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Post by héad.casé on Dec 21, 2018 5:06:54 GMT -5
"Conceptually fake Diesel sounded pretty cool, but it just didn't take off that way and I don't think the audience really ever got behind it, but again, for me it got me more experience and I was determined to make that succeed."
"As for the Isaac Yankem character, it didn't succeed the way I wanted it too. It was due to me, as with the fake Diesel character, it was the fact that it was never meant to be. But I felt I had done my part to make it as successful as I could have made it."
"Isaac Yankem came out in a time where WWE was shifting philosophies, where we were going from a purely PG product and getting into much more edgy and the Attitude Era was still a couple years away, but I was kinda the last of the over-the-top characters we had... Frankly, I never got into the character. I always make the pun that I couldn't sink my teeth into it.
"It wasn't me, and I couldn't make it work plus I was still pretty green at that point. I was still trying to figure out my way around through this whole thing. And here I was in WWE… and I am in the ring with these guys that I've watched on TV... You know, ' Oh gosh what am I supposed to do?' And you can't have that attitude, I mean you have to have the attitude of 'I belong here' and I didn't have it at that point. It was certainly not my favorite character but now they've made a wrestling action figure out of it so I have to like it."
Source: 1-2-360 Podcast with Sean Waltman
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2018 6:30:08 GMT -5
I enjoyed the silly New Generation Era gimmicks. I know everyone hated this era but I personally thought it was one of the most fun times to be a wrestling fan. Maybe because it brings me back to my childhood...
People talk about how rubbish it was but I could go back on the Network and watch every Raw from 1994-1996. You couldn’t pay me to watch Raws from 2009-2018.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2018 7:26:21 GMT -5
Doubt anyone could've made a wrestling dentist gimmick work.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Dec 21, 2018 7:40:28 GMT -5
Doubt anyone could've made a wrestling dentist gimmick work. Britt Baker?
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Post by Spider2024 on Dec 21, 2018 7:56:08 GMT -5
"Isaac Yankem DDS" could've worked in theory. But he looked like a total goober out there. (Somehow, both intentionally AND unintentionally, he looked like a goober.) The main reason that "Kane" worked so well was that he looked ridiculously awesome. And "Fake Diesel #2" failed because the origins of said idea were stupid and petty to begin with.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Dec 21, 2018 7:59:12 GMT -5
Fake Diesel was between a rock and a hard place.
If he'd been booked as dominant, you're reminding people of the competition, so they'll switch over.
You book him as a joke gimmick, you're just making the guy playing it look bad week after week so why would anyone be interested?
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Post by Nosnorb on Dec 21, 2018 8:39:31 GMT -5
It was Fake Diesel. That's why it failed. No matter how well you mastered the 5 moves (including the Hair Flip), it was not going to work.
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Post by TGM on Dec 21, 2018 8:56:45 GMT -5
I'm so glad the Kane gimmick worked out for him because Glen Jacobs is such a prince.
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Post by Ryushinku on Dec 21, 2018 9:00:06 GMT -5
And yet, by 2001, both Fake Diesel & Razor did exactly what they needed.
Funny how that all works out, where it was always going to flop as a character and in the ring, but served its purpose and ultimately paid off huge.
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Post by Dub H on Dec 21, 2018 9:01:33 GMT -5
man that is a very polite way of saying the gimmicks were just bad.
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Dec 21, 2018 9:14:42 GMT -5
That last quote reminds me of Mark Henry’s Hall of Fame speech when instead of looking at wrestling as a career when he was first approached by Vince he was just marking out.
“Can I meet Yokozuna?”
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Post by stevec484 on Dec 21, 2018 9:20:30 GMT -5
Yankem was pretty creepy to me as a kid. Got higher on the card than he ever should have been with that gimmick.
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Post by mrbananagrabber on Dec 21, 2018 9:26:08 GMT -5
If you ever wonder why no-one ever has a bad word to say about Kane, he's talking about two terrible, sure fire failure gimmicks and saying it was his fault they failed.
People complain about him being a "Local Man" and all that crap, but if ever a guy deserved to still be making good money and getting decent spots on a card it's Glen Jacobs.
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Dec 21, 2018 10:59:44 GMT -5
And yet, by 2001, both Fake Diesel & Razor did exactly what they needed. Funny how that all works out, where it was always going to flop as a character and in the ring, but served its purpose and ultimately paid off huge. That's....a pretty enormous reach. These two characters that were around for...I think a grand total of about 8 months, had absolutely zero to do with anything that happened in 2001. By the time they were gone, WCW was still steamrolling WWF every time out.
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Dec 21, 2018 11:53:10 GMT -5
Because they were terrible dumpster fire gimmicks that nobody could ever make work, no matter how talented they are.
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Dec 21, 2018 11:55:36 GMT -5
And yet, by 2001, both Fake Diesel & Razor did exactly what they needed. Funny how that all works out, where it was always going to flop as a character and in the ring, but served its purpose and ultimately paid off huge. That's....a pretty enormous reach. These two characters that were around for...I think a grand total of about 8 months, had absolutely zero to do with anything that happened in 2001. By the time they were gone, WCW was still steamrolling WWF every time out. The resultant lawsuit ended with Vince getting the right of first refusal for WCW if it ever went for sale.
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Dec 21, 2018 13:14:43 GMT -5
That's....a pretty enormous reach. These two characters that were around for...I think a grand total of about 8 months, had absolutely zero to do with anything that happened in 2001. By the time they were gone, WCW was still steamrolling WWF every time out. The resultant lawsuit ended with Vince getting the right of first refusal for WCW if it ever went for sale. Ah....did not know that. Retracted.
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Post by Fade is a CodyCryBaby on Dec 21, 2018 13:30:31 GMT -5
Kane is just the nicest, most humble dude. I’m surprised we didn’t get a second “honestly they didn’t work, ya know, the tooth hurts” lame pun in there.
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Post by Mid-Carder on Dec 21, 2018 13:37:37 GMT -5
Source: 1-2-360 Podcast with Sean Waltman Kane and X Pac reunited! Child me is marking out.
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Post by thecrusherwi on Dec 21, 2018 14:00:06 GMT -5
Isaac Yankem never had a chance. I was 8 years old and even I thought that a wrestling dentist was stupid.
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