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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2019 18:50:13 GMT -5
IF Rousey is staying and doing the same schedule as last year, then yes I agree. Build to Becky/Charlotte v Ronda/Baszler at Summerslam, the four horsemen vs match at Survivor series and Becky gets the win next year. All this while Ronda is full blown heel. There’s problems with this of course, but narratively that works for me. Because the trouble is, is if Becky takes down Ronda, what’s next? There’s the obvious feuds are Asuka and Nia, but no ones close to the name value and reaction value of Ronda. Without that enemy, I’m worried Beckys momentum will stall. It happened to Bryan in the Kane feud, even before his injury. It didn’t happen to Austin because the best stuff wa softer he won the belt. If Rousey wins AND she’s staying, the best stuff is yet to come, I know I spelt Rhonda wrong, but I don’t wanna/cba to change it, Not that she has Ronda's name value (even though I like her more), but I can see Shayna Baszler taking the title off Becky. She's ready for the call up. Shayna is badass, with a kinky af nickname. However, the trouble with her, for me, is she doesn’t have the superstar presence needed. She’s a great foil, but to use the Austin analogy, she’s the feud with Kane while the greater story is Austin-McMahon. Becky needs an ultimate villain and I don’t feel Shayna is that. If she can pull it off though, f***ing a. Also, this is all based onRhonda sticking around relatively full time. If she isn’t, then yeah Becky 100%.
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Jan 29, 2019 18:53:05 GMT -5
Wrestlemania should be where the good guys triumph over the heels in almost every match, but especially the main event.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2019 18:54:50 GMT -5
Not that she has Ronda's name value (even though I like her more), but I can see Shayna Baszler taking the title off Becky. She's ready for the call up. Shayna is badass, with a kinky af nickname. However, the trouble with her, for me, is she doesn’t have the superstar presence needed. She’s a great foil, but to use the Austin analogy, she’s the feud with Kane while the greater story is Austin-McMahon. Becky needs an ultimate villain and I don’t feel Shayna is that. If she can pull it off though, f***ing a. Also, this is all based onRhonda sticking around relatively full time. If she isn’t, then yeah Becky 100%. I feel like Becky's just so over right now, anyone who goes up against her is going to look like a super villain. haha
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jan 29, 2019 20:32:14 GMT -5
Nah. You strike while the iron is hot. Becky is over as Hell if here and Twitter are anything to go by . You capitalize on that and solidify her as a top star forever.
Couple that with those reports of Ronda leaving soon and her winning is just a terrible idea.
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Post by mrbananagrabber on Jan 29, 2019 20:42:31 GMT -5
We’ve already had her tap out to Asuka in her first title match since becoming The Man. If she lost to Ronda she’d become the female Nakamura.
WWE have potentially THE biggest woman wrestler on the planet. Not built up that way, not a star from UFC, an organic, real momentum that they have smartly capitalised on. Ronda will never be their star, Becky IS. If she loses it will be an idiotic move of gargantuan proportions.
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Post by sportatorium on Jan 29, 2019 22:40:08 GMT -5
Charlotte’s going into the match to take the pin. Becky is the most over wrestler in the company. Mania is there to send people home happy. Becky wins.
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Post by Doctor No on Jan 29, 2019 22:48:18 GMT -5
Charlotte’s going into the match to take the pin. Becky is the most over wrestler in the company. Mania is there to send people home happy. Becky wins. Wow that would be some crappy booking and a very WWE thing to do.
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Post by sportatorium on Jan 29, 2019 22:59:04 GMT -5
Charlotte’s going into the match to take the pin. Becky is the most over wrestler in the company. Mania is there to send people home happy. Becky wins. Wow that would be some crappy booking and a very WWE thing to do. So, I guess I’ll play along & ask how they should book this?
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Post by cabbageboy on Jan 29, 2019 23:18:27 GMT -5
I maintain that if they shoehorn Charlotte into this then this match won't main event the PPV. It's just too recycled. We can debate whether Charlotte would make the match better but what can't be debated is that Charlotte vs. Becky is ultra stale and been done to death, even in triple threats. It would just reinforce the whole story of Becky getting some sort of big title shot, but then Charlotte finds a way to steal the thunder.
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Post by Dub H on Jan 29, 2019 23:26:51 GMT -5
Wow that would be some crappy booking and a very WWE thing to do. So, I guess I’ll play along & ask how they should book this? Dont Include Charlotte. Ronda must eat the pin from Becky. Ther eis no point to the match if neither Becky or Ronda(and it should be Becky) are able to say "I beat you ,no excuses".
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Post by sportatorium on Jan 30, 2019 0:11:09 GMT -5
So, I guess I’ll play along & ask how they should book this? Dont Include Charlotte. Ronda must eat the pin from Becky. Ther eis no point to the match if neither Becky or Ronda(and it should be Becky) are able to say "I beat you ,no excuses". I’d actually love to be wrong, but I can’t see them having Ronda eat the pin unless she’s leaving indefinitely or turning heel. If she is just taking a little time off, they are protecting her. Charlotte is Teflon and can take the loss without any real damage.
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Post by Ryushinku on Jan 30, 2019 3:33:29 GMT -5
This isn't Austin at Mania 13, it's Austin at Mania 14. She should win.
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Post by I'm Team Bayley and Indi on Jan 30, 2019 6:13:47 GMT -5
I think in storytelling sometimes the most obvious thing should happen and it should be Becky Lynch standing tall
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Post by auph10imitated on Jan 30, 2019 6:26:37 GMT -5
If this is closing the show then Becky needs to win.
