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Post by romanstylesiii on Jan 31, 2019 2:25:54 GMT -5
The people avoiding eliminations through loopholes was cool at first, but has been worn out.
The way they are using these rules are dumb. How is landing on Woods not the same as two feet hitting the ground? With this logic, no one has ever been eliminated, because everyone is wearing shoes.
Also, in literally every other sport, if you touch someone or something that is out of bounds, you yourself are considered out of bounds.
Maybe Kofi can put a plastic wrap on the bottom of his shoes next year, so he can technically never be eliminated.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2019 2:36:42 GMT -5
This year they went overboard with the saves. What used to be something Kofi did once every Rumble turned into something everyone's doing to the point where even small saves (say a guy barely hangs off a rope) looks stupid. They need to tone it down heavy because these days how wrestlers save themselves are becoming more important than the stories in the match. What's worse is the fact that immediately after they save themselves they get eliminated. You mean to tell me you can't use the momentum you used to save yourself to say in the match? You mean to tell me you're so hyped about being saved you miss your opponent eliminating you?
Yeah, aight.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Jan 31, 2019 2:41:58 GMT -5
The people avoiding eliminations through loopholes was cool at first, but has been worn out. The way they are using these rules are dumb. How is landing on Woods not the same as two feet hitting the ground? With this logic, no one has ever been eliminated, because everyone is wearing shoes. Also, in literally every other sport, if you touch someone or something that is out of bounds, you yourself are considered out of bounds. Maybe Kofi can put a plastic wrap on the bottom of his shoes next year, so he can technically never be eliminated. Seriously if that's the case... start the match with your shoes off and wait until the bell rings to put them on... that way what you were wearing never hit the floor! I don't mind the like Announce tables or Railing or whatever.... but like the Pancakes or no I'm laying on my back with my legs in the air and I'll reverse crawl to the steps is ridiculous and doesn't particularly look impressive. |
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 31, 2019 2:42:28 GMT -5
The people avoiding eliminations through loopholes was cool at first, but has been worn out. The way they are using these rules are dumb. How is landing on Woods not the same as two feet hitting the ground? With this logic, no one has ever been eliminated, because everyone is wearing shoes. Also, in literally every other sport, if you touch someone or something that is out of bounds, you yourself are considered out of bounds. Maybe Kofi can put a plastic wrap on the bottom of his shoes next year, so he can technically never be eliminated. He'd be entering with the plastic wrap as part of his gear, so it'd still count, same as boots do. It's the same excuse they've used before where someone grabs IRS's tie and yanks on it, but doesn't get DQ'd or admonished for it. They do need to dial back the spots, though I am more annoyed by the abuse of having guys and ladies lounging outside the ring for long periods. It gets overdone. This year wasn't as bad about it as 2018's women's rumble, where I swear, some women spent more time out of the ring than in it. |
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Jan 31, 2019 2:54:33 GMT -5
Yeah the pancake spot was the "ok you're doing too much" moment for me.
The sleeping outside seriously needs to be addressed. Stop going for marathon man stories if you're gonna have your dudes and ladies nap through it.
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Post by Perfect Timing on Jan 31, 2019 5:58:46 GMT -5
I wouldn't want them to change it up too much. The most obvious thing to change would be that anyone that has been eliminated can not eliminate someone else.
The save sports in the womens Rumble I enjoyed, Naomi and Catanzaro were entertaining. Kofi has jumped the shark now and should just be eliminated normally now every year.
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Post by mrbananagrabber on Jan 31, 2019 10:03:11 GMT -5
I know it doesn't really matter, but why would anyone enter the ring? If Billie Kay can refuse to get in the ring until her partner is called out, and nothing is done about it, if people can go out the middle rope and hide under the ring and that's ok.. why would anyone do it legit?
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Jan 31, 2019 10:07:12 GMT -5
It fine but yes I felt it was over done this year, and while fun to watch what really the point when you don't win? Kofi done it for years and everyone praises the guy on camera but they fail to talk about the most important things, he never won.
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Post by Pooh Carlson on Jan 31, 2019 10:26:33 GMT -5
The Kofi doing crazy save spots became dumb as soon as they made it a thing of "WHAT'S KOFI GONNA DO THIS YEAR?!?" and now he's pretty much recycling stuff, not to mention the women doing things he's already done. Stop having Naomi do the same thing! It makes what Kofi's done less special.
But regarding rules, at one point they had a rule that if the next person entered the rumble before you did, you're eliminated. That's how a few people that got attacked were said to be eliminated. That should be a set rule.
And I don't mind guys purposely going under the bottom rope but the refs should force them back in the ring. For a heel to go under the ring and hide right in front of the ref's face is ridiculous.
But the rumble rules are fluid based on the story the writers want to tell anyway, so none of it matters. It's entirely possible that everything I just brought up could be rules next year and then not rules the year after.
