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Post by TheDieselTrain on Mar 4, 2019 19:52:58 GMT -5
Victoria!!!!!!!! Not Torrie!!!!!!! she’s never gonna get her due
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2019 23:39:15 GMT -5
My one main concern this year, which is a general issue, is the Legacy Wing. I kinda got into a bit of a misunderstanding with Vader's son on Twitter because I was pretty steamed about Torrie's induction and was commenting to someone that WWE tends to limit posthumous inductions to no more than one person per year for the main ceremony, but for Legacy inductions, everyone can be dead, and it doesn't bother them (my actual words were a bit more blunt due to the fact that Twitter's character limits make speaking more difficult and interpretations are of the eye of the beholder). This is the issue some people had when Lord Alfred Hayes got the shaft, and part of it is that considering that WWE is going to burn through a lot of so-called "Legacy" individuals in short order through this means, they may use this as their alternate means of inducting deceased wrestlers without going through the whole yucky aspect of dealing with the whole "they're dead" stuff, even if they died due to cancer or some disease, and it wasn't due to their personal demons.
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Post by RadcapRadsley on Mar 5, 2019 0:04:48 GMT -5
Out of respect for Bobby Heanan and his family, I doubt that crook Jack Tunney will ever get inducted in the legacy wing.
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Post by The Heenan Family on Mar 5, 2019 3:15:30 GMT -5
My one main concern this year, which is a general issue, is the Legacy Wing. I kinda got into a bit of a misunderstanding with Vader's son on Twitter because I was pretty steamed about Torrie's induction and was commenting to someone that WWE tends to limit posthumous inductions to no more than one person per year for the main ceremony, but for Legacy inductions, everyone can be dead, and it doesn't bother them (my actual words were a bit more blunt due to the fact that Twitter's character limits make speaking more difficult and interpretations are of the eye of the beholder). This is the issue some people had when Lord Alfred Hayes got the shaft, and part of it is that considering that WWE is going to burn through a lot of so-called "Legacy" individuals in short order through this means, they may use this as their alternate means of inducting deceased wrestlers without going through the whole yucky aspect of dealing with the whole "they're dead" stuff, even if they died due to cancer or some disease, and it wasn't due to their personal demons. I can think of over one hundred names they could put in their Legacy Wing, but I agree that they will continue to creep into more modern eras for some of those inductions. Ivan Koloff, Bruiser Brody, Gary Hart, and Adrian Adonis are some that I believe will be inducted into that wing instead of getting a regular induction. The worst part about that wing is that it gives them more incentive to not induct people like The Destroyer, Dominic DeNucci, or Baron von Raschke while they're alive. EDIT: I didn't realize King Kong Bundy just passed away when I posted. I am so pissed right now. Stephanie McMahon cut a promo on Big Show several years back where she told him that the giants in pro wrestling do not live as long as normal people. When Henry replaced Bigelow last year, I was somewhat relieved because as Roman said on RAW, tomorrow is not promised to anyone. However I think it's more true for some. So while Bigelow was from New Jersey, I was hoping Bundy, who is also from New Jersey, would get the call and they could work something out. Next year if they feel like they want to induct Kelly Kelly, I hope they'd first give some consideration to people like Sycho Sid, One Man Gang, or Kamala. Or even just people over the age of fifty.
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Post by Spider2024 on Mar 5, 2019 6:36:32 GMT -5
^ Well, WM36 is strongly rumored to be in Tampa, Florida, so most likely at least one Floridian will be in the HoF next year. Where is Kelly Kelly from anyway? *Googles it* ...Florida, huh? Good.
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Post by auph10imitated on Mar 5, 2019 9:12:22 GMT -5
This is a strange one, I really like Torrie Wilson and she seems like a super sweet person. My initial thought is that the "Koko B Ware standard" gets lowered every year. She will now be that standard bearer.
