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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2019 23:13:16 GMT -5
It's similar to how SRS Jericho was the losses didn't kill him because he could still get people to hate him just by talking. Yea, goes to show you how important mic skills can be because it can be life and death for a character Ziggler gets played so much because he cuts the same tired promo no matter the situation
Every Ziggler promo is like a Kendrick Lamar track from 2011-2013. "Yeah I've been down. Yeah I've been out. But you can't BEAT ME! I'M THE BEST!! I SWEAR I'LL GET BACK TO WHERE I NEED TO BE OR ELSE I'LL-"
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2019 23:36:42 GMT -5
Wwe truly has 50/50 booking. Not just wins and losses. Outside of the few chosen ones, no one gets elevated. They see that Joe's Power Level can remain where it's at due to presence and mic game, so they use that to *in theory* elevate credibility of others, instead of ramping up his credibility by having him beat the Reigns, Lesnars and Ortons.It's asinine but is what it is. Yep. It says a lot that each time Joe cuts a promo we have a thread about it because we know his worth. We know what he can bring to the table and we know he can do what it takes but at the same time they keep having him lose these major matches. Joe beats the Jeff Hardys, he beats the Alis, he beats those midcard guys but he's not the guy beating the AJs or the Romans or the Seths and given this he continues to stay in this cycle where it's to a point to where if you beat Joe then it doesn't really matter because he doesn't really beat anyone who doesn't matter. That doesn't help anyone involved.
If I were WWE I'd straight up have Joe in these high profiled feuds against the uppercard faces and win before he eventually gets the title later 2019. He's already gone against AJ so that's out of the question, already beaten Ali, already beaten Jeff, now he needs to go against other faces on SDL but that brings the question as to who he can face. Who? He's already beaten the guys "who don't matter" so he's stuck in a holding pattern unless he goes face. Now face Joe? Put him on Randy. Put him on a returning Wyatt even. Put him on Rowan before he faces Bryan. Eventually put him against Bryan for the belt.
Joe can do it. The problem is they don't see Joe as the guy we know he is so he's called a bitch by us.
Then Joe comes out there the next week and gets the mic and says "I'm a bitch but I can still drop a fire verse" and we're stuck in this cycle lol. It sucks.
Amazingly said dood! Feel ya on everything, at this point I try to believe Joe himself just wants to perform for WWE and collect money after a lengthy career. He always brings his A game and seems to have SOME creative freedom (no way did a writer think up that triple A AA line) so he's not in the CMPunk and Dean camp of "dead inside and only a matter of time until he injures self or others". Edit: above KN post I am dead. "Uh... sir... we only asked that you pull ahead because it's going to be an extra 5 minutes for your chicken nuggets".
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Feb 1, 2019 0:39:19 GMT -5
Yea, goes to show you how important mic skills can be because it can be life and death for a character Ziggler gets played so much because he cuts the same tired promo no matter the situation
Every Ziggler promo is like a Kendrick Lamar track from 2011-2013. "Yeah I've been down. Yeah I've been out. But you can't BEAT ME! I'M THE BEST!! I SWEAR I'LL GET BACK TO WHERE I NEED TO BE OR ELSE I'LL-"Yea, people role their eyes at Ziggler because how many times could you hear the same old tired thing
Samoa Joe comes out there with new material every night and if he's reusing it, it's always in different context (Wendy). Calling yourself an underdog after damn near 10 years is insane. Look at Rey, he said f*** that underdog label, i'm going to embrace my legendary status
This no doubt shows you how much trust they have in Joe as the vet which SD in general trust their guys with mic time. No f***ing way writers is coming up with the promos DB is cutting and the lines Joe throws out on the fly
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