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Post by jagilki on Nov 7, 2018 12:23:55 GMT -5
no rxcuse, just heads up. net went win my last night / this morning. haven't been able to check up. at work atm. if net is sorted when home will more detail.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2018 13:06:54 GMT -5
So, the obvious suspects are any of us who voted for Other Kevin. I'm obviously not going to suspect myself, and Brad is, again, almost certainly Town. That leaves jag, Daime, Tyger, and Joker. Meanwhile, BB has said next to nothing and I think needs to say something simply to not get modkilled, lodi's absence is understandable, skull, again, I think is Town, and I really don't have much of anything on you yet. I believe my actions on Day 1 exonerate me from being among the Devils that assail Town. We're I among their fold, I would not be so open with my desire for you to help procure the lynch of the poor Other Kevin. I would perhaps lure you out and not pressure you with a call of arms against you from Town. Moreover, I would wait until late in the Day to cast my vote in order to appear reluctant to do so. At this early point in Day 2, I feel there may be a connection between the Good Townsmen Brad and Daime. With all due respect, I do not feel Brad's innocence to be completely assured to the extent where he should be overlooked. Both of those fellows appear to have been awaiting for someone, perhaps each other.
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Post by Brandon Walsh is Insane. on Nov 7, 2018 23:03:44 GMT -5
So this day is pretty slow... I’m thinking I make a move now and figure out later. VOTE: GUSFOS: BradIf I’m wrong on Brad, jag is my back up scum read
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2018 23:11:56 GMT -5
Vote: Gus Richlen Monsieur Richlen escaped the hangman's noose on Day 1 but his concern for his own self-preservation seemed stronger than his commitment to Town. I do believe he will stay to the shadows unless summoned to the light.
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Post by Gus Richlen: Ruffian on Nov 8, 2018 2:15:04 GMT -5
Vote: Gus RichlenMonsieur Richlen escaped the hangman's noose on Day 1 but his concern for his own self-preservation seemed stronger than his commitment to Town. I do believe he will stay to the shadows unless summoned to the light. So I'm not allowed to do both. That means it's open season on everyone, you included. When faced with a choice, literally nobody in this game is going to willingly let themselves get lynched for any reason. But the fact that the two of you almost instantly decided that I have to go is pretty damn suspicious and I already have my answers. FOS: Bear. Meat.The fact that you're going right for me without giving any time to see how anything else goes for the next couple of (actual) days smells very off. And I have an easy way to prove I'm Town: whichever of you is Police or any other investigative role, check me this coming Night Phase. If I come back scum then have at me. If not, then stop wasting time on innocent people and go after the real scum.
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Post by Jonathan Michaels on Nov 8, 2018 5:06:37 GMT -5
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Post by Joker on Nov 8, 2018 5:07:52 GMT -5
I can't really make a judgement if I don't see opinions or discussion from: Big Bad Brad - Your thoughts on the lynch vote? Jonathan Michaels - Welcome to the game, how do you see the situation as a fresh pair of eyes? Skull0mancer - So you go all out on Gus being scum, but the town goes with another opinion which is wrong so now you decide to go quiet? @dante - Have you had a chance to read the latest developments? lodirulz - Your thoughts, what questions were yoiu thinking of asking on the first day?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2018 15:31:40 GMT -5
Vote: Gus RichlenMonsieur Richlen escaped the hangman's noose on Day 1 but his concern for his own self-preservation seemed stronger than his commitment to Town. I do believe he will stay to the shadows unless summoned to the light. So I'm not allowed to do both. That means it's open season on everyone, you included. When faced with a choice, literally nobody in this game is going to willingly let themselves get lynched for any reason. But the fact that the two of you almost instantly decided that I have to go is pretty damn suspicious and I already have my answers. FOS: Bear. Meat.The fact that you're going right for me without giving any time to see how anything else goes for the next couple of (actual) days smells very off. And I have an easy way to prove I'm Town: whichever of you is Police or any other investigative role, check me this coming Night Phase. If I come back scum then have at me. If not, then stop wasting time on innocent people and go after the real scum. Do not play the investigation gambit. You are asking a member of Town to reveal themself perilous situation in the shadows, leaving them vulnerable to Brutes of all affiliations. Moreover, you are aware that Mafia has methods to shroud their detestable selves. When seeking to protect your own head, why did you not insist on lynching Daime? Your argument was not that you felt lynching the Other Kevin would bring villains to light, but merely that if you did so, the attention would be diverted from you. Had you resisted, the Lynch may very well have not been fulfilled and you could then have spinned it as being unsure about his guilt. No one wants to be lynched and yet you seemed especially concerned about your own safety.
