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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Nov 28, 2018 15:46:32 GMT -5
Man, such a great thread. With the way the current product is, I almost forgot how great it was to see the heels get their comeuppance. Real shit. I'm so tired of cool heels and heat for the sake of heat with no real payoff. f***'s sake, I wanna see heroes get the W! That's why I watch fiction, to see the good guy win in the end. Wrestling was such a perfect outlet for this and somehow, someway, the game got f***ed up. I get what you’re saying, but wouldn’t the faces just winning all the time for the sake of winning end up getting very hollow? I’d want them to win as the conclusion of a satisfying story arc, and that’s the key issue, I think. The company/fan relationship has become so toxic through all the unsatisfying everything that, and I really can’t blame anyone for this in all honesty, nobody is waiting for the story arc to play out before they cast final judgment.
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Post by warriorthug4edge on Nov 28, 2018 16:25:17 GMT -5
Of all people, Linda McMahon gets one...
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Nov 28, 2018 17:13:01 GMT -5
Of all people, Linda McMahon gets one... God, look how invested that crowd are inn Linda f'n McMahon.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Nov 28, 2018 17:14:18 GMT -5
Real shit. I'm so tired of cool heels and heat for the sake of heat with no real payoff. f***'s sake, I wanna see heroes get the W! That's why I watch fiction, to see the good guy win in the end. Wrestling was such a perfect outlet for this and somehow, someway, the game got f***ed up. I get what you’re saying, but wouldn’t the faces just winning all the time for the sake of winning end up getting very hollow? I’d want them to win as the conclusion of a satisfying story arc, and that’s the key issue, I think. The company/fan relationship has become so toxic through all the unsatisfying everything that, and I really can’t blame anyone for this in all honesty, nobody is waiting for the story arc to play out before they cast final judgment. Yeah, the biggest problem is the WWE tends to focus too heavily on one side or the other... one of the problems with Roman was that he would stand tall the entire feud and not have to face any kinda challenge. on the other hand if the Heels constantly win it ends up feeling pointless and makes the faces look like a bunch of goofs.
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Post by Cvslfc123 on Nov 28, 2018 17:41:49 GMT -5
The Mr McMahon lie detector test in 2003 was wonderful
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Post by ChitownKnight on Nov 28, 2018 20:18:41 GMT -5
How about when Ambrose cashed in MITB on Rollins right after he won the title
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Post by IgnahtaSempria on Nov 28, 2018 20:25:47 GMT -5
The entire Cruiserweight division running train on Enzo is still satisfying. Maybe more so now that he's somehow become an even bigger fool.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Nov 28, 2018 20:50:41 GMT -5
Of all people, Linda McMahon gets one... God, look how invested that crowd are inn Linda f'n McMahon. I will say that despite not being much of a promo, anytime Linda showed up, you knew something big was about to go down.
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Post by Nikki Heyman on Nov 28, 2018 21:10:10 GMT -5
The entire Cruiserweight division running train on Enzo is still satisfying. Maybe more so now that he's somehow become an even bigger fool. I still look this up because it's that gratifying.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Nov 28, 2018 21:14:06 GMT -5
The entire Cruiserweight division running train on Enzo is still satisfying. Maybe more so now that he's somehow become an even bigger fool. I still look this up because it's that gratifying. The best part was when Braun Strowman showed up to let Enzo get those hands.
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Post by 4real on Nov 30, 2018 13:58:19 GMT -5
Undertaker getting revenge on Edge in Hell In A Cell was a good one with Taker hitting Edge with a camera and a conchairto which Edge had done to him previously.
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Post by FHgrad99 on Nov 30, 2018 19:51:47 GMT -5
One that comes to mind that hasn't been mentioned was "Stone Cold" Steve Austin's return at No Way Out in 2003 to absolutely destroy Eric Bischoff to the delight of Jim Ross.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Dec 3, 2018 17:22:15 GMT -5
One that comes to mind that hasn't been mentioned was "Stone Cold" Steve Austin's return at No Way Out in 2003 to absolutely destroy Eric Bischoff to the delight of Jim Ross. Austin hadn't got a reaction that loud since the InVasion.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Dec 3, 2018 17:52:34 GMT -5
One that comes to mind that hasn't been mentioned was "Stone Cold" Steve Austin's return at No Way Out in 2003 to absolutely destroy Eric Bischoff to the delight of Jim Ross. Ross' reaction to Austin's entrance was amazing. "Here he comes.The toughest son of a bitch in the WWE, and by God, he's coming to kick another man's ass!!"
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Post by fw91 on Dec 3, 2018 19:10:48 GMT -5
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Post by Sam Punk on Dec 9, 2018 14:48:52 GMT -5
Real shit. I'm so tired of cool heels and heat for the sake of heat with no real payoff. f***'s sake, I wanna see heroes get the W! That's why I watch fiction, to see the good guy win in the end. Wrestling was such a perfect outlet for this and somehow, someway, the game got f***ed up. I get what you’re saying, but wouldn’t the faces just winning all the time for the sake of winning end up getting very hollow? I’d want them to win as the conclusion of a satisfying story arc, and that’s the key issue, I think. The company/fan relationship has become so toxic through all the unsatisfying everything that, and I really can’t blame anyone for this in all honesty, nobody is waiting for the story arc to play out before they cast final judgment. No way. It's much more enjoyable to see the faces win most of the time.
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Post by Susan "Poison" Candy on Dec 9, 2018 14:59:13 GMT -5
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Dec 9, 2018 16:06:58 GMT -5
I get what you’re saying, but wouldn’t the faces just winning all the time for the sake of winning end up getting very hollow? I’d want them to win as the conclusion of a satisfying story arc, and that’s the key issue, I think. The company/fan relationship has become so toxic through all the unsatisfying everything that, and I really can’t blame anyone for this in all honesty, nobody is waiting for the story arc to play out before they cast final judgment. No way. It's much more enjoyable to see the faces win most of the time. At the end of the day, the good guy should absolutely win 98% of the time. Yes, there can be times where the heels win the battle, but they should ultimately lose the war. Stories where the heels keep going over with no end in sight are unappealing.
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Dec 9, 2018 16:19:27 GMT -5
Oh god, this was so uncomfortable. SO UNCOMFORTABLE "We really want to show a man beating up a relatively helpless woman, but we can't just show that straight out, so we have to be all coy and make it an 'accident,' even though the whole spot will be set up to make the crowd pop." Hey wrestling fans, either own that you want the dude to beat up the woman or boo the woman getting hurt.
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Post by feartear on Dec 9, 2018 16:34:13 GMT -5
For bonus points, hearing Steph's grating screams has never been so delicious.
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