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Post by Chainsaw on Oct 20, 2018 20:19:57 GMT -5
Considering how much of a mark for America the owner of WWE is, one would think that the death of an American citizen orchestrated by a ruling government that his company has partnered with directly for special events would be enough to renege the deal. I don't think Khashoggi was an American citizen, please correct me if I'm wrong. No doubt they killed Khashoggi in brutal fashion and probably cut him into many pieces under orders from Bin Salman. Killing people who disagree with the Saudi government is what they do. They are a horrible country in pretty much every way. Do a little research on them and you'll be sick. With that said, money rules all and they have tons of it. That's why Vince hasn't ripped up the Saudi contract and while our government has been slow to condemn them for this killing (among other reasons). You are correct, I mistakenly believed that Khashoggi was an official US citizen, but he was here on an "O" Visa (a visa also known as an Genius visa, issued to gifted people of extraordinary talent that offers residence for up to three years), he has 3 children who are US citizens, and he was in the process of making permanent residence in the US. And yes, money may be the overruling factor, but that doesn't mean we have to like it and accept it.
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chazraps
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Post by chazraps on Oct 20, 2018 20:26:26 GMT -5
Considering how much of a mark for America the owner of WWE is, one would think that the death of an American citizen orchestrated by a ruling government that his company has partnered with directly for special events would be enough to renege the deal. I don't think Khashoggi was an American citizen, please correct me if I'm wrong. No doubt they killed Khashoggi in brutal fashion and probably cut him into many pieces under orders from Bin Salman. Killing people who disagree with the Saudi government is what they do. They are a horrible country in pretty much every way. Do a little research on them and you'll be sick. With that said, money rules all and they have tons of it. That's why Vince hasn't ripped up the Saudi contract and while our government has been slow to condemn them for this killing (among other reasons). Khashoggi was an American resident who was approved for citizenship, fully processed and was on the path to getting it finalized. American resident is just being super-technical, had this happened a few weeks later he would have officially been American citizen, but at the time of his death he basically was.
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Post by Wolf Hawkfield no1 NZ poster on Oct 20, 2018 20:47:35 GMT -5
I'm honestly still laughing at people who seriously thought that the WWE running events in Saudi Arabia was going to help start social change over there.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Oct 20, 2018 21:53:43 GMT -5
I'm honestly still laughing at people who seriously thought that the WWE running events in Saudi Arabia was going to help start social change over here. I dont think I've ever read anything more eye rolling.
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hassanchop
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Post by hassanchop on Oct 20, 2018 22:52:18 GMT -5
I'm honestly still laughing at people who seriously thought that the WWE running events in Saudi Arabia was going to help start social change over there. McMahon is probably still a mark to the ending of Rocky IV
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chrom
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Post by chrom on Oct 21, 2018 10:32:28 GMT -5
Unless the guy could transform into The Hulk, I don't see how 18 vs 1 is a fight
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Post by Joe Neglia on Oct 21, 2018 12:14:56 GMT -5
Well, we're in a bit of a pickle here, aren't we? Given the highly sensitive political nature of this situation, I'm locking this thread down for the time being until I can figure out how to proceed.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Oct 21, 2018 22:39:11 GMT -5
Okay, here's what I've decided to do in regards to what's going on with this show and the delicate situation it's part of:
The thread will remain locked until the day of the show. No other threads regarding the show will be started. Any news updates regarding the show (cancellation, change of location, additional matches, etc) before then will be posted to this thread by a moderator. There will simply be no discussion on here regarding it otherwise until the show. When that time comes, the thread will be unlocked long enough for the actual show, and regular, non-political discussion regarding it will be allowed. When the show ends, we will likely lock it again.
IF the location is reworked to some other country, that will obviously change how we are handling this. For now though, please be patient with us and please be understanding. This is not a situation we ever figured would be a thing, and we are going to do the best we can to proceed with it while still upholding our rules.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Oct 23, 2018 0:35:07 GMT -5
Due to Roman Reigns taking indefinite leave to deal with serious health issues, the Universal Championship has been made vacant and will be fought for in a singles match between the two top contenders, Braun Strowman and Brock Lesnar.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Oct 25, 2018 8:43:08 GMT -5
The latest WWE Quarterly report confirms that Crown Jewel is not only still going, it’ll still happen in Saudi Arabia.
The statement didn’t say anything about the 10 year contract but for the moment, the show’s still happening.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Oct 25, 2018 13:27:13 GMT -5
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Post by Error on Oct 30, 2018 9:10:59 GMT -5
Talent spoilers: {Spoiler} John Cena was written of the show Monday and replaced by Bobby Lashley. PWInsider has confirmed the rumor that Bryan will not be making the trip either.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Oct 30, 2018 9:22:03 GMT -5
Talent spoilers: {Spoiler}{Spoiler} John Cena was written of the show Monday and replaced by Bobby Lashley. PWInsider has confirmed the rumor that Bryan will not be making the trip either. {Spoiler}I can imagine AJ/Miz being the match they replace it with by screw job of some kind.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Oct 30, 2018 17:29:37 GMT -5
According to Pro Wrestling Sheet, Renee Young’s been given the proper clearance to be a part of the commentary team for the show.
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Post by Error on Oct 30, 2018 20:39:37 GMT -5
With Bryan's refusal to go to the KSA, WWE had the match between Bryan and AJ on SDL. With that the WWE Title match at Crown Jewel is now AJ Styles vs. Samoa Joe.
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Post by Error on Oct 31, 2018 16:54:26 GMT -5
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Nov 1, 2018 12:34:38 GMT -5
Seriously? So they decided to steer INTO the skid of negative public opinion.
Bold move Cotton.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Nov 1, 2018 16:38:34 GMT -5
Late addition to the card for the pre-show, Nakamura v Rusev for the US belt.
Hm... Go figure. Your World Cup brackets have all Americans in them and your US belt is being fought for by a Japanese man and a Bulgarian man.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Nov 2, 2018 10:00:51 GMT -5
All right, the pre-show is about to start for what may be the most bizarre show in the history of this bizarre industry, so we will be unlocking the thread momentarily.
We re-iterate Madison’s comments... NO COMMENTING ON ANY OF THE POLITICAL ASPECTS SURROUNDING THIS SHOW. Please try and keep discussion limited to the wrestling content of the ongoing wrestling show. Moderators will be watching this thread closely, and we will be warning people if necessary.
Thanks for your understanding.
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Post by thetower52 on Nov 2, 2018 10:01:59 GMT -5
Holy f***ing green room batman
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