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Post by Pushed to the Moon on Jan 31, 2019 10:26:52 GMT -5
If you don't get in the ring before the next entrant then you're eliminated.
You're only allowed to voluntarily leave the ring once and you have 5 seconds to get back in or you're eliminated.
The "one foot" rule only applies if you're still touching the ring.
To stop the "drag someone out and put them through a table so they can make a shocking comeback later" thing, if you're already eliminated and pull someone else out of the ring you're suspended for 30 days. Or banned from the next Rumble. Or all Rumbles forever. Or fired. I haven't decided yet.
I'm pitching it as "The Strictest Royal Rumble" in Saudi Arabia with as many rules as possible!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2019 10:28:25 GMT -5
The rule should be that you're eliminated when thrown clear of the ring.
AND...
If you go between the ropes, you get a 10 count to get back into the ring.
AND...
If you haven't entered the ring before the buzzer sounds for the next entry, you're out.
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Post by sunnytaker on Jan 31, 2019 10:28:52 GMT -5
I know it doesn't really matter, but why would anyone enter the ring? If Billie Kay can refuse to get in the ring until her partner is called out, and nothing is done about it, if people can go out the middle rope and hide under the ring and that's ok.. why would anyone do it legit? that would be amusing- everyone goes up to the ring but no one actually enters so they can't get eliminated. then you have all 30 people standing outside brawling and the rumble never ends. think of all the records they would have for next year's rumble stats package! |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2019 11:00:07 GMT -5
The sleeping outside seriously needs to be addressed. Stop going for marathon man stories if you're gonna have your dudes and ladies nap through it. I have no problem at all with the saves, but this has go to go, ASAP. |
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Post by TheMediocreWarrior on Jan 31, 2019 11:23:04 GMT -5
-A wrestler must be eliminated by someone who is in the match. Already eliminated opponents and non-participants don't count.
-Being thrown to the floor eliminates you, period. Over the ropes or through the ropes, just like in the N64 games. I wish they did less of the "wrestler went under the ropes, he's still okay" stuff. If I could make changes to the Rumble, the floor is lava, no matter what the circumstance is. Unless the person tossing you out is not currently in the match.
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Post by mcstoklasa on Jan 31, 2019 11:27:12 GMT -5
If you land flat on your f***ing back but oh look my feet aren’t on the mat.. you’re out! Oh but I can crawl with my arms and put my feet on the steps so I’m still in. No, bugger off. You’re gone.
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Post by MrElijah on Jan 31, 2019 12:14:55 GMT -5
This year they went overboard with the saves. What used to be something Kofi did once every Rumble turned into something everyone's doing to the point where even small saves (say a guy barely hangs off a rope) looks stupid. They need to tone it down heavy because these days how wrestlers save themselves are becoming more important than the stories in the match. What's worse is the fact that immediately after they save themselves they get eliminated. You mean to tell me you can't use the momentum you used to save yourself to say in the match? You mean to tell me you're so hyped about being saved you miss your opponent eliminating you? Yeah, aight. It's the moment/highlight nonsense that dictates the booking. Ever since Morrison they want recapture that magic. Give me a strong story any day. |
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Post by JCBaggee on Jan 31, 2019 12:19:04 GMT -5
Yeah, the two feet rule should be updated. It's technically a holdover from when skinning the cat was a cool move.
"Thrown over the top rope and cannot reasonably re-enter the ring unaided" would be the easiest way to word it, while still allowing enough leeway for the occasional cool escape spot.
While we're at it, I'd also add in a ref can allow you to re-enter the ring if they see you thrown out by a competitor who isn't in the Rumble. Jesus, that one is tired.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2019 12:27:43 GMT -5
Eh, I'm cynical enough to let these guys keep doing the spots because they aren't going to win and they need something to get over.
It will never go back to what it once was, but having the winner get a title shot of their choice pretty much eliminates 95% of the booking options. Might as well let someone as talented as Kofi, who seemingly will never get that main event push, do something to standout which, of course, is the irony with the save spot being written into things and having others do their save spots.
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Post by beefy on Jan 31, 2019 13:14:17 GMT -5
Change the rules, eh?
Okay, so instead of everyone throwing each other out of the ring... everyone STARTS on the outside, right? And then you gotta keep your opponent from getting into the ring!
More? Okay. After a certain number of people make it into the ring, then they have to be thrown OUT of the ring!
You’re drooling, this sounds great I know, but like a 3 course fondue dinner it gets better: when there are only 2 men left? Winner is decided by PINFALL or SUBMISSION.
It’s money.
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Post by cosmo on Jan 31, 2019 13:19:26 GMT -5
I know it doesn't really matter, but why would anyone enter the ring? If Billie Kay can refuse to get in the ring until her partner is called out, and nothing is done about it, if people can go out the middle rope and hide under the ring and that's ok.. why would anyone do it legit?
I actually wish they'd had Peyton come out at #25 or some other crazy late number just to see how long they could've pushed Billie roaming around ringside.
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