason for the clone wars, that neglect seems to have led to a collapse of general knowledge about a sect of people that have been around for generations. Considering there's a not insignificant percentage of people in America that believe the Holocaust was fake or over exaggerated, doesn't sound like it'd be implausible for this kind of thing to happen after 2 plus decades of misinformation and cover ups.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Sept 27, 2020 20:44:34 GMT -5
I guess it's justified by most of Mandolorian being out in the boonies of the galaxy. Doubt too many Jedi made it out that way and when they did people just thought they were full of crap. Doesn't look like Tatoonie has a rebust education system, so doubt they're learning about republic history, especially if the Empire has wiped out public records of them, or altered them. The outer rim has always been treated as a step child of the governments, part of the reason for the clone wars, that neglect seems to have led to a collapse of general knowledge about a sect of people that have been around for generations. Considering there's a not insignificant percentage of people in America that believe the Holocaust was fake or over exaggerated, doesn't sound like it'd be implausible for this kind of thing to happen after 2 plus decades of misinformation and cover ups. This still doesn't explain why someone like Karga, who would've lived through the Clone Wars, or Kara, who was a Rebellion soldier and fought on Endor, are completely ignorant of Jedi and the Force. I can buy just about everybody else in the show not being particularly knowledgable, but those two in particular are too close to things synonymous with Jedi for me.
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Sept 27, 2020 20:50:02 GMT -5
I guess it's justified by most of Mandolorian being out in the boonies of the galaxy. Doubt too many Jedi made it out that way and when they did people just thought they were full of crap. Doesn't look like Tatoonie has a rebust education system, so doubt they're learning about republic history, especially if the Empire has wiped out public records of them, or altered them. The outer rim has always been treated as a step child of the governments, part of the reason for the clone wars, that neglect seems to have led to a collapse of general knowledge about a sect of people that have been around for generations. Considering there's a not insignificant percentage of people in America that believe the Holocaust was fake or over exaggerated, doesn't sound like it'd be implausible for this kind of thing to happen after 2 plus decades of misinformation and cover ups. This still doesn't explain why someone like Karga, who would've lived through the Clone Wars, or Kara, who was a Rebellion soldier and fought on Endor, are completely ignorant of Jedi and the Force. I can buy just about everybody else in the show not being particularly knowledgable, but those two in particular are too close to things synonymous with Jedi for me. I mean, I could understand if they didn't believe in the Jedi. Took the stories of them as just myths and legends. But having no idea who they are at all seems like way too much of a stretch for a lot of these characters.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Sept 27, 2020 21:08:37 GMT -5
I mean, I could understand if they didn't believe in the Jedi. Took the stories of them as just myths and legends. But having no idea who they are at all seems like way too much of a stretch for a lot of these characters. Exactly. Kuiil I can excuse for not being knowledgable, since he presumably spent most of his life as an Imperial slave and would've been cut off from the wider galaxy. But someone like Kara? The Rebel Alliance's entire goal was restoring the Old Republic and the Jedi, and does anybody believe that anybody in the Rebellion hadn't heard of Luke Skywalker by the time Endor rolls around? Was she in the toilet every time a superior officer said "May the Force be with us"? Even Karga would've had to have heard about Jedi. Assuming he's a similar age to Carl Weathers, he'd have been in his 40s during the Clone Wars. A good chunk of the Clone Wars took place in the Outer Rim, which meant the Jedi would've been there, and we know from the Clone Wars TV show the in-universe news broadcasts talked about them all the time. Hard to believe a man in political office would be completely out of the loop, even less so if he were a high ranking member of the Bounty Hunters' Guild after Order 66, since the Empire put bounties on the heads of the Jedi unaccounted for.
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Post by adamclark52 on Sept 27, 2020 21:22:58 GMT -5
The problem is Order 66 was only twenty or thirty years ago in this galaxy. The Jedi hadn’t been gone long enough to become forgotten or a myth. Even people in our galaxy aren’t that dumb. Well, most of them Looks like we have our first look at Rosario Dawson as Ahsoka. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler} I like the hilt of that saber As much as I love Revan I just got the black series of his saber and the hilt is ridiculous
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Sept 27, 2020 21:39:34 GMT -5
The problem is Order 66 was only twenty or thirty years ago in this galaxy. The Jedi hadn’t been gone long enough to become forgotten or a myth. Even people in our galaxy aren’t that dumb. Well, most of them It's my biggest problem with Disney-era Star Wars. You want to have the Jedi fall into myth and legend? Fine, set your sequels and shows a couple of hundred years after Return of the Jedi. Sure, you can't bring back Harrison Ford (and I'm sure he'd have been fine with that), but you can have Luke and Leia be Force ghosts from the word go, Chewie can still be around given wookies live for centuries, and there's no reason why you can't have Artoo and Threepio still kicking around.
