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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Oct 14, 2018 16:27:55 GMT -5
Yeah, since the last Saudi show they had a falling out with Canada so no Canadian passports are allowed in the country. So, Brock... did he renounce his US citizenship when he moved to Saskatchewan? Brock dined with the royal family last time, so it doesn't matter if he has dual citizenship or not, they'll make an exception for him regardless of the political squabble.
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Post by "Magic" Mark Hurr on Oct 14, 2018 16:29:32 GMT -5
Man, I got in some sort of a Twitter beef with some rando who was whining about why WWE has to take away the show because of an unrelated incident. If government officials are suggesting you should, I think they should. It'd spare us from seeing old farts until WrestleMania. The fact government officials have come together to say are "yeah yall gotta stop this shit" is something to take note of. It's always feit like they do business in the, "let's volutarilly get in too deep so it seems like we don't have a choice but to make a f***ed up decision." way. I know when doing business on this level there is a tendancy, more often than not, to take very high risk. But to compromise themselves like this is beyond disgusting. It's not like they are above playing with people's lives.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2018 16:32:45 GMT -5
Based on their trolls, I think I discovered why Vince might feel a kinship with Saudi Arabia: Vince: "Roman! I've got a new insult for you to use!" Roman: "Come on man, don't make me call people mcfarts" Vince: "Hahaaaa!" Roman: "What?" Vince: "You said Mcfart!" *Vince starts making armpit fart sounds with his hand under his armpit* Vince: "Also do that when you say it!" Roman: "Aw man..."
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Post by Spider2024 on Oct 14, 2018 16:35:51 GMT -5
Anyone else remember when the most ridiculous thing about this show was the World Cup comprised entirely of people born in the USA I remember fondly the care-free days of the Liv/Brie incident.
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Post by JoDaNa1281 on Oct 14, 2018 16:44:48 GMT -5
Apparently Raw Monday will have Rollins/McIntyre and Ambrose/Ziggler and the winner of those matches will be headed to Crown Jewel and compete for the cup. Surely Ziggler is losing, not sure where the Rollins/McIntyre thing is headed but I'm guessing Ziggler interferes giving Rollins the win getting up Ambrose/Rollins and Ambrose losing to help set up his heel turn. But either way man, out of all the stuff WWE's done this is the one thing that disgusts me the most. All the hype from the event has been sucked out and now I'm like "shit, nah" towards it. I could see Drew winning, so they can say, "See, a non-American guy's in the tournament...totally a World Cup!"
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2018 16:53:17 GMT -5
Hell, you can tell these wrestles don't wanna go by their comments but more than that you can tell most in the company want nothing to do with it. Charlotte, someone who wasn't going in general, was just asked about her opinion towards it. She straight up said "we have Evolution to think about so I'm not thinking about that, I'm thinking about Evolution, the boys travel overseas." Just straight up dodging all questions. It must f***ing suck to be a guy going to that ppv. WWE stays putting their wrestlers in the worst spots. It's like the Hogan situation earlier this year, but on a global/political scale. This company is shit.
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Post by Chainsaw on Oct 14, 2018 16:56:51 GMT -5
The entire WWE roster: "Vince, Hunter, we have some real reservations about continuing this contract with the Saudis, and we're worried both ethically and for our own personal safety. Won't you reconsider this?" Vince: "Well, I'll certainly give it some thought. Let me run it by Roman real quick. Roman?" Roman, barely looking up from his phone: "Uh, yeah, I'll go to Iraq, whatever you say, Vince." Vince: "Well, you heard the man, everyone on the plane!"
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Post by chazraps on Oct 14, 2018 17:17:34 GMT -5
Yeah, since the last Saudi show they had a falling out with Canada so no Canadian passports are allowed in the country. So, Brock... did he renounce his US citizenship when he moved to Saskatchewan? I don't think we got proof of that beyond him holding a Canadian flag at UFC, so there's a good chance he's still an American citizen.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Oct 14, 2018 17:20:05 GMT -5
I'm just going to say, considering how most people are looking at this, and how Vince refuses to extricate himself from the "WWE Bubble", I'm not 100% sure that Vince understands the Geo-Social ramifications this is engendering in a lot of peoples' eyes.
On the other hand, if he DOES know, I wonder just how steep the penalties for him backing out on that 10 year contract actually are...
