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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Mar 16, 2019 11:51:09 GMT -5
Related note I watched a video recently of every Fatality in the series and my vote for the worst one has to go to either Noob's, "Do a Babality, then they turn back to normal, then they explode," one from Trilogy or Rain uppercutting them upside-down. Though the fade to black ones are also pretty much all horrible. Neck stretch is still near my top worst The custom fatalities from MK Armageddon are the worst for me, mainly due to robbing every character of individual ones.
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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on Mar 16, 2019 12:31:06 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm not a fan of that. Or of them continuing to say, "Fatality!" before, "_____ wins!" Also, there is a LOT of retconning going on in the bios for MK11. {Spoiler}{Spoiler} ![](https://i.imgur.com/IxPnwZG.jpg) Biggest ones are it's implied Erron Black isn't old after all and first came to Outworld with Kano, Kabal apparently never left the Black Dragon, and Skarlet is now a normal woman who Kahn gave powers instead of being someone he directly created. Don't forget there's time travel stuff going on. There's a at least two different timelines clashing, maybe more that we aren't aware of yet. Maybe I'm missing something but I don't see what implies Erron Black isn't actually old in that bio. Kabal's backstory actually seems to run contrary to what has been established so far, as he left the Black Dragon to join the police originally (Stryker was with him when he got burned in MK9). Here, it's the other way around. Sub-Zero's story also seems to have been changed fairly drastically, as it implies that Sektor had a leading position in the Cyber Lin Kuei, which... I don't remember ever being a thing. Raiden has been intriguing from the past, as the ending to MKX showed that Dark Raiden was back and ready to kick ass, yet it seems we still have regular MK2-style Good Guy Raiden. Shao Kahn is probably the most obvious one, having recuperated nicely form his bad case of the deaths (and there's no way it was a doppelgänger this time). There is no doubt in my mind that this Shao Kahn is from either the original timeline or an alternate one (the latter would explain the stupid anime armour). Was D'vorah being part of a hive mind a thing before? Cuz it didn't feel that way in MKX. I suppose they could be part of a hive mind AND have individual thoughts, but it still seems odd. Also seems odd that the other characters never expected to put her hive before any other allegiance if that's the case.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2019 12:34:12 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm not a fan of that. Or of them continuing to say, "Fatality!" before, "_____ wins!" Also, there is a LOT of retconning going on in the bios for MK11. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler} ![](https://i.imgur.com/IxPnwZG.jpg) Biggest ones are it's implied Erron Black isn't old after all and first came to Outworld with Kano, Kabal apparently never left the Black Dragon, and Skarlet is now a normal woman who Kahn gave powers instead of being someone he directly created. Don't forget there's time travel stuff going on. There's a at least two different timelines clashing, maybe more that we aren't aware of yet. Maybe I'm missing something but I don't see what implies Erron Black isn't actually old in that bio. Kabal's backstory actually seems to run contrary to what has been established so far, as he left the Black Dragon to join the police originally (Stryker was with him when he got burned in MK9). Here, it's the other way around. Sub-Zero's story also seems to have been changed fairly drastically, as it implies that Sektor had a leading position in the Cyber Lin Kuei, which... I don't remember ever being a thing. Raiden has been intriguing from the past, as the ending to MKX showed that Dark Raiden was back and ready to kick ass, yet it seems we still have regular MK2-style Good Guy Raiden. Shao Kahn is probably the most obvious one, having recuperated nicely form his bad case of the deaths (and there's no way it was a doppelgänger this time). There is no doubt in my mind that this Shao Kahn is from either the original timeline or an alternate one (the latter would explain the stupid anime armour). Was D'vorah being part of a hive mind a thing before? Cuz it didn't feel that way in MKX. I suppose they could be part of a hive mind AND have individual thoughts, but it still seems odd. Also seems odd that the other characters never expected to put her hive before any other allegiance if that's the case. Few of those actually were established before - there was a whole thing in the comics with Sektor having taken over the Lin Kuei and Sub-Zero worked with Cyrax (who then did a heroic sacrifice) to overthrow it. As for D'vorah, that actually does come up; she's shown reforming after being killed in the comics and there are some stray lines about how it's odd for a Kytinn to be loyal to an outsider.
