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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Dec 14, 2018 18:40:45 GMT -5
I didn't hate it (and still don't), I just remember leaving the cinema feeling bitterly disappointed. It was the first Star Wars that I got to experience "live" (so to speak) and it was a story that I was interested in after growing up on the OT, but it was just so... blah. It had a couple of highlights, but was mainly just a whole lot of nothing. It effectively killed my enthusiasm for Episodes II and III. Yeah that was pretty much my feeling. "It was alright." I didn't 'feel' anything.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Dec 14, 2018 18:40:51 GMT -5
I thought it was alright. Looking back, if you take the stupidity of Jar Jar out, it's not a bad movie. Honestly, I think Jar Jar is the least of its problems. Anakin being poorly written (which obviously never improved in the sequels), the casually racist stereotypes, the long stretches of the movie where nothing happens, the never-ending podrace, and the Jedi being portrayed as completely hapless all rank above Jar Jar for me.
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Post by nate5054 on Dec 14, 2018 18:48:21 GMT -5
I was 21 when it came out, and had seen Return of the Jedi in theaters when I was like 7 or 8, so I was really excited for it.
And what I'm guessing is a pretty common reaction, I was very let down when it was over. Though I still love the Liam Nesson character.
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Post by King Devitt: Scrum Guzzler on Dec 15, 2018 8:51:46 GMT -5
My quote then still stands:
"George Lucas forgot how to George Lucas"
and then he proved me right two more times.
It was a cash grab, he became the Vince McMahon of movie-making by taking his audience for granted, and underestimating their ability to see through straight up bullshit.
I thank him for the originals, but I lost a lot of respect for him with the Phantom Menace and parts 2 and 3.
Edit: Also, why do you kill the most engaging, and badass character in the FIRST FREAKING MOVIE?! Darth Maul could have carried those movies.
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Post by Johnny Flamingo on Dec 15, 2018 9:36:17 GMT -5
Was quite excited. Really enjoyed it in the theater.
Still think it’s OK.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Dec 15, 2018 10:40:10 GMT -5
My quote then still stands: "George Lucas forgot how to George Lucas" and then he proved me right two more times. It was a cash grab, he became the Vince McMahon of movie-making by taking his audience for granted, and underestimating their ability to see through straight up bullshit. I thank him for the originals, but I lost a lot of respect for him with the Phantom Menace and parts 2 and 3. Edit: Also, why do you kill the most engaging, and badass character in the FIRST FREAKING MOVIE?! Darth Maul could have carried those movies. Considering both of the other prequels introduced new "badass Sith warriors" yeah, just keep Maul, it would also have made the beginning of 3 have that much more impact, Palpatine sacrificing his one and only right hand man of the entire saga to get into Anakin's head.
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Post by cabbageboy on Dec 15, 2018 11:16:51 GMT -5
Because Maul isn't really much of a character. He was a cool action figure come to life. I'll take Dooku as a character any day of the week. I look at the prequels this way: Phantom Menace and the first half of Attack of the Clones are clunky, but then the 2nd half of AOTC and Revenge of the Sith are quite good. In fact I'm baffled at people putting Revenge of the Sith in with the whole "I hate the prequels" argument since to me it is one of the best Star Wars movies. I'd certainly take the last 2 prequels over the new movies at any rate.
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Post by britishbulldog on Dec 15, 2018 11:17:04 GMT -5
Walked out of the theater and literally went blind and numb on my right side due to a migraine. Spend the rest of the day in the hospital seeing if I had a stroke.