I dont think this devalues what they are doing with Womens wrestling because she was more of a valet and theres no law against valets, managers etc getting in. Plus with Chyna getting in on the wrestler side, but not getting a proper induction they probably felt the need to add a female voice, but didnt want to add a wrestler, so I guess I get what they were going for. But how about Sable? Terri Runnels? The latter was with the company 8 years and also worked for WCW previous to that.
Torrie has been gone 10 years this year and was one of those first flag bearers for that Diva era we have closed the door on. I cant really see her speech amounting to much but she will well liked so I think she will be happy for her.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Mar 5, 2019 12:55:21 GMT -5
Torrie Wilson is in the hall of fame but Ivan Koloff and Rick Martel are not. Hahaha Vince you carny bitch.
I guess Torrie was recognizable for some time, but you can’t really show the raunchy stuff anymore.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Mar 5, 2019 12:56:23 GMT -5
Victoria!!!!!!!! Not Torrie!!!!!!! she’s never gonna get her due I think there’s still heat about how she left for tna.
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Post by TheDieselTrain on Mar 5, 2019 15:01:21 GMT -5
Victoria!!!!!!!! Not Torrie!!!!!!! she’s never gonna get her due I think there’s still heat about how she left for tna. many have done worse and gotten in. Not like they were using her seriously when she left. When have they ever acknowledged TNA as competition anyways?
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Mar 5, 2019 15:57:37 GMT -5
I think there’s still heat about how she left for tna. many have done worse and gotten in. Not like they were using her seriously when she left. When have they ever acknowledged TNA as competition anyways? Allegedly she lied about retiring just to get her release and a short time later she joined tna. Basically what Kurt Angle did and it took the wwe a long time to make amends and take him back. Victoria will one day be in the hof but the wwe holds grudges for years.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Mar 5, 2019 16:37:23 GMT -5
Victoria!!!!!!!! Not Torrie!!!!!!! she’s never gonna get her due I think there’s still heat about how she left for tna. The concussion lawsuit has definitely slowed things down as well. Hopefully she'll go in before too long.
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Post by The Heenan Family on Mar 5, 2019 16:47:37 GMT -5
I think there’s still heat about how she left for tna. The concussion lawsuit has definitely slowed things down as well. Hopefully she'll go in before too long. I think you're confusing Victoria with Princess Victoria. The latter is a female wrestler from the 80s that participated in the lawsuit.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Mar 5, 2019 17:08:00 GMT -5
The concussion lawsuit has definitely slowed things down as well. Hopefully she'll go in before too long. I think you're confusing Victoria with Princess Victoria. The latter is a female wrestler from the 80s that participated in the lawsuit. That's a relief to hear. Always had a soft spot for Victoria, and would like her to get her much-deserved moment in the sun.
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Post by gnr123 on Mar 6, 2019 1:45:27 GMT -5
I love Hall of Fame time. Every year from January through April it's the same thing. It's the Groundhog Day of WWE.
"Why are they going in?" "Why isn't (insert name here) going in before them?" "Where's (insert name here) turn?" "I guess since Koko B. Ware and Drew Carey are in, might as well put them in a well."
People seem to forget that their is no criteria for the WWE Hall of Fame. It's a television show with men fake fighting in underwear. It's not real, not meant to be taken seriously. Hell, it's like the Marvel movies, their characters and storylines to the shows, just like in Marvel. Brock Lesnar is Thanos, Seth Rollins is Captain America. It's a entertainment show, it's not a legit sport. No one cares how many "movez" you do or how much "5 Star Classics," you had besides people on the internet. Torrie Wilson is a deserving to be the Hall of Fame any anyone else. Why, because it's not a real thing in the first place! It's a night of nostalgia, that's all. It to celebrate the stars of yesterday, that's what it is. There's no physical Hall of Fame building, it's just for a fun night to remember the past stars, that's all it is.
This isn't like a Sport's Hall of Fame where people are put in when their won multiple championships, or made/broken new records, or had really good stats over their careers that made them stand out. Michael Jordon and Wayne Gretzkey are two noticeable names from two different sports who are arguably two of they best that ever played in their sport. Why, because of their legacy, their stats, their championship wins, their record breaking abilities, their star power. Their is no real competition in a wrestling ring, championship belts are used for storyline purposes, their is no real stats that matter because wins/losses don't matter in a television show.
