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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2019 13:40:51 GMT -5
My fear is that we have 2 months till Mania, that's a long time. Becky has been getting the best reactions of not only the women but the men as well. People are talking about Becky. But wrestling fans are fickle(no pun intended). The slightest wrong move, having Becky side with Steph or have Steph emaculate her, will absolutely drive casuals away.
WWE needs to play this absolutely right in every step. They can't have Becky looking weak because the average fan at home won't stick around for 2 months if Becky gets abused by everyone around her.I didn't express this as well as I thought but I want Becky to have a Daniel Bryan type WrestleMania. She deserves it and I have reservations that WWE will really keep her at the top in favor of someone like a Ronda or Charlotte. I haven't been this invested in the product since punk and they royally screwed him too. So I have my doubts unfortunately. If Becky becomes emasculated then she's actually having the Daniel Bryan style Wrestlemania build. People look at the WM30 ending but the entire run of that had Bryan getting his ass beat regardless of what he did prior. Bryan won matches but it was always turned on him the next night. Becky on the other hand has been thwarting damn near everyone besides Asuka and Ronda at TLC when she fell off the ladder. Right now Becky's booked INCREDIBLY strong. I see a lot of people saying they fear for Becky but what people need to address is her booking right now is on some Reigns-like level of booking. She's really going over everyone and making them look bad to the point where Ronda looks bad. Hypothetically say Stephanie rips into Becky, that's not going to suddenly drastically change how Becky's booking has been these past 6 months.
What I wanna know is how strong people want Becky to be booked because even Austin in his prime wasn't beating and embarrassing everyone as much as Becky right now. Even on last week's SDL Becky (with a damaged leg) ended up popping Charlotte in the face and still ended up on top of a blind-sided beatdown by her. That's crazy.
I also think we need to break up the "casual wrestling fan" and the "semi-hardcore fan" because casuals don't care about wins and losses the way mostly "semi-hardcore fan" does. When I mean semi-hardcore fan I mean the fans that dip in and dip out but care about it more than the regular casual fans do. Those type of fans are the ones more concerned with the booking results, the future of the program, things like that. Casuals only care as things are going on so in this case I don't think casuals are caring much about these Becky responses as you're saying. You might care but I think you're more of the semi-hardcore fan than the casual fan.
Like the Punk stuff, I don't think casuals cared much about that compared to the semi-hardcore and of course the hardcore fans.
But either way, Becky's booking is crazy right now. Her booking isn't fragile enough to where one bad segment can throw everyone off her and if so then it goes back to fans being fickle but considering that's the case, that wouldn't be on the company. It's on fans not looking at the whole involving the wrestler but only looking at the then and now.
Well she lost clean to Asuka at the Rumble in fairness, but I still agree with your points. For me it just comes down to that the Becky Lynch character has been one of the best booked characters WWE"s had in a long time, like, exceptionally strong booking, without even grading on a WWE curve. I see how much people stress about when the other foot's gonna drop and it's like, the burden of wrestling fans is we're gonna be paying attention to this stuff anyways, if you can't enjoy what you're getting with her right now because you're worried for the future then when can you really look forward to anything in WWE? Stephanie McMahon's a really great performer and their track record with Becky has been more than spot on so there's potential for this to be an awesome segment, and maybe a feud. There is also a possibility that it could be bad too, but the fans seem to have her back so if they misstep and backtrack into "you don't really like her do you?" booking (which there hasn't been a trace of since her initial turn) it seems like it's only gonna make her following stronger. It's just odd how riled people get about Becky's booking when it's been so good.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2019 13:58:28 GMT -5
If Becky becomes emasculated then she's actually having the Daniel Bryan style Wrestlemania build. People look at the WM30 ending but the entire run of that had Bryan getting his ass beat regardless of what he did prior. Bryan won matches but it was always turned on him the next night. Becky on the other hand has been thwarting damn near everyone besides Asuka and Ronda at TLC when she fell off the ladder. Right now Becky's booked INCREDIBLY strong. I see a lot of people saying they fear for Becky but what people need to address is her booking right now is on some Reigns-like level of booking. She's really going over everyone and making them look bad to the point where Ronda looks bad. Hypothetically say Stephanie rips into Becky, that's not going to suddenly drastically change how Becky's booking has been these past 6 months.