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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on Mar 16, 2019 18:52:07 GMT -5
Don't forget there's time travel stuff going on. There's a at least two different timelines clashing, maybe more that we aren't aware of yet. Maybe I'm missing something but I don't see what implies Erron Black isn't actually old in that bio. Kabal's backstory actually seems to run contrary to what has been established so far, as he left the Black Dragon to join the police originally (Stryker was with him when he got burned in MK9). Here, it's the other way around. Sub-Zero's story also seems to have been changed fairly drastically, as it implies that Sektor had a leading position in the Cyber Lin Kuei, which... I don't remember ever being a thing. Raiden has been intriguing from the past, as the ending to MKX showed that Dark Raiden was back and ready to kick ass, yet it seems we still have regular MK2-style Good Guy Raiden. Shao Kahn is probably the most obvious one, having recuperated nicely form his bad case of the deaths (and there's no way it was a doppelgänger this time). There is no doubt in my mind that this Shao Kahn is from either the original timeline or an alternate one (the latter would explain the stupid anime armour). Was D'vorah being part of a hive mind a thing before? Cuz it didn't feel that way in MKX. I suppose they could be part of a hive mind AND have individual thoughts, but it still seems odd. Also seems odd that the other characters never expected to put her hive before any other allegiance if that's the case. Few of those actually were established before - there was a whole thing in the comics with Sektor having taken over the Lin Kuei and Sub-Zero worked with Cyrax (who then did a heroic sacrifice) to overthrow it. As for D'vorah, that actually does come up; she's shown reforming after being killed in the comics and there are some stray lines about how it's odd for a Kytinn to be loyal to an outsider. Fair point, although I wouldn't take the comics as a guaranteed source of canon material for the games considering how much of it was directly contradicted in MKX.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Mar 16, 2019 19:36:18 GMT -5
Few of those actually were established before - there was a whole thing in the comics with Sektor having taken over the Lin Kuei and Sub-Zero worked with Cyrax (who then did a heroic sacrifice) to overthrow it. As for D'vorah, that actually does come up; she's shown reforming after being killed in the comics and there are some stray lines about how it's odd for a Kytinn to be loyal to an outsider. Fair point, although I wouldn't take the comics as a guaranteed source of canon material for the games considering how much of it was directly contradicted in MKX. Yeah Netherrealm ignore their own comics pretty much entirely
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Post by Shai on Mar 16, 2019 20:08:06 GMT -5
I'm definitely more of a casual MK fan, but can I just ask why people seemingly hate Sindel so much? She's been my favorite charater since the first MK game I ever played (which was Trilogy)
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Post by IgnahtaSempria on Mar 16, 2019 20:11:23 GMT -5
I'm definitely more of a casual MK fan, but can I just ask why people seemingly hate Sindel so much? She's been my favorite charater since the first MK game I ever played (which was Trilogy) It was mostly her being ludicrously overpowered and killing 90% of the heroes in MK9 without a sweat. Major Diabolus Ex Machina.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Mar 16, 2019 21:18:53 GMT -5
Yeah the Sindel hate is almost all from that one cutscene in MK9.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Mar 16, 2019 21:32:04 GMT -5
Geras's second Fatality is absolutely disgusting - Also, more I think about it more I think Chameleon is going to be DLC doing the Triborg thing of having different characters for different styles. There are just enough missing ninjas in the roster for him to make a full set of styles out of them (Reptile, Ermac, and Rain; note this isn't counting Smoke since he doesn't tend to get lumped in with them), if Noob ends up making the cut like rumors suggest. Another note the current math for how many characters there are total seems... rather all over the place. The season pass promises six DLC characters not counting Shao Kahn, which would leave the final roster at 27 going by the character select, but the website has 29 slots on the bios section (which has since been pulled, so apparently they weren't supposed to show that yet) with Kahn among them which would seem to imply a final in-game total of 28, assuming they aren't just leaving a slot open for whoever the first DLC is since they'll probably be announced before launch. Related to that apparently Geras went through a name-change at some point because his bio on the site refers to him as Terminas. What the f***
I'm not feeling the slow motion shit but some of the fatalities this year is insane
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Post by MrElijah on Mar 17, 2019 1:25:57 GMT -5
On the subject of Fatalities, here's, IMHO, the best theme.
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Post by Mozenrath on Mar 17, 2019 1:36:43 GMT -5
I want something like the Quan Chi leg beating fatality to come back. Just, goofy violent, but not necessarily gory.
