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Post by CMWaters on Feb 8, 2019 7:13:01 GMT -5
I just want Kotal in to hear the exchanges between him and Shao Kahn.
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Post by dav on Feb 8, 2019 8:57:44 GMT -5
Kotal would have been a lot better if they hadn't jobbed him right out to the archer fella. The stories in the Mortal Kombat games suffer from more 50/50 booking than the WWE.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Feb 8, 2019 9:04:54 GMT -5
Kotal would have been a lot better if they hadn't jobbed him right out to the archer fella. The stories in the Mortal Kombat games suffer from more 50/50 booking than the WWE. I believe I said it earlier, but Netherrealm's stories tend to be pretty bad.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2019 11:33:08 GMT -5
With the way the roster is shaping up it seems less to make a great roster and more a roster that facilitates the story
No one gives a f*** about Kotal Khan lol
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Post by IgnahtaSempria on Feb 8, 2019 21:19:45 GMT -5
Some more possible names have leaked through the Steam thing. KUN - Kung Lao or Kung Jin? CAS - Cassie? JAD - Jade? CET - ? FRO - Frost? KOT - Kotal Kahn? JAC - Jacqui? TER - ? KOL - ? Roster's looking... kind of crap so far to be honest. Only ones of these I'm really into are Cassie and Frost, although by no means opposed to Jade. And in particular I really disliked just about everything about Kotal Kahn - his design's bland, he might be the least fun character to play as in 10 for me, and in terms of the story he's a useless idiot who they seem to be trying to force you to see as super awesome. Swerve- it's actually his father, Kotal K'etz.
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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on Feb 9, 2019 12:23:06 GMT -5
Kotal would have been a lot better if they hadn't jobbed him right out to the archer fella. The stories in the Mortal Kombat games suffer from more 50/50 booking than the WWE. I'm still mad at them for retconning Kitana and Mileena's story (which didn't even have any reason to be affected by the timeline split) and making it far less meaningful by not having them being raised as sisters any more. I remember that by Armageddon, they had Kitana try to have Mileena turn a new leaf, and I was really hoping we'd end up seeing Good Mileena as I thought it would be very interesting to see a character like her seeking redemption by siding with the good guys. Still love Kotal Kahn. It's fascinating to see Outworld helmed by a guy who is still very violent and a conqueror, but is more reasonable and is willing to at least give diplomacy a try.
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Post by dav on Feb 9, 2019 14:22:09 GMT -5
Kotal would have been a lot better if they hadn't jobbed him right out to the archer fella. The stories in the Mortal Kombat games suffer from more 50/50 booking than the WWE. I'm still mad at them for retconning Kitana and Mileena's story (which didn't even have any reason to be affected by the timeline split) and making it far less meaningful by not having them being raised as sisters any more. I remember that by Armageddon, they had Kitana try to have Mileena turn a new leaf, and I was really hoping we'd end up seeing Good Mileena as I thought it would be very interesting to see a character like her seeking redemption by siding with the good guys. Still love Kotal Kahn. It's fascinating to see Outworld helmed by a guy who is still very violent and a conqueror, but is more reasonable and is willing to at least give diplomacy a try. He still could have been managed much better though. Guy is the ruler of Outworld now after now and should have a place on the roster to reflect that. Him being treated like anyone else and losing in a clean fight wasn't right. And I agree on Mileena not being used right. Could have gone a lot of different ways if she'd gone for redemption.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2019 14:29:27 GMT -5
Personally I'm wanting to see Mileena in the Netherrealm as a member of Liu Kang and Kitana's gang, basically emphasizing how her, Kitana, and Sindel can now in death be one big happy family. Think that'd be really fascinating to examine... and it's really the one angle at all in which I even slightly care about the Liu Kang and Kitana ruling the Netherrealm thing.
Although I did think on things last night and did realize one point I want to give 10's story in retrospect here - all the obvious repeats of shit in the original timeline (Johnny Cage being the leader of the heroes and beating up Shinnok, evil Raiden, zombie Liu Kang, Sub-Zero taking over the Lin Kuei, Tekunin happening, probably a lot more I'm blanking on at the moment) make a LOT more sense with the reveal a time goddess is behind everything and trying to keep things on the rails.