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adamclark52
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Post by adamclark52 on Sept 27, 2020 21:47:39 GMT -5
The problem is Order 66 was only twenty or thirty years ago in this galaxy. The Jedi hadn’t been gone long enough to become forgotten or a myth. Even people in our galaxy aren’t that dumb. Well, most of them It's my biggest problem with Disney-era Star Wars. You want to have the Jedi fall into myth and legend? Fine, set your sequels and shows a couple of hundred years after Return of the Jedi. Sure, you can't bring back Harrison Ford (and I'm sure he'd have been fine with that), but you can have Luke and Leia be Force ghosts from the word go, Chewie can still be around given wookies live for centuries, and there's no reason why you can't have Artoo and Threepio still kicking around. Even in the original trilogy they were barely mentioned but what little mention there was they were talked about like something that was gone for a lot longer than 19 years. Maybe the prequels and Order 66 itself should have been a lot earlier, like a few hundred years. Yoda training Jedi would have still been doable.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Sept 27, 2020 21:55:36 GMT -5
Even in the original trilogy they were barely mentioned but what little mention there was they were talked about like something that was gone for a lot longer than 19 years. Maybe the prequels and Order 66 itself should have been a lot earlier, like a few hundred years. Yoda training Jedi would have still been doable. The timeline really is a little too compressed, isn't it? The Old Republic was around for thousands of years. The Empire came and went in 23 years. We've had dictatorships in the real world stick around longer than that.
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Post by adamclark52 on Sept 27, 2020 22:01:16 GMT -5
Even in the original trilogy they were barely mentioned but what little mention there was they were talked about like something that was gone for a lot longer than 19 years. Maybe the prequels and Order 66 itself should have been a lot earlier, like a few hundred years. Yoda training Jedi would have still been doable. The timeline really is a little too compressed, isn't it? The Old Republic was around for thousands of years. The Empire came and went in 23 years. We've had dictatorships in the real world stick around longer than that. To keep going with that; the Empire isn’t really shown as that bad for the entire 23 years. Solo touched on it but it was ten years in at that point. In the OG trilogy you’re just told they’re bad. And they lose, a lot. There should be more set in the 19 years between episodes III and IV to show how bad life under the Empire really was. Not just telling me. Even in the old EU there were only a handful of books based in that stretch. But as far as I can tell on core worlds like Corusent things just kept going as it was. And on other rim worlds like Tatooine life was always terrible
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Sept 27, 2020 22:24:43 GMT -5
To keep going with that; the Empire isn’t really shown as that bad for the entire 23 years. Solo touched on it but it was ten years in at that point. In the OG trilogy you’re just told they’re bad. And they lose, a lot. There should be more set in the 19 years between episodes III and IV to show how bad life under the Empire really was. Not just telling me. Even in the old EU there were only a handful of books based in that stretch. But as far as I can tell on core worlds like Corusent things just kept going as it was. And on other rim worlds like Tatooine life was always terrible Really the evilness of the Empire rests entirely on the Death Star and Alderaan (at least until the prequels fleshed out Palpatine's motivations), but even that has a shade of grey about it - it's essentially the Star Wars equivalent of dropping The Bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. I'm presuming the Cassian Andor series will explore just how bad life could be under the Empire, because I'm struggling to think of any other reason for that show to exist.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Oct 19, 2020 22:56:03 GMT -5
Ten days, people!
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Oct 24, 2020 22:08:33 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2020 0:26:00 GMT -5
Bumping for the premiere. I'M SO DAMN EXCITED.
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Post by G✇JI☈A on Oct 30, 2020 2:12:26 GMT -5
Episode 1 is live !
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Oct 30, 2020 3:12:56 GMT -5
{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}Holy shit!
Did they just confirm that Boba Fett is alive? That was Jango's actor at the end.
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Post by adamclark52 on Oct 30, 2020 3:23:14 GMT -5
{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}Holy shit!
Did they just confirm that Boba Fett is alive? That was Jango's actor at the end. {Spoiler}the Mandalorian meets THE Mandalorian?
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Post by Chiral on Oct 30, 2020 3:24:19 GMT -5
me at the end there Also {Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}I'm in the middle of a KOTOR replay so I LOVED the Krayt Dragon plot.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Oct 30, 2020 3:46:16 GMT -5
{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}Holy shit!
Did they just confirm that Boba Fett is alive? That was Jango's actor at the end. {Spoiler}It's pretty much been the worst-kept secret ever since they cast Temuera Morrison. There was always a chance that he could've been playing one of the Clone Troopers, but in the context of the episode? It's gotta be Boba.
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Post by Chiral on Oct 30, 2020 3:47:33 GMT -5
{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}Holy shit!
Did they just confirm that Boba Fett is alive? That was Jango's actor at the end. {Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}Rewatching it and you can hear his spurs jingle just like Boba's!! So it's about confirmed Boba was the one that walked up to Fennec Shand last season
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Post by G✇JI☈A on Oct 30, 2020 3:57:21 GMT -5
{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}Holy shit!
Did they just confirm that Boba Fett is alive? That was Jango's actor at the end. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}It's pretty much been the worst-kept secret ever since they cast Temuera Morrison. There was always a chance that he could've been playing one of the Clone Troopers, but in the context of the episode? It's gotta be Boba. {Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}Plus any surviving clone would be like a senior citizen by this point. Due to their fast ageing.
I think it’s now canon that the old bearded Rebel seen briefly in “Return of the Jedi” (just after Han does the tap shoulder trick) is Rex a reformed Clone Trooper seen in The Clone Wars and Rebels animated series.
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