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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Dec 19, 2018 12:46:59 GMT -5
I still don't understand what qualifies Jason Jordan to be an agent. He was in developmental for an eternity until Chad Gable got him over, then hit the main roster for a cup of coffee. He doesn't have any experience that would make me as a main roster talent want to listen to him. I mean he never really seemed to be lacking in the match department and he put on some pretty great stuff especially in AA's matches with The Revival. Like has been discussed before, the ability to get over with the crowd or be a successful wrestler isn't the same as structuring the match.
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Post by héad.casé on Dec 19, 2018 15:16:50 GMT -5
They were even training Curt Hawkins up to be an agent while he was out injured and had him shadowing Dean Malenko the whole day.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2018 15:23:24 GMT -5
I miss Jason Jordan (And American Alpha) and I want a conclusion to the Kurt Angles Son storyline, damn it.
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Post by edgestar on Dec 19, 2018 16:18:00 GMT -5
He’s seriously injured. That okay with you? I don't think this is fair. People don't have to suddenly want to see people who don't entertain them just because they are injured or ill. Its perfectly ok to separate the performer from the performance. bcdx97 point still stands. Sorry, but, I agree with him, on this.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 19, 2018 16:55:50 GMT -5
I don't think this is fair. People don't have to suddenly want to see people who don't entertain them just because they are injured or ill. Its perfectly ok to separate the performer from the performance. bcdx97 point still stands. Sorry, but, I agree with him, on this. Yea, I get separating the performer from the person but there is a line with injury and illness
"X Wrestler isn't on my TV because the real life person is sick or too injured to perform but it's all good because i'm only talking about the wrestler" Not really something I can get with
In regards to the talk about Jordan and how he qualifies to be an agent, he's never been bad in the ring. So what he's still young, I see that as a positive as they need younger eyes and guys more in tuned with how they know the product is run because in Kidd and Jordan case they were just wrestling not that long ago. He was in developmental for a long time which is also beneficial in a way. Sure he's not a seasoned traveler all over the world but he isn't new to the game either and can pinpoint things others may not see. He's young and learning on the job so I only see positives
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Post by Perd on Dec 19, 2018 17:03:11 GMT -5
I don’t care who plans them. I don’t care who participates in them. I don’t need to see hour long matvhes. I just don’t. If that’s your thing, fine. But it’s just not for me.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 19, 2018 17:10:20 GMT -5
I still don't understand what qualifies Jason Jordan to be an agent. He was in developmental for an eternity until Chad Gable got him over, then hit the main roster for a cup of coffee. He doesn't have any experience that would make me as a main roster talent want to listen to him. I mean he never really seemed to be lacking in the match department and he put on some pretty great stuff especially in AA's matches with The Revival. Like has been discussed before, the ability to get over with the crowd or be a successful wrestler isn't the same as structuring the match. Also if you go about it in a sports way, sometimes the best of all time aren't the best coaches. It's the "underground guys" who rise up to be managers, coaches etc
Wrestling is a diff beast but in saying that he's not a spring chicken in terms of in ring and has been wrestling for a while. Add on his amateur stuff as well and you got a guy bringing a different and idea to the product
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Dec 19, 2018 18:02:46 GMT -5
I mean he never really seemed to be lacking in the match department and he put on some pretty great stuff especially in AA's matches with The Revival. Like has been discussed before, the ability to get over with the crowd or be a successful wrestler isn't the same as structuring the match. Also if you go about it in a sports way, sometimes the best of all time aren't the best coaches. It's the "underground guys" who rise up to be managers, coaches etc Wrestling is a diff beast but in saying that he's not a spring chicken in terms of in ring and has been wrestling for a while. Add on his amateur stuff as well and you got a guy bringing a different and idea to the product
I've held wrestling is a different beast in a way that makes this even more true; you have people with amazing minds for the business and great ring skills who don't rise to the top because of stuff like just not being a strong promo, not connecting with the fans, not having the look to get pushed, coming in at the wrong time, having the wrong gimmick, office politics and other peoples' pushes getting in the way, poor writing decisions cutting your legs off... In sports you have the strong factor of only whether or not you are technically good at your sport, in wrestling you can be a wizard and never rise very high at all. That's why you have agents like Dean Malenko, and there is nobody in wrestling who should look at Dean f***ing Malenko and think "This man has no valuable insights or lessons to teach me".
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Post by blissified on Dec 19, 2018 18:03:48 GMT -5
I'm not gonna complain anything that keeps him off tv is good with me. He’s seriously injured. That okay with you? Sure if that's how you want to interpret it.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Dec 19, 2018 18:53:21 GMT -5
I didn't realize Jason Kidd and Michael Jordan knew anything about women's wre....
What's that?
Oh, that makes more sense.
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Post by Juice on Dec 19, 2018 20:25:26 GMT -5
I don't think this is fair. People don't have to suddenly want to see people who don't entertain them just because they are injured or ill. Its perfectly ok to separate the performer from the performance. bcdx97 point still stands. Sorry, but, I agree with him, on this. I disagree, it's not liked he was dumped and unemployed. I didn't even dislike Jordan. But it fully applies to Reigns for me. I hope the human is ok and gets better but He has never done anything for me as an entertainer. Doesn't mean I want him to be sick and doesn't mean I Have to suddenly like his character. Dude doesn't like Jordan he doesn't have to have have guilt because the character he played is gone, Deapite a real life injury sidelining. It's silly. It's ok to empathize with a human and dislike a portrayal by that same human.
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 19, 2018 20:27:45 GMT -5
I don’t care who plans them. I don’t care who participates in them. I don’t need to see hour long matvhes. I just don’t. If that’s your thing, fine. But it’s just not for me. I am sometimes down for them, but I want it to be like a few a year thing, tops.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Dec 19, 2018 22:23:18 GMT -5
Even though he's young Jordan has spent a lot of time in the WWE system and is probably well liked behind the scenes so they probably just wanted to give him another job since he can't wrestle anymore. I've also noticed that they assign him the women's matches a lot which is probably a good idea since most of the women on the roster are younger (mostly all falling into the 24-29 age bracket which is younger then 30 year old Jordan) and it avoids the awkwardness he would face agenting most of the men matches where he would be having to tell guys a good bit older then him what to do which I could see not going over well at with a lot of the veteran wrestlers who are big names and that have accomplished a lot.
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Post by Nic Nemeth on Dec 20, 2018 2:13:40 GMT -5
I want him back in the ring - resolve the damn storyline with Kurt Angle already.
We even have Gable on RAW now.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2018 12:09:51 GMT -5
He’s seriously injured. That okay with you? Sure if that's how you want to interpret it. I'm honestly flabbergasted at how far people are reaching to be offended, all you meant was "oh this may be his new permanent job, even if he gets better, good i wont need to see him"
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Post by TGM on Dec 20, 2018 12:52:18 GMT -5
Pull up thread!
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Post by sunnytaker on Dec 20, 2018 14:14:54 GMT -5
I still don't understand what qualifies Jason Jordan to be an agent. He was in developmental for an eternity until Chad Gable got him over, then hit the main roster for a cup of coffee. He doesn't have any experience that would make me as a main roster talent want to listen to him. clearly his father kurt angle got him the job just like how kidd had nattie win the match.
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