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Post by The 1Watcher Experience on Dec 15, 2018 14:25:07 GMT -5
Because Maul isn't really much of a character. He was a cool action figure come to life. I'll take Dooku as a character any day of the week. I look at the prequels this way: Phantom Menace and the first half of Attack of the Clones are clunky, but then the 2nd half of AOTC and Revenge of the Sith are quite good. In fact I'm baffled at people putting Revenge of the Sith in with the whole "I hate the prequels" argument since to me it is one of the best Star Wars movies. I'd certainly take the last 2 prequels over the new movies at any rate. I think the main complaint about Revenge of the Sith is how absurd the love story is. There are a lot of other good things going on but that whole sequence was just terrible and took a lot of people right out of the movie.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Dec 15, 2018 19:02:28 GMT -5
"George Lucas forgot how to George Lucas" George Lucas never knew how to George Lucas, at least not without a ton of people to reign him in. A New Hope would've been a mess without Alec Guinness, Peter Cushing and Harrison Ford giving the cast the confidence to disregard his directions and go with their own feelings on how they should perform their scenes. In Ford's own words, "George! You can type this shit, but you sure can't say it! Move your mouth when you're typing!" Even after they'd done filming, the assembly cut and first director's cut were both reportedly awful. It took Lucas' wife coming on board as co-editor to shape the movie into the classic it became. Lucas is good at setting up a story, and at imagining grand special effects sequences, but ask him to do more than that and he's hopelessly exposed. In fact I'm baffled at people putting Revenge of the Sith in with the whole "I hate the prequels" argument since to me it is one of the best Star Wars movies. I'd certainly take the last 2 prequels over the new movies at any rate. Personally, I rank ROTS dead last of all the live action movies. The dialogue flip flops between totally flat and ridiculously overwrought, every protagonist is a straight up putz, especially when it comes to recognising Palpatine's threat, who's so obviously comically evil by that point he might as well be laughing sinisterly and twirling his moustache every time he's on screen. Anakin being an extremely unlikeable character throughout the prequels actually lessens Vader's eventual redemption. We were led to believe that before he fell to the Dark Side, Anakin was once a wise, compassionate, good man, when instead he was a petty, selfish, possessive, immature dickhead. The Clone Wars cartoons did hell of a job rehabilitating his character, because without them the story of Darth Vader would be 'Piece of shit becomes an even bigger piece of shit, saves his son, then dies.'
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball☝🏻 on Dec 15, 2018 19:21:26 GMT -5
Never saw it. Was never a Star Wars fan. Though eventually I came around and enjoyed the 2nd one. Jedi or Empire, whichever it is.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Dec 15, 2018 19:24:16 GMT -5
My quote then still stands: "George Lucas forgot how to George Lucas" and then he proved me right two more times. It was a cash grab, he became the Vince McMahon of movie-making by taking his audience for granted, and underestimating their ability to see through straight up bullshit. I thank him for the originals, but I lost a lot of respect for him with the Phantom Menace and parts 2 and 3. Edit: Also, why do you kill the most engaging, and badass character in the FIRST FREAKING MOVIE?! Darth Maul could have carried those movies. Considering both of the other prequels introduced new "badass Sith warriors" yeah, just keep Maul, it would also have made the beginning of 3 have that much more impact, Palpatine sacrificing his one and only right hand man of the entire saga to get into Anakin's head. I'd have been cool with more Dooku as well. Talk about wasting your Christopher Lee.
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Post by Wolf Hawkfield no1 NZ poster on Dec 15, 2018 19:33:32 GMT -5
Maybe because I was only 12 at time but my reaction was simply it wasn't terrible but instead just pretty meh.
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Dec 15, 2018 19:36:46 GMT -5
Revenge of the Sith..... when it came out I was a heavy smoker. Smoked 2 packs of non filtered Camels each day. But had never paid to see a movie in a theater and taken a smoke break. When a week after ROTS came out. Took 3 smoke breaks,and would have left after the first break but my wife wanted to see the rest of the film.
I rather sit thru the Star Wars Holiday Special again than see any of the prequels.