What I wanna know is how strong people want Becky to be booked because even Austin in his prime wasn't beating and embarrassing everyone as much as Becky right now. Even on last week's SDL Becky (with a damaged leg) ended up popping Charlotte in the face and still ended up on top of a blind-sided beatdown by her. That's crazy.
I also think we need to break up the "casual wrestling fan" and the "semi-hardcore fan" because casuals don't care about wins and losses the way mostly "semi-hardcore fan" does. When I mean semi-hardcore fan I mean the fans that dip in and dip out but care about it more than the regular casual fans do. Those type of fans are the ones more concerned with the booking results, the future of the program, things like that. Casuals only care as things are going on so in this case I don't think casuals are caring much about these Becky responses as you're saying. You might care but I think you're more of the semi-hardcore fan than the casual fan.
Like the Punk stuff, I don't think casuals cared much about that compared to the semi-hardcore and of course the hardcore fans.
But either way, Becky's booking is crazy right now. Her booking isn't fragile enough to where one bad segment can throw everyone off her and if so then it goes back to fans being fickle but considering that's the case, that wouldn't be on the company. It's on fans not looking at the whole involving the wrestler but only looking at the then and now.
Well she lost clean to Asuka at the Rumble in fairness, but I still agree with your points. For me it just comes down to that the Becky Lynch character has been one of the best booked characters WWE"s had in a long time, like, exceptionally strong booking, without even grading on a WWE curve. I see how much people stress about when the other foot's gonna drop and it's like, the burden of wrestling fans is we're gonna be paying attention to this stuff anyways, if you can't enjoy what you're getting with her right now because you're worried for the future then when can you really look forward to anything in WWE? Stephanie McMahon's a really great performer and their track record with Becky has been more than spot on so there's potential for this to be an awesome segment, and maybe a feud. There is also a possibility that it could be bad too, but the fans seem to have her back so if they misstep and backtrack into "you don't really like her do you?" booking (which there hasn't been a trace of since her initial turn) it seems like it's only gonna make her following stronger. It's just odd how riled people get about Becky's booking when it's been so good. Yep that's what I'm saying. Becky's booking was already very strong prior to that Nia Jax punch and turn and it's just been as great as can be for her. It goes back into the "live in the moment" phrase because, as you said, people are so worried about her future that they're not paying attention to what's happening now. Even looking into the future towards the WM match, regardless of what it'll be Becky isn't losing that match. I know people are afraid but they aren't going to have Becky lose that match especially with Ronda leaving and how on fire Becky is. It's just not going to happen and even the storyline going on right now doesn't dictate that.
I definitely do think this Stephanie thing can lead to great things for Becky and her. I wouldn't even be surprised at a Summerslam match between Becky and Stephanie setting up the debut of Shayna as the enforcer giving Becky another task later on this year. There's so many twists and turns we can do with Becky that'll keep her at the top of the division even when she's not holding the belt once that time comes and I look forward to it. I don't see how they can do any wrong with Becky. If they keep pushing her hard then hey they're pushing her hard. If they don't and fans get upset then it's more support for her.
I agree, Becky's booking is something I don't think anyone needs to worry about. She's not Balor, she's not Asuka, I mean if you worry about her booking then I hope you worry more about everyone else's booking in the company.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2019 14:39:21 GMT -5
Yeah, Becky’s booking has been damn good since the week after the turn, in my opinion. For as much shit as most give Charlotte due to her being Vince’s favorite or being blonde or whatever, she’s gotten the short end of the stick this whole time in 2018. She got (and still gets) her ass kicked, standing tall once. She’s been beaten and thwarted by Becky on multiple occasions. Plus, she’s turned heel. They’re not going to let a heel close out Mania. (Dont throw the Lesnar example as they only did it due to the crowd being indifferent. That won’t be the case here.)
This Stephanie segment can only benefit Becky and the underdog narrative that they’re telling, especially since the goal of the triple threat is to get Becky over. It isn’t going to go to Charlotte as she’s the heel, it isn’t going to Ronda if she’s taking time off after Mania. It’s going to be about Becky and how she overcame her struggle. Its going to be a feel good moment that I hope most hardcores can look past Charlotte being in it or Stephanie McMahon asking Becky to come to Raw.