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Post by CMWaters on Mar 17, 2019 5:13:52 GMT -5
I'm definitely more of a casual MK fan, but can I just ask why people seemingly hate Sindel so much? She's been my favorite charater since the first MK game I ever played (which was Trilogy) It was mostly her being ludicrously overpowered and killing 90% of the heroes in MK9 without a sweat. Major Diabolus Ex Machina. Though they tend to forget she was powered up by Shang Tsung's soul and thus any souls he absorbed.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2019 10:19:54 GMT -5
It was mostly her being ludicrously overpowered and killing 90% of the heroes in MK9 without a sweat. Major Diabolus Ex Machina. Though they tend to forget she was powered up by Shang Tsung's soul and thus any souls he absorbed. If anything I feel like that makes it way worse. It's something there's not really been much of a basis for in the series before then (yeah, Ermac, but he's actually made out of the things), speaking of Ermac it'd make more sense for him to receive such a power-up, there's not even any time devoted to addressing this massive threat because Nightwolf kills her immediately, and it's throwing one of the series's best villains under the bus with about two-seconds of lead-up to make it happen.
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Post by Hypnosis on Mar 17, 2019 17:37:21 GMT -5
I'm definitely more of a casual MK fan, but can I just ask why people seemingly hate Sindel so much? She's been my favorite charater since the first MK game I ever played (which was Trilogy) It was mostly her being ludicrously overpowered and killing 90% of the heroes in MK9 without a sweat. Major Diabolus Ex Machina. That's actually why I didn't buy MK9 until the Komplete Edition came out, because I'd already watched Story Mode on Youtube out of curiosity.
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Post by xCompackx on Mar 17, 2019 23:34:51 GMT -5
Geras's second Fatality is absolutely disgusting - Also, more I think about it more I think Chameleon is going to be DLC doing the Triborg thing of having different characters for different styles. There are just enough missing ninjas in the roster for him to make a full set of styles out of them (Reptile, Ermac, and Rain; note this isn't counting Smoke since he doesn't tend to get lumped in with them), if Noob ends up making the cut like rumors suggest. Another note the current math for how many characters there are total seems... rather all over the place. The season pass promises six DLC characters not counting Shao Kahn, which would leave the final roster at 27 going by the character select, but the website has 29 slots on the bios section (which has since been pulled, so apparently they weren't supposed to show that yet) with Kahn among them which would seem to imply a final in-game total of 28, assuming they aren't just leaving a slot open for whoever the first DLC is since they'll probably be announced before launch. Related to that apparently Geras went through a name-change at some point because his bio on the site refers to him as Terminas. What the f*** I'm not feeling the slow motion shit but some of the fatalities this year is insane
Regarding the slow motion stuff, I think it works for fatalities. It adds a little something extra and highlights the violence well. Personally, I wasn’t a huge fan of the whole “focus on the gore” thing in X’s fatalities; it’s a small thing, but I kinda like victory poses. Eh.
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Post by 'Foretold' Joker on Mar 18, 2019 6:27:23 GMT -5
Kano's fatality is so dull, Seriously it is just headbutts.
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Post by Eunös ✈ on Mar 18, 2019 6:43:33 GMT -5
Kano's never really had the most exciting fatalities. But at least they are better than his jumping fatality in MK vs DC ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png) If anything it's his pre fight pissing that bugs me. You're fighting a dude that hasn't even washed his hands.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2019 17:59:14 GMT -5
Apparently there are going to be two reveals on the Kombat Kast this week. Guessing it's going to be Erron Black and Jacqui since we already know they're in but haven't really seen anything yet; only real concrete info is that they aren't ready to show D'vorah yet. Also, there's a rumor going around that... {Spoiler}{Spoiler}The Krypt's been expanded into a full adventure side-mode and Shang Tsung, Mileena, and Rain will be unlocked through it. Not sure how much I buy into that but lot of people are taking it seriously. And I would certainly take that particular unlockable lineup over the other rumored one.
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Post by Johnny B. Decent on Mar 18, 2019 18:44:30 GMT -5
Kano's fatality is so dull, Seriously it is just headbutts. It *is* very Australian, though.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2019 18:46:16 GMT -5
Just posted in the PlayStation thread that I finally started XL (I know...). I only played for about two and a half hours and I'm already pumped for 11!
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