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Post by Fade is a CodyCryBaby on Dec 15, 2018 21:58:15 GMT -5
I feel like yeah,you might as well have kept Maul as a prop piece. An action guy. They didn’t even use Ray Parks voice in TPM but the character got over on looks and action kinda similar to Boba:
Just keep him. Still introduce Dooku (f*** outta here with only two there are) and have Maul replace Grievous’ astmahtic ass. On the bright side we got that awesome Rebels moment. And on the not-so-bright side that recent..other appearance.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Dec 15, 2018 22:22:28 GMT -5
"George Lucas forgot how to George Lucas" George Lucas never knew how to George Lucas, at least not without a ton of people to reign him in. A New Hope would've been a mess without Alec Guinness, Peter Cushing and Harrison Ford giving the cast the confidence to disregard his directions and go with their own feelings on how they should perform their scenes. In Ford's own words, "George! You can type this shit, but you sure can't say it! Move your mouth when you're typing!" Even after they'd done filming, the assembly cut and first director's cut were both reportedly awful. It took Lucas' wife coming on board as co-editor to shape the movie into the classic it became. Lucas is good at setting up a story, and at imagining grand special effects sequences, but ask him to do more than that and he's hopelessly exposed. It's more that people stopped telling him no. when he was making Star Wars he was a nobody so people would go up to him and say... uh George you sure about this? When making the prequels he was "The man that made Star Wars so obviously he knows what he's doing" so no one said things like... George no one gives a damn about Parliamentary procedure and trade laws... Or that the dialogue between Anakin and Padme is stilted and horrible... or... well anything that was wrong with the Prequels. I mean I get George wanted to include a thing about Trade Negotations for years since all the old pulp stories it's based on usually had a trade negotation somewhere... but you know that was because they had a shoe string for a budget and having 5 guys sitting in a room for 20 minutes was cheap.
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Post by cabbageboy on Dec 15, 2018 23:26:23 GMT -5
Let's be honest about one thing. The Trade Federation are the lamest heels in the history of all of cinema. Entirely too much time is spent on these fools when they don't matter at all since in the end they're just pawns of Palpatine's game of chess and aren't even masters of their own fate.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Dec 15, 2018 23:37:12 GMT -5
George Lucas never knew how to George Lucas, at least not without a ton of people to reign him in. A New Hope would've been a mess without Alec Guinness, Peter Cushing and Harrison Ford giving the cast the confidence to disregard his directions and go with their own feelings on how they should perform their scenes. In Ford's own words, "George! You can type this shit, but you sure can't say it! Move your mouth when you're typing!" Even after they'd done filming, the assembly cut and first director's cut were both reportedly awful. It took Lucas' wife coming on board as co-editor to shape the movie into the classic it became. Lucas is good at setting up a story, and at imagining grand special effects sequences, but ask him to do more than that and he's hopelessly exposed. It's more that people stopped telling him no. when he was making Star Wars he was a nobody so people would go up to him and say... uh George you sure about this? When making the prequels he was "The man that made Star Wars so obviously he knows what he's doing" so no one said things like... George no one gives a damn about Parliamentary procedure and trade laws... Or that the dialogue between Anakin and Padme is stilted and horrible... or... well anything that was wrong with the Prequels. The points aren't mutually exclusive though. Lucas had 100% control of Empire and Jedi but was relatively hands-off after the story stage and concentrating more on supervising ILM's work. The myth of George Lucas being one of the all-time great directors because he was the Star Wars Guy is one that should never exist. Much like Star Trek not becoming truly great until Roddenberry's influence waned, Star Wars wasn't great without the talents of others to shape Lucas' story into what it ultimately became. Once he decided that he didn't need those people and others like them, we got the Prequels.
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Post by Urethra Franklin on Dec 16, 2018 2:41:50 GMT -5
I was never a big Star Wars fan as a kid, so it wasn’t some sacrosanct property for me about which I had really strong feelings.
I saw The Phantom Menace the day it came out (I was 16 at the time) because it was an event more than anything.
I remember thinking it was visually appealing, but generally mediocre.
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Post by Ryushinku on Dec 16, 2018 5:54:25 GMT -5
First time, it absolutely flew past at the speed of light and I didn't know how to feel. After all the years waiting, it felt like the film was only thirty minutes long, heh.
Second time, loved it. I had the plot now settled in my head, the crowd laughed at the jokes and enjoyed the action, just the kind of thing you want from a cinema experience. Third and fourth times were the same deal.
Cooled off on TPM over the years, disliking it more later on then reappraising it in more recent years. It's a real mixed bag of the good, the bad and the lacklustre. I'll always enjoy the music (Williams did bravura work on all three prequels), Neeson's performance, the Podrace and the final duel.
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