At some point, and this isn’t about just Becky, we just have to go with the flow and then be outraged if they mess it up. To me, it’s better than dismissing all of this and being preemptively angry the whole ride.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Feb 3, 2019 15:55:17 GMT -5
Here's the silver lining- Becky can actually hit Stephanie. So if they really want to heat this up, they can have Steph do her usual scolding routine only for Becky to no-sell it and lay her out.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2019 17:59:31 GMT -5
WWE always finds new ways to make me not care about things even faster than before.
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Post by schma on Feb 3, 2019 20:21:32 GMT -5
If Becky becomes emasculated then she's actually having the Daniel Bryan style Wrestlemania build. People look at the WM30 ending but the entire run of that had Bryan getting his ass beat regardless of what he did prior. Bryan won matches but it was always turned on him the next night. Becky on the other hand has been thwarting damn near everyone besides Asuka and Ronda at TLC when she fell off the ladder. Right now Becky's booked INCREDIBLY strong. I see a lot of people saying they fear for Becky but what people need to address is her booking right now is on some Reigns-like level of booking. She's really going over everyone and making them look bad to the point where Ronda looks bad. Hypothetically say Stephanie rips into Becky, that's not going to suddenly drastically change how Becky's booking has been these past 6 months.
What I wanna know is how strong people want Becky to be booked because even Austin in his prime wasn't beating and embarrassing everyone as much as Becky right now. Even on last week's SDL Becky (with a damaged leg) ended up popping Charlotte in the face and still ended up on top of a blind-sided beatdown by her. That's crazy.
I also think we need to break up the "casual wrestling fan" and the "semi-hardcore fan" because casuals don't care about wins and losses the way mostly "semi-hardcore fan" does. When I mean semi-hardcore fan I mean the fans that dip in and dip out but care about it more than the regular casual fans do. Those type of fans are the ones more concerned with the booking results, the future of the program, things like that. Casuals only care as things are going on so in this case I don't think casuals are caring much about these Becky responses as you're saying. You might care but I think you're more of the semi-hardcore fan than the casual fan.
Like the Punk stuff, I don't think casuals cared much about that compared to the semi-hardcore and of course the hardcore fans.
But either way, Becky's booking is crazy right now. Her booking isn't fragile enough to where one bad segment can throw everyone off her and if so then it goes back to fans being fickle but considering that's the case, that wouldn't be on the company. It's on fans not looking at the whole involving the wrestler but only looking at the then and now.
Well she lost clean to Asuka at the Rumble in fairness, but I still agree with your points. For me it just comes down to that the Becky Lynch character has been one of the best booked characters WWE"s had in a long time, like, exceptionally strong booking, without even grading on a WWE curve. I see how much people stress about when the other foot's gonna drop and it's like, the burden of wrestling fans is we're gonna be paying attention to this stuff anyways, if you can't enjoy what you're getting with her right now because you're worried for the future then when can you really look forward to anything in WWE? Stephanie McMahon's a really great performer and their track record with Becky has been more than spot on so there's potential for this to be an awesome segment, and maybe a feud. There is also a possibility that it could be bad too, but the fans seem to have her back so if they misstep and backtrack into "you don't really like her do you?" booking (which there hasn't been a trace of since her initial turn) it seems like it's only gonna make her following stronger. It's just odd how riled people get about Becky's booking when it's been so good. The problem is, the other foot has dropped so many times we know it's coming. It's kind of like Spider-man. Yeah he might get a few years in the comcis where things are actually going pretty good for him, he's finally got his life together and all that but you know at some point some out of touch Marvel exec is going to say no, Peter shouldn't be successful, that's not the Peter I grew up with. Then something happens to move him back to the bad luck Peter state where his life is in shambles and everyone just kinda pities him.
We're worried the other foot is going to drop because in so many cases with WWE it has. We don't trust them to do the right or smart thing because so often they don't.