Was Torrie Wilson good in the ring? No. Do you have to be good in the ring to be in the Hall of Fame, no. Fact is Torrie was very over, insanely hot, and wasn't their to wrestle. She was there to be eye-candy in a time where the Woman's Championship was over on RAW being defended by Trish Statues and Lita. Remember, Smackdown had no Woman's Championship at the time. She was there to be eye-candy, get guys riled up, and people loved it. WWE isn't all about moves, it's about charisma and playing a character. Torrie had great charisma and knew how to play her character to a tee. If you think of the Diva's from the early-mid 2000's on Smackdown, who are you going to think of? Sable, Torrie Wilson, and maybe Dawn Marie. How do you not know WWE hasn't asked they other two and their either turned it down or will go in next year?
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Post by edgestar on Mar 6, 2019 12:18:54 GMT -5
I just don't see an issue, with her getting in. They've already had Trish and Lita, now, they're giving Chyna, her due (even if it is posthumously). When the time comes, for a Victoria induction, I'm sure it will be amazing. I remember the internet (not necessarily here), being uncertain about Beth's induction, and she had a great speech.
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Post by WoodStoner1 on Mar 6, 2019 12:26:22 GMT -5
Torrie Wilson is in the hall of fame but Ivan Koloff and Rick Martel are not. Hahaha Vince you carny bitch. I guess Torrie was recognizable for some time, but you can’t really show the raunchy stuff anymore. Martel I dunno, but Ivan was on you guessed it...the CTE Lawsuit. I go on a mini tirade about that in the RIP Bundy thread.
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Post by salz4life on Mar 6, 2019 13:00:14 GMT -5
Out of respect for Bobby Heanan and his family, I doubt that crook Jack Tunney will ever get inducted in the legacy wing. He was the greatest leader since Noreaga!
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Post by salz4life on Mar 6, 2019 13:03:25 GMT -5
This is a strange one, I really like Torrie Wilson and she seems like a super sweet person. My initial thought is that the "Koko B Ware standard" gets lowered every year. She will now be that standard bearer. I dont think this devalues what they are doing with Womens wrestling because she was more of a valet and theres no law against valets, managers etc getting in. Plus with Chyna getting in on the wrestler side, but not getting a proper induction they probably felt the need to add a female voice, but didnt want to add a wrestler, so I guess I get what they were going for. But how about Sable? Terri Runnels? The latter was with the company 8 years and also worked for WCW previous to that. Torrie has been gone 10 years this year and was one of those first flag bearers for that Diva era we have closed the door on. I cant really see her speech amounting to much but she will well liked so I think she will be happy for her. Sable should absolutely be in. She was the female symbol of the attitude era (for good or for worse).
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Post by Mid-Carder on Mar 6, 2019 13:15:37 GMT -5
I see your Koko B Ware and I raise you one Torrie Wilson
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Post by edgestar on Mar 6, 2019 13:20:00 GMT -5
This is a strange one, I really like Torrie Wilson and she seems like a super sweet person. My initial thought is that the "Koko B Ware standard" gets lowered every year. She will now be that standard bearer. I dont think this devalues what they are doing with Womens wrestling because she was more of a valet and theres no law against valets, managers etc getting in. Plus with Chyna getting in on the wrestler side, but not getting a proper induction they probably felt the need to add a female voice, but didnt want to add a wrestler, so I guess I get what they were going for. But how about Sable? Terri Runnels? The latter was with the company 8 years and also worked for WCW previous to that. Torrie has been gone 10 years this year and was one of those first flag bearers for that Diva era we have closed the door on. I cant really see her speech amounting to much but she will well liked so I think she will be happy for her. Sable should absolutely be in. She was the female symbol of the attitude era (for good or for worse). The Sable/Jackie feud, was unintentionally hilarious.
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