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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Jan 30, 2019 18:35:51 GMT -5
I want them to put shotgun Saturday night on the network already I never got to see it The only thing I recall was them discussing the rumors Sunny was going to be the new Bond Girl. Pillman said “They already did her character, Pussy Galore!” And my 14 or so year old mind was blown they said that on TV.
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Post by fw91 on Jan 30, 2019 18:57:13 GMT -5
i kinda like them both, except it seemed like Road Wild didn't bring in wrestling fans. Wasn't it just an excuse for Bischoff to satisfy his motorcycle fetish?
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Jan 30, 2019 23:04:49 GMT -5
I want them to put shotgun Saturday night on the network already I never got to see it Other than the Terry Funk madness, it was really bad. The wwf was going through tough times financially and it showed on Shotgun.
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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on Jan 30, 2019 23:22:24 GMT -5
Shotgun Saturday Night is such a cool concept that I feel it could still work today. Almost like a sub NXT league with occasional B list main roster stats showing up
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Jan 31, 2019 22:55:04 GMT -5
i kinda like them both, except it seemed like Road Wild didn't bring in wrestling fans. Wasn't it just an excuse for Bischoff to satisfy his motorcycle fetish? Yep, Bischoff and Hogan wanted to go to Sturgis. So it was an excuse to do it on the company dime. Road Wild was a terrible idea... I mean it had a nice look to it. But having 0 gate entry means that it was a massive expense with little return... and furthermore the drunk bikers didn't give a shit about anything going on in the ring.
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Feb 1, 2019 2:31:21 GMT -5
What I find odd about Road wild is most of the bikers I have known are huge wrestling fans. Back in the late 90s there was always 3 or 4 bikers at our monthly PPV parties.
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Post by Venti on Feb 1, 2019 9:22:28 GMT -5
I love the concept of Shotgun and wish they'd do more shows like that.
Road Wild sounds like it could be cool in theory, but nobody who was in town was there to see wrestling, they likely just watched because it was a free show and alot of them were probably drunk lol.
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Post by Heeltown, USA on Feb 2, 2019 15:40:55 GMT -5
Didn’t Shotgun only exist as wrestling in bars and clubs for like a couple months before it turned into Heat/Velocity clone?
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Post by jason1980s on Feb 2, 2019 16:08:03 GMT -5
Didn’t Shotgun only exist as wrestling in bars and clubs for like a couple months before it turned into Heat/Velocity clone? I think Shotgun was a few months or a year ahead of time which was a bad thing. WWF really wasn't ready for that type of show until about January 1998. By then, it was far removed from the bar scene. For as much as New Age Outlaws and DX got to do on Raw, they probably could've done even more over the top things on a show like Shotgun. Plus it could have started a Hardcore division a year earlier and maybe some of the guys not doing much otherwise could have had more of a chance to shine and get their characters over without much censorship. I get that Steve Austin and Brian Pillman helped start an Attitude type era in late 1996 but WWF really wasn't ready to (no pun intended) pull the trigger on Attitude Era becoming a time period like it did.
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Post by thegame415 on Feb 3, 2019 21:47:46 GMT -5
Shotgun.
Road Wild made no sense, and Bischoff just wanted an excuse to ride his motorcycle.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2019 6:22:16 GMT -5
Road Wild was a fun visual, but everything else about the concept was bad. Meanwhile Triple H got Tombstoned on an escalator, and that alone makes it the better concept.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Feb 4, 2019 6:31:48 GMT -5
I love the concept of Shotgun and wish they'd do more shows like that. Road Wild sounds like it could be cool in theory, but nobody who was in town was there to see wrestling, they likely just watched because it was a free show and alot of them were probably drunk lol. I'm surprised the last couple of year when NXT has been at the Download music festival over here that they don't film it and make a few episodes. It's a unique venue, there's generally a big crossover between wrestling and metal so the atmosphere is great.
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 4, 2019 6:45:58 GMT -5
i kinda like them both, except it seemed like Road Wild didn't bring in wrestling fans. Wasn't it just an excuse for Bischoff to satisfy his motorcycle fetish? Yep, Bischoff and Hogan wanted to go to Sturgis. So it was an excuse to do it on the company dime. Road Wild was a terrible idea... I mean it had a nice look to it. But having 0 gate entry means that it was a massive expense with little return... and furthermore the drunk bikers didn't give a shit about anything going on in the ring. It didn't help that they didn't seem to cater the show to the bikers' tastes. Like, if they did some street fights as the main draw, that'd have probably gone over better than trying to bust out a technical match in front of drunk jerkoffs. It reminds me of Foley having a match against his teacher in Nigeria, with Mick starting the match with brawling, which just seemed to not interest the crow. Dominic did a snapmare to Mick and chained it into a chinlock, and the crowd got into it and clapped, with him whispering to Mick, "Sometimes, the punch-kick don't work. Then, you gotta wrestle!", and so Mick did. This, uhh, probably would have been an appropriate time for the punch-kick. If you're not going to make money on the show, anyway, gate-wise, you can at least f*** around a bit.
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Post by willywonka666 on Feb 4, 2019 9:13:21 GMT -5
I'm a sucker for outdoor shows. Shotgun wanted to be ECW
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Post by Aceorton on Feb 4, 2019 11:54:41 GMT -5
I have a soft spot for the nightclub version of Shotgun. There was something super-exciting about that period in the WWF in very late '96/early '97 where they were trying to be more "real" and stretch their super-thin roster to keep up with WCW's explosion and the sudden emergence of a baby IWC. Vince started taking risks he never would have considered before: rougher language (not just Austin and Funk, but things like Bret losing his cool on live TV), blurred face/heel alignments, storylines built around guys just absolutely hating each other and, with Shotgun, smaller and grittier venues. The ringwork was sometimes the shits, but it felt like they were trying to do more with storytelling and leave you wondering what was going to happen next.
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Post by Jaws the Shark on Feb 5, 2019 5:38:56 GMT -5
I'm going to echo a lot of the sentiments already expressed here, I think Road Wild was probably one of the worst ideas ever conceived by WCW. It's not even just the fact that there was no gate revenue, or that the crowd was often awful, or that it existed mostly so Eric Bischoff could hang around with big men on motorcycles wearing leather on Ted Turner's money, either. What always got me about Road Wild was the sheer stupidity of having the wrestlers ride to the show on motorcycles. I remember reading WCW Magazine as a kid and there being an article on this big motorcycle ride to Sturgis, and wrestlers would invariably crash their bikes and get injured. I still can't get my head around the sheer stupidity of risking the health and safety of your talent ahead of a show by doing that.
I don't think Shotgun Saturday Night was a terrible idea at all, it had its flaws and wasn't always executed especially well, but as a concept it was kind of ahead of its time. The idea of having wrestling in an intimate nightclub setting was almost a precursor to what a lot of European indy promotions are doing now, with cards being held in music venues and standing room only shows.
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