That said, I really enjoy what I'm getting from Becky. I just can't for the life of me think of anyone who has come out of a feud or even segment with Stephanie looking better apart from maybe Ronda.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2019 20:29:18 GMT -5
Well she lost clean to Asuka at the Rumble in fairness, but I still agree with your points. For me it just comes down to that the Becky Lynch character has been one of the best booked characters WWE"s had in a long time, like, exceptionally strong booking, without even grading on a WWE curve. I see how much people stress about when the other foot's gonna drop and it's like, the burden of wrestling fans is we're gonna be paying attention to this stuff anyways, if you can't enjoy what you're getting with her right now because you're worried for the future then when can you really look forward to anything in WWE? Stephanie McMahon's a really great performer and their track record with Becky has been more than spot on so there's potential for this to be an awesome segment, and maybe a feud. There is also a possibility that it could be bad too, but the fans seem to have her back so if they misstep and backtrack into "you don't really like her do you?" booking (which there hasn't been a trace of since her initial turn) it seems like it's only gonna make her following stronger. It's just odd how riled people get about Becky's booking when it's been so good. The problem is, the other foot has dropped so many times we know it's coming. It's kind of like Spider-man. Yeah he might get a few years in the comcis where things are actually going pretty good for him, he's finally got his life together and all that but you know at some point some out of touch Marvel exec is going to say no, Peter shouldn't be successful, that's not the Peter I grew up with. Then something happens to move him back to the bad luck Peter state where his life is in shambles and everyone just kinda pities him. We're worried the other foot is going to drop because in so many cases with WWE it has. We don't trust them to do the right or smart thing because so often they don't. That said, I really enjoy what I'm getting from Becky. I just can't for the life of me think of anyone who has come out of a feud or even segment with Stephanie looking better apart from maybe Ronda.
Trish and Ronda are the only ones I can think of.
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Post by Slingshot Suplay on Feb 3, 2019 20:54:18 GMT -5
Becky calls herself the Man. Stephanie Emasculates men. Stephanie is gonna super-slap becky.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2019 21:03:40 GMT -5
Well she lost clean to Asuka at the Rumble in fairness, but I still agree with your points. For me it just comes down to that the Becky Lynch character has been one of the best booked characters WWE"s had in a long time, like, exceptionally strong booking, without even grading on a WWE curve. I see how much people stress about when the other foot's gonna drop and it's like, the burden of wrestling fans is we're gonna be paying attention to this stuff anyways, if you can't enjoy what you're getting with her right now because you're worried for the future then when can you really look forward to anything in WWE? Stephanie McMahon's a really great performer and their track record with Becky has been more than spot on so there's potential for this to be an awesome segment, and maybe a feud. There is also a possibility that it could be bad too, but the fans seem to have her back so if they misstep and backtrack into "you don't really like her do you?" booking (which there hasn't been a trace of since her initial turn) it seems like it's only gonna make her following stronger. It's just odd how riled people get about Becky's booking when it's been so good. The problem is, the other foot has dropped so many times we know it's coming. It's kind of like Spider-man. Yeah he might get a few years in the comcis where things are actually going pretty good for him, he's finally got his life together and all that but you know at some point some out of touch Marvel exec is going to say no, Peter shouldn't be successful, that's not the Peter I grew up with. Then something happens to move him back to the bad luck Peter state where his life is in shambles and everyone just kinda pities him.
We're worried the other foot is going to drop because in so many cases with WWE it has. We don't trust them to do the right or smart thing because so often they don't.
That said, I really enjoy what I'm getting from Becky. I just can't for the life of me think of anyone who has come out of a feud or even segment with Stephanie looking better apart from maybe Ronda.
On the other hand, just like we don’t know if they’re going to flow with these thing perfectly, we have zero clue if they’re going to drop the ball. You can use past examples, but they’ve had tons of opportunities to get it right and they have. Idk, I guess I’m trying to say give them a chance? I totally get why most would be untrustworthy of the company, but what more do they need to do to show that they’re fully behind Becky? They’ve had her beat Charlotte numerous times, turned her into an anti hero, and are no longer shying away from the cheers. Plus, she has five shirt made of her now and is getting her slogan passed around for signs at live events.
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Post by JoDaNa1281 on Feb 4, 2019 0:36:29 GMT -5
If this means that Becky points a toy gun to Stephanie, only for the end result to be a "Bang!" banner to come out of said gun and for Stephanie to tinkle herself in fear, then I am all for it... Please let Becky drive a zamboni into the arena and beat the piss out of Stephanie. Nice to see some people's fetishes come to light 😉
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2019 1:13:49 GMT -5
I only want either of these two things to happen My idea from a couple days ago where Steph's being a face to Becky and ends up getting put in the Dis-Arm-Her and Ronda's armbar anyway. Or DANCE OFF!
