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Post by Doctor No on Dec 30, 2018 1:07:39 GMT -5
DC would have a leg to stand on if he wasn’t also angling for the Brock fight. Since he is, it looks like he just knows he can’t beat Jones and uses the drug testing issue to clean up his own legacy while also avoiding Jones.
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Post by hashtagdaley/JudasDay on Dec 30, 2018 1:09:01 GMT -5
Is BJ Penn going to retire before or after his record is below .500?
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Post by andrew8798 on Dec 30, 2018 1:09:52 GMT -5
What gets me is folks defend a POS who could have killed a Pregnant Woman and her unborn child and ran away from the scene.
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Post by andrew8798 on Dec 30, 2018 1:10:57 GMT -5
At least Bonds or Clemens never failed a test They didn't test for steroids until 2003. You wouldn't have even had to test Bonds' urine, just look at his head. Look game really
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Post by andrew8798 on Dec 30, 2018 1:11:44 GMT -5
Or Doc let Jones pass a god damn test
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Post by One of the Cooler, Candid TOKs on Dec 30, 2018 1:12:22 GMT -5
At least Bonds or Clemens never failed a test They didn't test for steroids until 2003. You wouldn't have even had to test Bonds' urine, just look at his head. Look wise, Bonds didn't start juicing until he already had a HOF career. Bones has always looked the same.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 30, 2018 1:12:26 GMT -5
At least Bonds or Clemens never failed a test They didn't test for steroids until 2003. You wouldn't have even had to test Bonds' urine, just look at his head. Yea, for Bonds and Clemens I cut them slack because that was the time and baseball with their BS is trying to use individuals as scapegoats
Their is no doubt Bonds was on the shit but i'd still vote him in
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Post by andrew8798 on Dec 30, 2018 1:12:55 GMT -5
The damn car Crash the UFC didn't do a damn thing to him
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Post by andrew8798 on Dec 30, 2018 1:13:46 GMT -5
They didn't test for steroids until 2003. You wouldn't have even had to test Bonds' urine, just look at his head. Yea, for Bonds and Clemens I cut them slack because that was the time and baseball with their BS is trying to use individuals as scapegoats
Their is no doubt Bonds was on the shit but i'd still vote him in
They put Bud sorry ass in the HOF while he turned a blind eye
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Post by andrew8798 on Dec 30, 2018 1:14:31 GMT -5
Hell just be like Pro wrestling they be better off
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Post by One of the Cooler, Candid TOKs on Dec 30, 2018 1:15:37 GMT -5
Hell just be like Pro wrestling they be better off WWE has a more legit drug policy than UFC after this shitshow
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Post by One of the Cooler, Candid TOKs on Dec 30, 2018 1:16:54 GMT -5
Also, the former head of the USADA straight up accused Jones of using a PED that can't be detected by the USADA due to having a ridiculously short half-life and no one is giving a f***
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 30, 2018 1:18:56 GMT -5
Hell just be like Pro wrestling they be better off The only equivalent to Jon Jones in WWE as far as 2nd chances go right now is Orton
Orton was a shit bag to people and got popped a few times but they kept him on
However, Orton never got f***ed up and hit a woman in a hit and run. He was a dick to fans and wrestlers sure but he eventually with age grew out that shit
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 30, 2018 1:19:54 GMT -5
Also, the former head of the USADA straight up accused Jones of using a PED that can't be detected by the USADA due to having a ridiculously short half-life and no one is giving a f*** Is this the one that said Bones should been suspended for 4 years like the original sentence instead of the reduced one?
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Post by sfvega on Dec 30, 2018 1:21:25 GMT -5
They didn't test for steroids until 2003. You wouldn't have even had to test Bonds' urine, just look at his head. Look wise, Bonds didn't start juicing until he already had a HOF career. Bones has always looked the same. No one is saying steroids made Bonds. Bonds is pretty clearly a guy who both was an extremely talented player in his own right and also a steroid/HGH user.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 30, 2018 1:23:58 GMT -5
DC would have a leg to stand on if he wasn’t also angling for the Brock fight. Since he is, it looks like he just knows he can’t beat Jones and uses the drug testing issue to clean up his own legacy while also avoiding Jones. He's not wrong
If you get tested and can take whatever you want and basically have no repercussions, what the hell are you fighting for? Your job is to stay clean. People are jumping through hoops to justify Bones when they need to call it like it is, he cheated and should be called out on it. Their is a legit question if he ever fought clean beforehand
Now in saying that, he can't beat Jones. However, don't get that confused with thinking he's scared because he's not but Jones is just too skilled.
