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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Jan 10, 2019 8:28:12 GMT -5
I would imagine any album released on the same day or week as Thriller? Checking Wikipedia, the only other album that came out that same day was Three Lock Box by Sammy Hagar. That’s ruined by being Sammy Hagar.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Jan 10, 2019 9:37:15 GMT -5
U2's 'Pop' could have been really cool (and I still think it is great), but they released it basically unfinished because they had tour dates locked in.
Those early Popmart shows pale in comparison the ones just a year later.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2019 12:23:31 GMT -5
That one's unfortunate, but did it hurt its sales? It's a bit more vague in its connection than the others, who both have the Twin Towers on fire/exploding. I don't think it did actually. It charted fairly high for a Slayer album. I could see some people not being in the mood for it, but you can say that about a lot of things then. I remember someone told some years back on here were they had a t-shirt of that album name and the date which were given out as a promotion for that album. Some teacher at their school got them in trouble for it since they didn't know it was just a coincidence. Actually, it was the album art that was one of the reasons that caused the album to be delayed until 9/11. I remember it being more of a topic than the release date.
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Post by chazraps on Jan 10, 2019 17:54:41 GMT -5
Madonna released her military-themed "American Life" on the day the 2003 War in Iraq begin. What also hurt the album is that the American Life song is pretty awful (complete with Madonna doing a rap interlude). I'm going to go ahead and say it's the single worst Madonna song ever recorded.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Jan 10, 2019 18:21:37 GMT -5
Being a massive Korn kid in my youth, the wait between "Issues" and "Untouchables" felt like it took ages. "Issues" came out in '99, "Untouchables" in June of 2002. While it's only 3 years (and nothing compared to the Tool drought we're on), the popular music scene that Korn were very much apart of in the late 90s was changing a lot. On top of that, the album is one of the earlier examples of major internet leaks, as it leaked nearly 3 months before release. I still remember when that thing leaked on P2P networks, and people renamed the songs to weird stuff like "When Balls Touch" and others to clearly misheard lyrics. I guess the story is that someone swiped an early CD copy Munky had in his bag or something. The song order was different, and a few songs have intros/extended outros, but it was largely the same exact album. I remember picking 2-3 songs to d/l and then I patiently tried to wait for release day to get the real thing. Korn fans were hungry, and though the band had tons of b-sides and 4 full albums, the wait made it easy to give in to temptation and hear it early. I suspect a number of people just did that and never bought it. Anyway, sales were down for this one, and it's most definitely a combination between the scene changing along with so much time between the leak and official release. I'd definitely blame that on the shift in music then the leak. When Issues came out in Nov '99, I knew a tonne of people who bought that in the first week. But by the time Untouchables came out, I don't remember anyone but myself even talking about it. Still sold well, but the band was no longer an "in" band
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jan 10, 2019 19:19:27 GMT -5
Being a massive Korn kid in my youth, the wait between "Issues" and "Untouchables" felt like it took ages. "Issues" came out in '99, "Untouchables" in June of 2002. While it's only 3 years (and nothing compared to the Tool drought we're on), the popular music scene that Korn were very much apart of in the late 90s was changing a lot. On top of that, the album is one of the earlier examples of major internet leaks, as it leaked nearly 3 months before release. I still remember when that thing leaked on P2P networks, and people renamed the songs to weird stuff like "When Balls Touch" and others to clearly misheard lyrics. I guess the story is that someone swiped an early CD copy Munky had in his bag or something. The song order was different, and a few songs have intros/extended outros, but it was largely the same exact album. I remember picking 2-3 songs to d/l and then I patiently tried to wait for release day to get the real thing. Korn fans were hungry, and though the band had tons of b-sides and 4 full albums, the wait made it easy to give in to temptation and hear it early. I suspect a number of people just did that and never bought it. Anyway, sales were down for this one, and it's most definitely a combination between the scene changing along with so much time between the leak and official release. I'd definitely blame that on the shift in music then the leak. When Issues came out in Nov '99, I knew a tonne of people who bought that in the first week. But by the time Untouchables came out, I don't remember anyone but myself even talking about it. Still sold well, but the band was no longer an "in" band It was certainly around the beginning of the end of their time as a mainstream-relevant act. Untouchables debuted at #2, behind The Eminem Show. Just a year later, Take a Look in the Mirror debuted at #19. Then again, they haven't been mainstream-relevant in 15 years but their albums still consistently chart in the top 5, so what do I know?