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Post by Big DSR Energy on Feb 4, 2019 1:50:30 GMT -5
Read the thread title but haven't read any of the posts. Has anybody posted a pic of Admiral Ackbar saying "IT'S A TRAP!"?
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Post by bearned on Feb 4, 2019 20:11:08 GMT -5
Becky will limp down to the ring, Steph will tell her until she gets her knee checked out she ain’t getting a match with Ronnie and then Becky kicks her ass and is taken away by security. CALLED IT!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Slanted and Enchanted on Feb 4, 2019 21:58:31 GMT -5
Very McMahon/Austin '97 vibes in that segment. Interesting.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2019 23:03:29 GMT -5
If Steph's going to be around I'd rather she be a face, but I can't blame anyone for not trusting her or any other McMahon.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2019 23:16:50 GMT -5
Yeah, I’m seeing tons saying it doesn’t make sense, but it honestly does.
You’ve got Stephanie McMahon, the most shadiest person who doesn’t have the best track record, trying to play nice and save Wrestlemania with Becky. Logically, Becky just isn’t buying it and has already been sidelined by doctors once, and she isn’t going to do it again.
Then, when Stephanie’s true colors began to show (“Why are you being so thick headed,”) Becky was having none of it and chose to attack Stephanie. And again, her true colors reared their ugly heads by kicking the injured knee of Becky.
That segment was done to perfection. Reminded me (not saying it is) of Austin/Vince with Becky not playing nice with Stephanie and whooping the security’s asses.
I also found it interesting that Ronda wanted Becky to be suspended indefinitely for harming Stephanie and claimed to be the professional, yet lashed out at the crowd and cracked. Nice subtly.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2019 23:18:25 GMT -5
Yeah, I’m seeing tons saying it doesn’t make sense, but it honestly does. You’ve got Stephanie McMahon, the most shadiest person who doesn’t have the best track record, trying to play nice and save Wrestlemania with Becky. Logically, Becky just isn’t buying it and has already been sidelined by doctors once, and she isn’t going to do it again. Then, when Stephanie’s true colors began to show (“Why are you being so thick headed,”) Becky was having none of it and chose to attack Stephanie. And again, her true colors reared their ugly heads by kicking the injured knee of Becky. That segment was done to perfection. Reminded me (not saying it is) of Austin/Vince with Becky not playing nice with Stephanie and whooping the security’s asses. I also found it interesting that Ronda wanted Becky to be suspended indefinitely for harming Stephanie and claimed to be the professional, yet lashed out at the crowd and cracked. Nice subtly. Wait, wut? I missed that somehow. If true, it's funny coming from the woman who has attacked Steph how many times? I hope Ronda's turning heel.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2019 23:20:41 GMT -5
We're definitely getting that triple threat tho, absolutely. Charlotte's going to be slid into that position.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2019 23:22:50 GMT -5
Yeah, I’m seeing tons saying it doesn’t make sense, but it honestly does. You’ve got Stephanie McMahon, the most shadiest person who doesn’t have the best track record, trying to play nice and save Wrestlemania with Becky. Logically, Becky just isn’t buying it and has already been sidelined by doctors once, and she isn’t going to do it again. Then, when Stephanie’s true colors began to show (“Why are you being so thick headed,”) Becky was having none of it and chose to attack Stephanie. And again, her true colors reared their ugly heads by kicking the injured knee of Becky. That segment was done to perfection. Reminded me (not saying it is) of Austin/Vince with Becky not playing nice with Stephanie and whooping the security’s asses. I also found it interesting that Ronda wanted Becky to be suspended indefinitely for harming Stephanie and claimed to be the professional, yet lashed out at the crowd and cracked. Nice subtly. Wait, wut? I missed that somehow. If true, it's funny coming from the woman who has attacked Steph how many times? I hope Ronda's turning heel. I swear I heard Corey say something about Ronda wanting Becky suspended lol
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Post by Doctor No on Feb 4, 2019 23:23:01 GMT -5
They went to Steph/Becky getting physical way too soon. Story wise, they didn’t earn it.
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