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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on Feb 9, 2019 14:57:32 GMT -5
Ah, the most original character from MKX is back. Love that guy, and his deep character traits like "owns guns" and "likes guns". But hey, you can't question a fresh, unique design like this. Pretty sneaky of Netherrealm Studios to rip off a game that wouldn't be released until over a year after their own. Truly, Kronika's powers are awe-inspiring. Not that I wish to question the originality of Venom Snake cosplaying as Blondie or anything.
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Post by Eunös ✈ on Feb 9, 2019 17:32:47 GMT -5
Not really feeling this game at the moment I have to say.
Hopefully once more of the roster is official it might change my mind.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2019 17:41:31 GMT -5
Not really feeling this game at the moment I have to say. Hopefully once more of the roster is official it might change my mind. Yeah, being honest only thing keeping my interest in this game up is the fact I thought everything about 9 and 10 sounded stupid on paper as well but ended up really enjoying those. Although by the same token I really regret even buying Injustice 2 and I'm hoping this game avoids the worst of it. I got so fed up with that game trying to sell me shit I haven't even downloaded any of the DLC characters who came out after Black Manta despite having the season pass.
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Post by IgnahtaSempria on Feb 9, 2019 17:47:43 GMT -5
Personally I'm wanting to see Mileena in the Netherrealm as a member of Liu Kang and Kitana's gang, basically emphasizing how her, Kitana, and Sindel can now in death be one big happy family. Think that'd be really fascinating to examine... and it's really the one angle at all in which I even slightly care about the Liu Kang and Kitana ruling the Netherrealm thing. Although I did think on things last night and did realize one point I want to give 10's story in retrospect here - all the obvious repeats of shit in the original timeline (Johnny Cage being the leader of the heroes and beating up Shinnok, evil Raiden, zombie Liu Kang, Sub-Zero taking over the Lin Kuei, Tekunin happening, probably a lot more I'm blanking on at the moment) make a LOT more sense with the reveal a time goddess is behind everything and trying to keep things on the rails. I liked Mileena's MKX arcade ending, where it turns out that Shang Tsung created an entire army of Mileenas, and she reincarnates into one of the bodies and discovers they have a hive mind. I feel like they could make a really cool moveset for The Mileena Collective.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2019 17:49:42 GMT -5
Personally I'm wanting to see Mileena in the Netherrealm as a member of Liu Kang and Kitana's gang, basically emphasizing how her, Kitana, and Sindel can now in death be one big happy family. Think that'd be really fascinating to examine... and it's really the one angle at all in which I even slightly care about the Liu Kang and Kitana ruling the Netherrealm thing. Although I did think on things last night and did realize one point I want to give 10's story in retrospect here - all the obvious repeats of shit in the original timeline (Johnny Cage being the leader of the heroes and beating up Shinnok, evil Raiden, zombie Liu Kang, Sub-Zero taking over the Lin Kuei, Tekunin happening, probably a lot more I'm blanking on at the moment) make a LOT more sense with the reveal a time goddess is behind everything and trying to keep things on the rails. I liked Mileena's MKX arcade ending, where it turns out that Shang Tsung created an entire army of Mileenas, and she reincarnates into one of the bodies and discovers they have a hive mind. I feel like they could make a really cool moveset for The Mileena Collective. So long as she doesn't have that awful Fatality of Scorpion's from Ultimate 3 where a bunch of him show up then it cuts to black.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2019 17:51:20 GMT -5
I am worried all the actual characters people want are going to be DLC in an effort get them to spend money...and that will kill this game real f***ing quickly even with all the good will from the last 2 games.
