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Post by Joe Neglia on Oct 6, 2018 14:17:12 GMT -5
No, nobody really believes he has anything to do with Biggie or Pac's murder at this point. Their deaths had nothing to do with music or each other, just gang shit. TONS of people still believe he and/or Combs were involved with one or both.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Oct 6, 2018 15:20:19 GMT -5
I have nothing to add other than it's always bugged me that his name looks like it should be pronounced "Sooj".
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Post by chazraps on Oct 6, 2018 16:05:01 GMT -5
No, nobody really believes he has anything to do with Biggie or Pac's murder at this point. Their deaths had nothing to do with music or each other, just gang shit. TONS of people still believe he and/or Combs were involved with one or both. No they don't. Nobody who actually has looked into the matter outside un-researched internet rumors anyway. This book pretty much definitively put it all to rest: www.amazon.com/Original-Gangstas-Tupac-Shakur-Eazy/dp/0316344850
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Post by Joe Neglia on Oct 6, 2018 17:26:13 GMT -5
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Oct 6, 2018 17:59:30 GMT -5
No, nobody really believes he has anything to do with Biggie or Pac's murder at this point. Their deaths had nothing to do with music or each other, just gang shit. TONS of people still believe he and/or Combs were involved with one or both. Yea still a ton of rumors that Suge had Biggie knocked off and Diddy played a hand in it
Meanwhile we know (or at least we think we do) that Pac was a gang hit which blended with the East vs Coast rap feud since they were representing colors from each side
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Post by chazraps on Oct 6, 2018 19:43:55 GMT -5
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Post by chazraps on Oct 6, 2018 19:45:16 GMT -5
TONS of people still believe he and/or Combs were involved with one or both. Yea still a ton of rumors that Suge had Biggie knocked off and Diddy played a hand in it
Meanwhile we know (or at least we think we do) that Pac was a gang hit which blended with the East vs Coast rap feud since they were representing colors from each side
None of those Suge/Diddy rumors about Biggie are credible and don't make sense in the grand scheme of the business.
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Post by zrowsdower on Oct 6, 2018 19:53:19 GMT -5
I think I'll send him a card...like one that says "hang in there" with a kitten dangling from a tree
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Post by Joe Neglia on Oct 6, 2018 20:15:03 GMT -5
Yea still a ton of rumors that Suge had Biggie knocked off and Diddy played a hand in it
Meanwhile we know (or at least we think we do) that Pac was a gang hit which blended with the East vs Coast rap feud since they were representing colors from each side
None of those Suge/Diddy rumors about Biggie are credible and don't make sense in the grand scheme of the business. How could there be rumors if "nobody" believes it anymore? You can attack rumors for not being "credible" and you can state your own person opinion that they don't make sense, and you can point to a hundred different books, but at the end of the day, you can't say that "nobody" believes it anymore because there are clearly people out there that still believe it.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Oct 6, 2018 20:17:34 GMT -5
Yea still a ton of rumors that Suge had Biggie knocked off and Diddy played a hand in it
Meanwhile we know (or at least we think we do) that Pac was a gang hit which blended with the East vs Coast rap feud since they were representing colors from each side
None of those Suge/Diddy rumors about Biggie are credible and don't make sense in the grand scheme of the business. A rumor can be whatever it is as long as people believe it
Also while I don't believe it you still have people who will buy into the theory that Diddy wanted Biggie out the way to get full control of Bad Boy and look how long he coasted on Biggie sympathy to enhance his own career
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Post by chazraps on Oct 6, 2018 20:26:28 GMT -5
None of those Suge/Diddy rumors about Biggie are credible and don't make sense in the grand scheme of the business. A rumor can be whatever it is as long as people believe it Also while I don't believe it you still have people who will buy into the theory that Diddy wanted Biggie out the way to get full control of Bad Boy and look how long he coasted on Biggie sympathy to enhance his own career
But ultimately lost millions with the death of his most successful flagship artist. Biggie's death was a net-negative for Diddy and Bad Boy. People who believe it are the flat earthers of the hip-hop world.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2018 20:27:40 GMT -5
None of those Suge/Diddy rumors about Biggie are credible and don't make sense in the grand scheme of the business. A rumor can be whatever it is as long as people believe it Also while I don't believe it you still have people who will buy into the theory that Diddy wanted Biggie out the way to get full control of Bad Boy and look how long he coasted on Biggie sympathy to enhance his own career
And that is a big reason why I personally believe Diddy had a hand in atleast Biggies demise because in something like this you always look at the person who benefits the most off such a death and in this case no one benefited more or even at all than Diddy did.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Oct 6, 2018 20:30:33 GMT -5
A rumor can be whatever it is as long as people believe it Also while I don't believe it you still have people who will buy into the theory that Diddy wanted Biggie out the way to get full control of Bad Boy and look how long he coasted on Biggie sympathy to enhance his own career
But ultimately lost millions with the death of his most successful flagship artist. Biggie's death was a net-negative for Diddy and Bad Boy. People who believe it are the flat earthers of the hip-hop world. Bad Boy didn't really start profits again until they get young talent in like 04-05
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Oct 6, 2018 20:34:13 GMT -5
A rumor can be whatever it is as long as people believe it Also while I don't believe it you still have people who will buy into the theory that Diddy wanted Biggie out the way to get full control of Bad Boy and look how long he coasted on Biggie sympathy to enhance his own career
And that is a big reason why I personally believe Diddy had a hand in atleast Biggies demise because in something like this you always look at the person who benefits the most off such a death and in this case no one benefited more or even at all than Diddy did. In terms of personal benefit yeah Diddy as a man and just brand in his own name has blown way up
Now, that's not to say he couldn't have did it on his own because he's talented but being the guy of the brand and having no one be able tell you shit is a big thing. However, flip side is who's to say whoever he partnered up with wouldn't have tried to take him out to or snitch at some point. Just crazy all around
Hell, despite their early relationship Suge still has no problem Dre tried to have him killed
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Post by Welfare Willis on Oct 6, 2018 22:56:28 GMT -5
But who will shake Vanilla Ice over a ledge by his knees now?
Oh, right! Life.
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