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Jan 30, 2019 6:26:51 GMT -5
Why are people so hell-bent on making a feel-good story turn sour at the last second? Ronda's been the untouchable monster of the Raw women's division since her debut, and a few non-singles losses still didn't take away the aura from the fact she's been a killer in the ring since day one. Even without the possibility of her leaving on the table, her character needs to avoid becoming the 'next Lesnar' and have a kryptonite that can take her down a few pegs. First it was Asuka and her streak, then it was company-pushed Charlotte, now it's the hottest talent on the roster in Becky. At the end of all of this, WrestleMania 34 ended flat because the heel overcame the odds. We don't need this repeated a second year in a row, especially when it is likely going to be the final match of the night. Give the people what they want, it's not that hard. A "shock win" of a champion retaining at a supershow works when you've got a champion people aren't burnt out on yet. There were people pissed when Okada beat Naito at WK12 last year, but the reaction from NJPW fans wasn't as angry as post-Brock/Roman last year. WM35 logically needs to close with a Lynch win.
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Post by honsou on Jan 30, 2019 6:36:14 GMT -5
I've only seen two WWE shows in the past 8 months and its pretty clear that Becky is the one of the few things the crowd unironically love. People are begging for an end to wrestlemania where everyone can be happy about. Her not winning in the main event would be fingerpoke of doom level mistake
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Jan 30, 2019 6:52:57 GMT -5
Why are people so hell-bent on making a feel-good story turn sour at the last second? Ronda's been the untouchable monster of the Raw women's division since her debut, and a few non-singles losses still didn't take away the aura from the fact she's been a killer in the ring since day one. Even without the possibility of her leaving on the table, her character needs to avoid becoming the 'next Lesnar' and have a kryptonite that can take her down a few pegs. First it was Asuka and her streak, then it was company-pushed Charlotte, now it's the hottest talent on the roster in Becky. At the end of all of this, WrestleMania 34 ended flat because the heel overcame the odds. We don't need this repeated a second year in a row, especially when it is likely going to be the final match of the night. Give the people what they want, it's not that hard. A "shock win" of a champion retaining at a supershow works when you've got a champion people aren't burnt out on yet. There were people pissed when Okada beat Naito at WK12 last year, but the reaction from NJPW fans wasn't as angry as post-Brock/Roman last year. WM35 logically needs to close with a Lynch win. The finish of WK12 didn't stop WK13 from selling even more tickets in the same venue. Mania might be a sellout because it's always a sellout, but it can't be argued the company is in a worse position audience-wise than they were last year with lower TV ratings, an 8% decrease in attendance as of their Q3 2018 report, and people just a little more frustrated. There's no way that Brock going over at Mania and then again just for the hell of it a few weeks later didn't contribute to that the same way ending several successive Manias on the crowd jeering and booing has effected the downward trends. Any hope WWE has of actually growing or even retaining its audience lies in actually sending the fans home happy. You can't do that having your top act eat a pin on the big stage. Even if it wasn't just story sense, it's business sense now. Okada stayed on top because he remained a draw that stayed over with the fans even though Naito fans wanted their boy to win. I was wearing an LIJ shirt watching WK12, Okada winning didn't make me tune out. By contrast I didn't even really want Roman to win and Mania ended on a note so sour I didn't buy tickets for them coming to Montreal for double header TV the week after GRR and when Lesnar retained again at GRR I swore WWE on the whole for months because I was sick and tired, and it took Summerslam to bring me back to watching and hoping it was going to finally end. Okada was a hero people by and large were willing to accept even if not everyone wanted him. Ronda ain't that right now.
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Post by clifford on Jan 30, 2019 6:59:40 GMT -5
I don't really get the OP's argument for Becky having to lose to set up a bigger payoff in the long run. Imagine if Bryan lost the main event at Wrestlemania 30, or Cena/Batista at WM 21.
Don't use Wrestlemania to further angles, to set up future pay offs. Mania should always be the climax, and when it isn't it gets shit on.
Becky is white hot now. Ronda is finishing up at Wrestlemania (Let's face it, she is, she senses the crowds are turning against her and she doesn't want to be booed). There can only be one outcome. Becky wins!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 7:12:37 GMT -5
I don't really get the OP's argument for Becky having to lose to set up a bigger payoff in the long run. Imagine if Bryan lost the main event at Wrestlemania 30, or Cena/Batista at WM 21. Don't use Wrestlemania to further angles, to set up future pay offs. Mania should always be the climax, and when it isn't it gets shit on. Becky is white hot now. Ronda is finishing up at Wrestlemania (Let's face it, she is, she senses the crowds are turning against her and she doesn't want to be booed). There can only be one outcome. Becky wins! I mean, honestly I'd say Cena would have been better off if he'd lost at Mania 21. He had dominated the whole feud, the match sucked, and the way JBL's reign ended was a total anticlimax. Having Cena get screwed over there then win the belt in the much better I Quit match would've done a lot better job of starting off on the right foot.
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Jan 30, 2019 7:27:58 GMT -5
I don't really get the OP's argument for Becky having to lose to set up a bigger payoff in the long run. Imagine if Bryan lost the main event at Wrestlemania 30, or Cena/Batista at WM 21. Don't use Wrestlemania to further angles, to set up future pay offs. Mania should always be the climax, and when it isn't it gets shit on. Becky is white hot now. Ronda is finishing up at Wrestlemania (Let's face it, she is, she senses the crowds are turning against her and she doesn't want to be booed). There can only be one outcome. Becky wins! I mean, honestly I'd say Cena would have been better off if he'd lost at Mania 21. He had dominated the whole feud, the match sucked, and the way JBL's reign ended was a total anticlimax. Having Cena get screwed over there then win the belt in the much better I Quit match would've done a lot better job of starting off on the right foot. No, Mania 21 was the right time. They just should have put on that amazing I Quit match at WrestleMania. Cena celebrating in the crowd is a legendary visual, but they put on the match that everyone remembers a month later.
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