Mileena Smoke Cyber Smoke/Cyrax/Sektor/Triborg Rain Noob Saibot Reptile Ermac
There are alot of great characters right now being left out....and making room for characters like Erron Black and supposedly Kotal Kahn and Jacquie Briggs who have their fans but pretty damn sure no one would complain if you replaced those 3 with any of the superior favourites being left out that I mentioned.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2019 17:52:39 GMT -5
I am worried all the actual characters people want are going to be DLC in an effort get them to spend money...and that will kill this game real f***ing quickly even with all the good will from the last 2 games. Mileena Smoke Cyber Smoke/Cyrax/Sektor/Triborg Rain Noob Saibot Reptile Ermac There are alot of great characters right now being left out....and making room for characters like Erron Black and supposedly Kotal Kahn and Jacquie Briggs who have their fans but pretty damn sure no one would complain if you replaced those 3 with any of the superior favourites being left out that I mentioned. Another exclusion I'm really baffled by is Takeda. I feel like he was probably the best-received of the MKX newcomers and there's just zero sign of him right now. Although I feel like you're giving them too much credit to assume the DLC isn't going to mostly consist of Michael Myers and Jigsaw and shit. Though I kind of feel like DLC might be the best place for Reptile and Ermac just because it keeps them from being total jobbers for once.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2019 17:56:15 GMT -5
I liked Mileena's MKX arcade ending, where it turns out that Shang Tsung created an entire army of Mileenas, and she reincarnates into one of the bodies and discovers they have a hive mind. I feel like they could make a really cool moveset for The Mileena Collective. So long as she doesn't have that awful Fatality of Scorpion's from Ultimate 3 where a bunch of him show up then it cuts to black. UMK3 has a nasty f***ing habit of having a bunch of "censored" fatalities Shao Kahn had one Supposedly older Sub Zero's spine rip was the fatality we were not allowed to see the afformentioned scorpion fatality
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2019 17:58:31 GMT -5
So long as she doesn't have that awful Fatality of Scorpion's from Ultimate 3 where a bunch of him show up then it cuts to black. UMK3 has a nasty f***ing habit of having a bunch of "censored" fatalities Shao Kahn had one Supposedly older Sub Zero's spine rip was the fatality we were not allowed to see the afformentioned scorpion fatality I was actually watching through a video of every Fatality in the series yesterday wanting to make a separate thread about them - left off at Deception and need to get back to it - and it was interesting to see how bad Fatalities got at 3, how much worse they are in Ultimate 3 and Trilogy (special points to the what-the-f*** of Noob's, "Do a Babality, turn them back to normal, then they explode," one), how much better they get in 4, and then how much they suck again in Deadly Alliance.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2019 18:07:31 GMT -5
UMK3 has a nasty f***ing habit of having a bunch of "censored" fatalities Shao Kahn had one Supposedly older Sub Zero's spine rip was the fatality we were not allowed to see the afformentioned scorpion fatality I was actually watching through a video of every Fatality in the series yesterday wanting to make a separate thread about them - left off at Deception and need to get back to it - and it was interesting to see how bad Fatalities got at 3, how much worse they are in Ultimate 3 and Trilogy (special points to the what-the-f*** of Noob's, "Do a Babality, turn them back to normal, then they explode," one), how much better they get in 4, and then how much they suck again in Deadly Alliance. Aw come on no appreciation for the legendary use of Arcade cabinet falls on opponent I mean lets take in the absoloute creatvity it took to come up with this one shall we
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2019 18:11:44 GMT -5
I was actually watching through a video of every Fatality in the series yesterday wanting to make a separate thread about them - left off at Deception and need to get back to it - and it was interesting to see how bad Fatalities got at 3, how much worse they are in Ultimate 3 and Trilogy (special points to the what-the-f*** of Noob's, "Do a Babality, turn them back to normal, then they explode," one), how much better they get in 4, and then how much they suck again in Deadly Alliance. Aw come on no appreciation for the legendary use of Arcade cabinet falls on opponent I mean lets take in the absoloute creatvity it took to come up with this one shall we Hey, it beats his cartwheel uppercut. And if nothing else I'd argue that one might be the best Fatality in MK vs. DCU just because it's one of the few callback ones that fits in a T setting and there wasn't really any room to butcher it like, say, what happened to Joker's. Although it doesn't really even look like it kills them in that since their legs are still moving.
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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on Feb 10, 2019 3:12:20 GMT -5
Personally I'm wanting to see Mileena in the Netherrealm as a member of Liu Kang and Kitana's gang, basically emphasizing how her, Kitana, and Sindel can now in death be one big happy family. Think that'd be really fascinating to examine... and it's really the one angle at all in which I even slightly care about the Liu Kang and Kitana ruling the Netherrealm thing. Yeah, I think that'd be the best way to go about it, though as far as I'm aware, so far only Liu Kang and Kitana have been shown alongside Raiden. Speaking of Mileena? Anyone else hoped they were going to make Baraka's teeth similar to hers in MKX? I always found the Tarkatan teeth to look silly, as they're so absurdly long that it looks like they can barely move their mouths (and indeed, cutscenes shows that to be true. Makes me wonder how they speak so clearly), and at the same time, they look so thin that they'd snap under any amount of pressure and probably injure the Tarkatan. Kind of sucks when you give someone huge pointy teeth, but they're so huge that they can't even bite. It's a problem I've had with a lot of 90's monster designs, even as a kid.
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