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Post by Brandon Walsh is Insane. on Nov 8, 2018 16:07:52 GMT -5
Vote: Gus RichlenMonsieur Richlen escaped the hangman's noose on Day 1 but his concern for his own self-preservation seemed stronger than his commitment to Town. I do believe he will stay to the shadows unless summoned to the light. So I'm not allowed to do both. That means it's open season on everyone, you included. When faced with a choice, literally nobody in this game is going to willingly let themselves get lynched for any reason. But the fact that the two of you almost instantly decided that I have to go is pretty damn suspicious and I already have my answers. FOS: Bear. Meat.The fact that you're going right for me without giving any time to see how anything else goes for the next couple of (actual) days smells very off. And I have an easy way to prove I'm Town: whichever of you is Police or any other investigative role, check me this coming Night Phase. If I come back scum then have at me. If not, then stop wasting time on innocent people and go after the real scum. I've played games before where if scum is investigated, the person doing the investigating is instantly killed. And weird, you did the instant FOS response. I think it'll take 5 votes to lynch this day period, and unless you can give me an alternative to look at, you're getting my push to lynch this day phase again.
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Post by Gus Richlen: Ruffian on Nov 8, 2018 16:19:28 GMT -5
So I'm not allowed to do both. That means it's open season on everyone, you included. When faced with a choice, literally nobody in this game is going to willingly let themselves get lynched for any reason. But the fact that the two of you almost instantly decided that I have to go is pretty damn suspicious and I already have my answers. FOS: Bear. Meat.The fact that you're going right for me without giving any time to see how anything else goes for the next couple of (actual) days smells very off. And I have an easy way to prove I'm Town: whichever of you is Police or any other investigative role, check me this coming Night Phase. If I come back scum then have at me. If not, then stop wasting time on innocent people and go after the real scum. I've played games before where if scum is investigated, the person doing the investigating is instantly killed. And weird, you did the instant FOS response. I think it'll take 5 votes to lynch this day period, and unless you can give me an alternative to look at, you're getting my push to lynch this day phase again. Are you even willing to look at anyone else? Because your vote sounded unmovable from the outset and nothing you said prior indicated that you were interested in voting against anyone else. And I don't believe in throwing guaranteed Town under the bus, which you also seem to want. Brad is absolutely Town, and I feel more confident that Daime is as well. Only people I suspect are you and Tyger and I know you two won't go after each other. Perhaps there's a very ugly reason why.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2018 16:31:16 GMT -5
I am not fearful of the gallows. Lynch me if you feel that it is the correct maneuver. You will see how I benefit Town if you do so. Town will then question who has benefited Town more.
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Post by Brandon Walsh is Insane. on Nov 8, 2018 16:38:58 GMT -5
I've played games before where if scum is investigated, the person doing the investigating is instantly killed. And weird, you did the instant FOS response. I think it'll take 5 votes to lynch this day period, and unless you can give me an alternative to look at, you're getting my push to lynch this day phase again. Are you even willing to look at anyone else? Because your vote sounded unmovable from the outset and nothing you said prior indicated that you were interested in voting against anyone else. And I don't believe in throwing guaranteed Town under the bus, which you also seem to want. Brad is absolutely Town, and I feel more confident that Daime is as well. Only people I suspect are you and Tyger and I know you two won't go after each other. Perhaps there's a very ugly reason why. Why do you suspect Tyger? Why wouldn't I go after Tyger if he's being scummy? Nothing he has done has stood out to me yet, but if there's a case against him, I'm open-minded.
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Post by Jonathan Michaels on Nov 8, 2018 16:59:23 GMT -5
I can't really make a judgement if I don't see opinions or discussion from: Big Bad Brad - Your thoughts on the lynch vote? Jonathan Michaels - Welcome to the game, how do you see the situation as a fresh pair of eyes? Skull0mancer - So you go all out on Gus being scum, but the town goes with another opinion which is wrong so now you decide to go quiet? @dante - Have you had a chance to read the latest developments? lodirulz - Your thoughts, what questions were yoiu thinking of asking on the first day? I am studying the thread and will have something after I get off work
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2018 17:28:48 GMT -5
I have caught up now as well. I have a strong feeling that either Gus or Bear.Meat are scum. As for Gus Richlen: Ruffian I feel that by going after me or Kevin, He would get a safe lynch off on a town member. As for Brandon Walsh is Insane. No real reason. It's like Skull said day 1, staying back, poking at other people to keep attention off himself. I don't feel like having a heated debate as of yet. I do appreciate Gus backing off me but that might be just cover to help his case knowing I am a townie now. I will wait to vote until some other people step up and give their thoughts on their reads.