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Post by sfvega on Dec 30, 2018 1:27:49 GMT -5
DC would have a leg to stand on if he wasn’t also angling for the Brock fight. Since he is, it looks like he just knows he can’t beat Jones and uses the drug testing issue to clean up his own legacy while also avoiding Jones. He's not wrong If you get tested and can take whatever you want and basically have no repercussions, what the hell are you fighting for? Your job is to stay clean. People are jumping through hoops to justify Bones when they need to call it like it is, he cheated and should be called out on it. Their is a legit question if he ever fought clean beforehand
Now in saying that, he can't beat Jones. However, don't get that confused with thinking he's scared because he's not but Jones is just too skilled.
Yeah, I don't think Cormier can beat Jones either, but after having their last fight vacated and Jones fsiling tests leading up to the Gus fight, who would blame him for not taking the fight/trusting Jones would piss clean or even just get punished for not pissing clean? If that's the case, make the fight at 205 and say that Cormier doesn't have to make weight but Jones does. Because that's what you're asking Cormier to do, playing by a different set of rules.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Dec 30, 2018 1:32:13 GMT -5
DC would have a leg to stand on if he wasn’t also angling for the Brock fight. Since he is, it looks like he just knows he can’t beat Jones and uses the drug testing issue to clean up his own legacy while also avoiding Jones. Lesnar has only failed.........once. How many has Jon failed again? Daniel may believe in second chances, but he is not believing in giving five or six chances.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 30, 2018 1:39:54 GMT -5
He's not wrong If you get tested and can take whatever you want and basically have no repercussions, what the hell are you fighting for? Your job is to stay clean. People are jumping through hoops to justify Bones when they need to call it like it is, he cheated and should be called out on it. Their is a legit question if he ever fought clean beforehand
Now in saying that, he can't beat Jones. However, don't get that confused with thinking he's scared because he's not but Jones is just too skilled.
Yeah, I don't think Cormier can beat Jones either, but after having their last fight vacated and Jones fsiling tests leading up to the Gus fight, who would blame him for not taking the fight/trusting Jones would piss clean or even just get punished for not pissing clean? If that's the case, make the fight at 205 and say that Cormier doesn't have to make weight but Jones does. Because that's what you're asking Cormier to do, playing by a different set of rules. To essentially give a simple breakdown of their fights
DC vs Bones 1 - Jones wins a 5 round UD fight. Jones tested positive for Cocaine and was only stripped of the title after the hit and run accident
DC vs Bones 2 - Cormier gets injured so fight rescheduled.
DC vs Bones 3 - Bones gets suspended for tainted male enhancement pill
DC vs Bones 4 - Jones gets the W in 3 rounds. Gets popped for PEDs after the fight and the fight is a NC
The 2 times DC has taken an L to him, Jon has f***ed it up and he got suspended when DC came off injury and they were supposed to fight again. Outside of the money obviously DC has no real incentive to take a fight with Jon Jones because as he put it, if he can take anything and make 205 he'd do it.
Add on to that Jones is still f***ing up with 2 positive test leading up to this fight. Even if you say this is stuff still lingering in his body and he's not on it anymore, that means he was on it heavy years prior.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 30, 2018 1:41:14 GMT -5
DC would have a leg to stand on if he wasn’t also angling for the Brock fight. Since he is, it looks like he just knows he can’t beat Jones and uses the drug testing issue to clean up his own legacy while also avoiding Jones. Lesnar has only failed.........once. How many has Jon failed again? Daniel may believe in second chances, but he is not believing in giving five or six chances. Also it's not like he's chasing Brock. DC has the belt and Dana is going to put Brock in front of him
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