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Post by Doctor No on Oct 14, 2018 17:23:44 GMT -5
I wonder if they won't change on the event unless Trump makes a definitive move, since not staying in line with the president could put Linda in a bad position.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Oct 14, 2018 17:25:24 GMT -5
I wonder if they won't change on the event unless Trump makes a definitive move, since not staying in line with the president could put Linda in a bad position. Assuming that the contract was signed under Saudi law, Vince could possibly be in much deeper shit than Linda. Ultimately, I don't think we're going to find out the terms of that contract, though.
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Post by Doctor No on Oct 14, 2018 17:26:23 GMT -5
I wonder if they won't change on the event unless Trump makes a definitive move, since not staying in line with the president could put Linda in a bad position. Assuming that the contract was signed under Saudi law, Vince could possibly be in much deeper shit than Linda. Ultimately, I don't think we're going to find out the terms of that contract, though. Meh..what's the worst that could....
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2018 17:35:37 GMT -5
Canadians on the roster must feel like they're dodging a bullet here. None of the wrestlers who are Canadian citizens can go? So that's who? Zayn and Owens injured (and the former unwelcome anyway due to Syrian parents), Roode and Breeze unlikely to be booked, Jericho has US citizenship through one of his parents if he's free. Jinder is the one who'd be relieved (or annoyed if he was banking on the payday) were there no problems between the nations he'd have probably been booked as there's a large south Asian diaspora over there.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Oct 14, 2018 17:46:54 GMT -5
None of the wrestlers who are Canadian citizens can go? So that's who? Zayn and Owens injured (and the former unwelcome anyway due to Syrian parents), Roode and Breeze unlikely to be booked, Jericho has US citizenship through one of his parents if he's free. Jinder is the one who'd be relieved (or annoyed if he was banking on the payday) were there no problems between the nations he'd have probably been booked as there's a large south Asian diaspora over there. I’m assuming Dillinger would also count as a Canadian citizen.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2018 17:48:19 GMT -5
I don’t feel bad for the McMahon’s or the WWE at all here, I mean, they willingly entered into an agreement to run propaganda worldwide for a sketchy country so it’s hard to feel sympathy there. I do however feel bad for the talent as they’re just trying to do their job and make money to support their families. I’m sure that some of them are asking themselves if it’s worth it, and wonder whether this will be a tipping point for some of the people that maybe want more freedom than the WWE currently offers.
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Post by Fade on Oct 14, 2018 17:50:21 GMT -5
I'm just going to say, considering how most people are looking at this, and how Vince refuses to extricate himself from the "WWE Bubble", I'm not 100% sure that Vince understands the Geo-Social ramifications this is engendering in a lot of peoples' eyes. On the other hand, if he DOES know, I wonder just how steep the penalties for him backing out on that 10 year contract actually are... I absolutely believe Vince knows and understands the gravity of the situation. But by the mans own word, he's got a knack to compartmentalize shit. And that's what he's doing trying to covertly make it to the finish line ($$$).
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Post by MAGGLE on Oct 14, 2018 17:55:02 GMT -5
Just imagine if this catches twitter outrage and it somehow leads to Vince retiring. That would be the craziest shit of all time. I mean people needed to resign for way less this year
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Oct 14, 2018 17:57:45 GMT -5
I'm just going to say, considering how most people are looking at this, and how Vince refuses to extricate himself from the "WWE Bubble", I'm not 100% sure that Vince understands the Geo-Social ramifications this is engendering in a lot of peoples' eyes. On the other hand, if he DOES know, I wonder just how steep the penalties for him backing out on that 10 year contract actually are... I absolutely believe Vince knows and understands the gravity of the situation. But by the mans own word, he's got a knack to compartmentalize shit. And that's what he's doing trying to covertly make it to the finish line ($$$). I have reasons for believing otherwise, but it's against the rules to say them.
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Oct 14, 2018 18:15:08 GMT -5
Just imagine if this catches twitter outrage and it somehow leads to Vince retiring. That would be the craziest shit of all time. I mean people needed to resign for way less this year Vince seems like a guy too stubborn to resign because Twitter yelled at him too loudly.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Oct 14, 2018 18:21:39 GMT -5
Just imagine if this catches twitter outrage and it somehow leads to Vince retiring. That would be the craziest shit of all time. I mean people needed to resign for way less this year Vince seems like a guy too stubborn to resign because Twitter yelled at him too loudly. Linda makes the stakes a lot higher than that.
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