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jan 10, 2019 19:33:09 GMT -5
I'd definitely blame that on the shift in music then the leak. When Issues came out in Nov '99, I knew a tonne of people who bought that in the first week. But by the time Untouchables came out, I don't remember anyone but myself even talking about it. Still sold well, but the band was no longer an "in" band It was certainly around the beginning of the end of their time as a mainstream-relevant act. Untouchables debuted at #2, behind The Eminem Show. Just a year later, Take a Look in the Mirror debuted at #19. Then again, they haven't been mainstream-relevant in 15 years but their albums still consistently chart in the top 5, so what do I know? They only made top 5 once in their last three releases, with their latest album, 2016's The Serenity of Suffering. The two albums before that (Path of Totality and Paradigm Shift) peaked at 10 and 8, respectively.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2019 20:01:22 GMT -5
It was certainly around the beginning of the end of their time as a mainstream-relevant act. Untouchables debuted at #2, behind The Eminem Show. Just a year later, Take a Look in the Mirror debuted at #19. Then again, they haven't been mainstream-relevant in 15 years but their albums still consistently chart in the top 5, so what do I know? They only made top 5 once in their last three releases, with their latest album, 2016's The Serenity of Suffering. The two albums before that (Path of Totality and Paradigm Shift) peaked at 10 and 8, respectively. And said latest album actually gave them somewhat of a resurgence in the genre as it was their best album since Issues IMHO.
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Post by wildojinx on Jan 10, 2019 20:12:01 GMT -5
Similar to U2, Testament's Souls of Black was rushed into production as they had to go on the Clash of the Titans tour.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jan 10, 2019 20:21:41 GMT -5
It was certainly around the beginning of the end of their time as a mainstream-relevant act. Untouchables debuted at #2, behind The Eminem Show. Just a year later, Take a Look in the Mirror debuted at #19. Then again, they haven't been mainstream-relevant in 15 years but their albums still consistently chart in the top 5, so what do I know? They only made top 5 once in their last three releases, with their latest album, 2016's The Serenity of Suffering. The two albums before that (Path of Totality and Paradigm Shift) peaked at 10 and 8, respectively. Yeah, I should've said top 10, which at least still speaks to the fact that they have a dedicated fan base despite being a long, long way from the public consciousness.
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Post by Jumpin' Jesse Walsh on Jan 10, 2019 22:35:02 GMT -5
Following the theme of albums being released on 9/11, Mariah Carey's Glitter soundtrack probably wouldn't have been well-received either way, but the release date was just another setback in the promotion of the movie.
Similarly, I wonder how much Macy Gray regrets wearing that dress at that year's VMAs, considering it boldly stated her next album would be released exactly a week after 9/11.
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Post by wildojinx on Jan 11, 2019 2:02:23 GMT -5
On the other hand, there was one album released on 9/11 that got a tiny bit of success. It was "Silver Side Up" by some obscure Canadian band called Nickleback.
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Post by nickcave on Jan 12, 2019 16:28:15 GMT -5
On the other hand, there was one album released on 9/11 that got a tiny bit of success. It was "Silver Side Up" by some obscure Canadian band called Nickleback. Jay-Z's The Blueprint and Bob Dylan's Love and Theft also came out on 9/11 and the release date didn't seem to slow either of those much.
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Post by marvelocity on Jan 12, 2019 17:10:35 GMT -5
U2's 'Pop' could have been really cool (and I still think it is great), but they released it basically unfinished because they had tour dates locked in. Those early Popmart shows pale in comparison the ones just a year later. Agreed, by the time they got to the Mexico City show, they were locked in.
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Post by Limity (BLM) on Jan 12, 2019 17:56:27 GMT -5
While not ruined by any means, Explosions In The Sky released an album on September 4, 2001, with a plane on the cover and the statement "this plane will crash tomorrow" in the liner notes.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Jan 12, 2019 18:25:31 GMT -5
What also hurt the album is that the American Life song is pretty awful (complete with Madonna doing a rap interlude). I'm going to go ahead and say it's the single worst Madonna song ever recorded. Worse than her wretched cover of American Pie? Aerosmith’s first album came out the same day as Springsteen’s first. The record company liked Aerosmith well enough, but Springsteen was the one they wanted. It took Aerosmith forever to get any airplay but it was years later before Dream On finally broke.
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Post by karl100589 on Jan 12, 2019 18:59:29 GMT -5
A single rather then an album. In August 1997 Dario G released "Sunchyme" in the UK with expectations of being the dance hit of the summer.
Unfortunately it was released the week of Princess Diana's death.
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