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Post by Gus Richlen: Ruffian on Nov 8, 2018 20:19:09 GMT -5
Are you even willing to look at anyone else? Because your vote sounded unmovable from the outset and nothing you said prior indicated that you were interested in voting against anyone else. And I don't believe in throwing guaranteed Town under the bus, which you also seem to want. Brad is absolutely Town, and I feel more confident that Daime is as well. Only people I suspect are you and Tyger and I know you two won't go after each other. Perhaps there's a very ugly reason why. Why do you suspect Tyger? Why wouldn't I go after Tyger if he's being scummy? Nothing he has done has stood out to me yet, but if there's a case against him, I'm open-minded. For the same reason I suspect you: Because there was a quick vote with little intent of pursuing anyone else. Now, maybe it's coincidence the first time something like this happens (Daime and Other Kevin) but twice? This one sets off more than a few red flags in my view. BUT, in the interest of fairness, and excluding lodi (since there's no reason to doubt his reasons for why he was mostly absent) and Jono (who just joined as a fill-in and thus it would be unfair to go after him right away with literally nothing to go on), there are reasons to suspect everyone else playing: jag: Voted for Other Kevin, did not contribute as much Brad: Voted for Other Kevin, opened this day by asking about roles Joker: Voted for Other Kevin skull: Went HARD after me and was even insisting that everyone HAD to vote for me (Insisting that one person MUST go is pretty suspicious in its own right) but then decides to back out of th picture completely, which leads me to wonder if my Town read on him was wrong and if Joker may be on to something Daime: Voted for Other Kevin Basically there are reasons to vote against almost all of us, myself included. Doesn't mean that everyone is scum, including the obvious ones. I'm willing to look at all options even if I feel those options are wrong, but I'm keeping the FOS on you until something else pops up. Doesn't mean I'm going to end up voting for you outright.
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Post by Jonathan Michaels on Nov 9, 2018 3:08:33 GMT -5
I have caught up now as well. I have a strong feeling that either Gus or Bear.Meat are scum. As for Gus Richlen: Ruffian I feel that by going after me or Kevin, He would get a safe lynch off on a town member. As for Brandon Walsh is Insane. No real reason. It's like Skull said day 1, staying back, poking at other people to keep attention off himself. I don't feel like having a heated debate as of yet. I do appreciate Gus backing off me but that might be just cover to help his case knowing I am a townie now. I will wait to vote until some other people step up and give their thoughts on their reads. When you say he now knows you are a townie, that indicates he didn’t know that before, but if he was scum, he would know you were town already, therefore by backing off of you, that would indicate him as town, no!
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Post by Jonathan Michaels on Nov 9, 2018 3:15:36 GMT -5
I’ll go ahead and FOS: Skull
Suddenly throwing up your hands and hiding back means even if he’s town, he’s holding us back.
If he’s scum, then yay, obvs, if he’s not, we don’t lose that much.
But I don’t want to start a vote pile, so let’s see what’s up.
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Post by lodirulz on Nov 9, 2018 14:08:12 GMT -5
Alright, so here is what I would like to try with everyone: We know the people who voted to lynch Kevin.
'Chelnov' Joker , Black Tyger Squadron , Gus Richlen + Mileena , jagilki , The Brad , Old School Daime.
To every remaining player, myself included, I'll give my thoughts after work, what is your take on these 6 at the moment? Do you trust them, are your suspicious of them, are you in between/don't know yet, etc. For those on the list, you can just give your opinions on the other five.
And then out of that list, who would you like to know more about?
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Post by Skull0mancer on Nov 9, 2018 21:16:40 GMT -5
Are we lynching Scum this time?
Vote: Gus Richlen + Mileena
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Post by Skull0mancer on Nov 9, 2018 21:17:31 GMT -5
Except I didn't start the ball rolling on Other Kevin and it was either I voted for him or I was done because of how militant skull had gotten in calling for my head. Wanting to lynch a scummy player for playing like Scum doesn't make me militant. It makes me normal, because that's what Town is supposed to do.
Yawn. Same old song and dance from Scum-Gus. Discredit me hard enough and maybe people will listen to you eventually. Skull0mancer - So you go all out on Gus being scum, but the town goes with another opinion which is wrong so now you decide to go quiet? That's not why I've lost interest in the game. Don't try to needlessly antagonize me. It's not going to work. Suddenly throwing up your hands and hiding back means even if he’s town, he’s holding us back. Preemptively trying to justify a lynch on Town, I see.
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