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Post by lionheart21 on Oct 15, 2020 8:39:00 GMT -5
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Post by chrom on Oct 15, 2020 9:19:58 GMT -5
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Post by chrom on Oct 15, 2020 10:47:55 GMT -5
So I imagine Mileena's ending will be a remix of her Armageddon ending
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Post by dav on Oct 15, 2020 11:00:06 GMT -5
I'm trying to think of the characters MK 11 did the worst for and Baraka and Kabal are definitely at the top of the list. Followed closely by Sindel's "I was always bad!" bullshit and Noob Saibot having Dr. Claw's voice. Actually, I think it's better to ask who MK 11 did well for, honestly. Kotal Khan and his fall into jobbing is remarkable as well. It started pretty much from the outset when he lost clean to Kung Jin before the game was halfway over. The guy's supposed to have risen to the same rank of Shao Khan, he shouldn't be losing as often and as easily as he was at all.
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Post by chrom on Oct 15, 2020 11:07:37 GMT -5
Kotal Khan and his fall into jobbing is remarkable as well. It started pretty much from the outset when he lost clean to Kung Jin before the game was halfway over. The guy's supposed to have risen to the same rank of Shao Khan, he shouldn't be losing as often and as easily as he was at all. Yeah, dude's suppose to be equally as strong as Khan and yet he loses to the second stringer of the Special Forces.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2020 11:11:19 GMT -5
I kind of want MK12 to just cut the story mode honestly. It feels like they cater the roster and a lot of the artistic changes around the story when those things are more important than the story mode is, and at this point the story mode's just kind of a mess of confusing retcons and has way too many cutscenes of just random mooks shooting at each other. Feel like putting the energy that goes into making all the scenes for it would be better spent elsewhere and the rest of the game around it would probably also be better for ditching it.
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Post by xCompackx on Oct 15, 2020 12:02:25 GMT -5
At the very least, they need to change up the story mode. Go back to Deception/Armageddon style where it's a playable experience and not just fights broken up by cutscenes. Hell, they've done this with the Krypt in 11; branch that out into the story mode if you want to have it.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Oct 15, 2020 12:29:58 GMT -5
Kotal Khan and his fall into jobbing is remarkable as well. It started pretty much from the outset when he lost clean to Kung Jin before the game was halfway over. The guy's supposed to have risen to the same rank of Shao Khan, he shouldn't be losing as often and as easily as he was at all. They should have at least suggested he was either holding back out of respect for Kung Jin’s master, previously poisoned by Melina/D’Vorra/Kano, or simply was giving him a chance to show him something since he (Kotal) never really was in danger and only conceded the need for further fightIng.
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Post by Johnny B. Decent on Oct 15, 2020 16:48:26 GMT -5
Or just have someone else like Reptile fight him?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2020 17:14:46 GMT -5
Honestly if you still want to do stories going the Street Fighter 5 route with every character having their own self-focused story would probably be a way better approach. If nothing else at least you could ease up on what useless jobbers people like Baraka, Erron Black, and Reptile are.
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Post by FinalGwen on Oct 15, 2020 22:56:26 GMT -5
and they already have Baraka for that >_> I'm trying to think of the characters MK 11 did the worst for and Baraka and Kabal are definitely at the top of the list. Followed closely by Sindel's "I was always bad!" bullshit and Noob Saibot having Dr. Claw's voice. Actually, I think it's better to ask who MK 11 did well for, honestly. 100% disagree on Baraka. For the first time he's given some agency as a character and seems more like an individual rather than 'every other generic Tarkatan but with a white shirt'. And outside of story mode content, some of his skins are amazing. Kabal, well, yeah, can probably give a bit more of an argument since he doesn't get a lot to work with in the story, but all the same, I'd still probably say Black Dragon Kabal > 'I guess he's a cop now so Stryker has someone to talk to' Kabal, if nothing else then aesthetically. (Also, I know it's unpopular but I'm down for the Sindel twist. Kitana was already filling the Edenian rightful Kahn thing, so what would she really have added beyond sitting around saying "Well done!" to her? There's been stuff from the pre-MK1 story changed already and it gives her something to do, but if nothing else you can write it off as a different timeline merging because of Kronika's messing.) Noob... Yeah, he's pretty dull.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2020 23:25:02 GMT -5
Noob in 11 to me screams, "We had no interest in using this character but fans wanted him so we worked him in," the same way Joker and Atrocitus had f***-all to do with Injustice 2's storyline but just showed up in it anyway.
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Post by Johnny B. Decent on Oct 15, 2020 23:37:54 GMT -5
I would have gone more for Noob wanting to come back to life, and distancing himself from the Shinnok Crowd.
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Post by chrom on Oct 16, 2020 6:02:36 GMT -5
I would have gone more for Noob wanting to come back to life, and distancing himself from the Shinnok Crowd. Or his 9 ending with him working with Havik
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2020 22:58:29 GMT -5
I would have gone more for Noob wanting to come back to life, and distancing himself from the Shinnok Crowd. Or his 9 ending with him working with Havik Hell, at the very least if you must kill off Hanzo (which I still see as a huge mistake, he's way more interesting than standard Scorpion is), it should be Noob doing it to bring their rivalry full circle and show the past Scorpion how his cycle of revenge will end up for him instead of it being Bug Poochie doing it.
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Post by chrom on Oct 20, 2020 20:29:19 GMT -5
They said in X that Mileena was a inept ruler but the only person we had to confirm it was Kotal who hated her.
What we saw after she was overthrown she was able to secure alliances between Tarkatans, Shokans and Edenians to help her
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Post by CMWaters on Oct 20, 2020 20:41:01 GMT -5
They said in X that Mileena was a inept ruler but the only person we had to confirm it was Kotal who hated her. What we saw after she was overthrown she was able to secure alliances between Tarkatans, Shokans and Edenians to help her Maybe that's the Kitana in her, given what Kitana did in 11.
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Post by xCompackx on Oct 21, 2020 12:40:57 GMT -5
Noob in 11 to me screams, "We had no interest in using this character but fans wanted him so we worked him in," the same way Joker and Atrocitus had f***-all to do with Injustice 2's storyline but just showed up in it anyway. I wouldn't even mind if characters like Noob and Kabal (and after the completely bullshit way they give up on the main hook from MKX, Raiden) were just here because fans want them if there wasn't such a lack in character development for them. They could've had Noob and Kabal both do their own things and show us what their goals actually even are, but both of them are relegated to standard baddies. Even worse for Kabal since he had a new direction in MK9 and they took it away from him.
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Post by CMWaters on Oct 22, 2020 10:51:12 GMT -5
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Post by Johnny B. Decent on Oct 22, 2020 11:11:38 GMT -5
Gotta be honest, that was a pretty creative Fatality *and* Fatal Blow there.
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