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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Mar 28, 2019 15:44:32 GMT -5
Have Beefcake & Hogan made up? If so I assume he will be his inductor. And here I was hoping for Kevin Sullivan or the guy who played The Master. They'd have to learn some witchcraft or sorcery to bring back the man who played The Master (King Curtis Iaukea).
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Post by jason1980s on Mar 30, 2019 9:28:19 GMT -5
I can see why they may be hesitant to put Bam Bam in and not just because he is deceased.
I can see a pettiness over Bam Bam in that WWF made him out to be the next big thing when he arrived and he really didn't seem to put the effort in to make it happen. In 1987 he came in to even bigger fan fare than Ultimate Warrior who had a awesome looking appearance and gimmick. Bam Bam was known to have a bad attitude during both his WWF runs and even early into his first run, despite working the top of the card with Hulk Hogan, he was just "kind of there." He didn't even make the royal rumble which would have been a perfect chance to get him over as a big deal and also put the event over with a big winner. After all WWF did do for him, he wound up quitting and going to WCW by year's end.
Anyone looking to put down Shawn Michaels, Diesel and the kliq will cite their poor treatment of Bam Bam but maybe Bam Bam was just as difficult to work with, with them as they were with him. Bam Bam was given a top spot, again, with the champion in 1995 and he had such a unique appearance that if he really wanted WWF to do something with they would have found a way. Instead, he fell very fast in mid 1995. He was scheduled for the 1996 royal rumble but quit before the event which I believe conflicts with WWF knowing in advance he was leaving and his last match would be a loss to Goldust. The rumble participants were announced after Survivor Series.
I get being deceased or having a bad attitude or leaving WWF on bad terms never stopped them inducting someone but add all those reasons with WWE being petty just to be petty and maybe it's their reasoning for not having him.
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Post by auph10imitated on Mar 31, 2019 3:42:13 GMT -5
I can see why they may be hesitant to put Bam Bam in and not just because he is deceased. I can see a pettiness over Bam Bam in that WWF made him out to be the next big thing when he arrived and he really didn't seem to put the effort in to make it happen. In 1987 he came in to even bigger fan fare than Ultimate Warrior who had a awesome looking appearance and gimmick. Bam Bam was known to have a bad attitude during both his WWF runs and even early into his first run, despite working the top of the card with Hulk Hogan, he was just "kind of there." He didn't even make the royal rumble which would have been a perfect chance to get him over as a big deal and also put the event over with a big winner. After all WWF did do for him, he wound up quitting and going to WCW by year's end. Anyone looking to put down Shawn Michaels, Diesel and the kliq will cite their poor treatment of Bam Bam but maybe Bam Bam was just as difficult to work with, with them as they were with him. Bam Bam was given a top spot, again, with the champion in 1995 and he had such a unique appearance that if he really wanted WWF to do something with they would have found a way. Instead, he fell very fast in mid 1995. He was scheduled for the 1996 royal rumble but quit before the event which I believe conflicts with WWF knowing in advance he was leaving and his last match would be a loss to Goldust. The rumble participants were announced after Survivor Series. I get being deceased or having a bad attitude or leaving WWF on bad terms never stopped them inducting someone but add all those reasons with WWE being petty just to be petty and maybe it's their reasoning for not having him. I don’t think this is correct, Bruce touched upon it recently with Doink. Rumour being Bam Bam got Matt Bourne fired, but apparently he didn’t, Matt’s attitude got him fired and Ray Apollo was Bam Bams friend, he got the gig replacing Bourne as BBB was in a fued with Doink at the time and he recommended him to take over, nothing more nothing less. And other than The Kliq hating him (along with others) I’ve not heard anything bad about him, apparently he was a big softie. Vader however, I hear had an attitude at times.
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Post by auph10imitated on Mar 31, 2019 3:44:37 GMT -5
Also I believe he wasn’t happy due to his issues with The Kliq and agreed to put Goldust over at SS clean as a bargaining chip to leave. I mean he could have quit before SS if he was a an asshole and had issues putting people over.
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Post by The Heenan Family on Mar 31, 2019 20:45:32 GMT -5
Bronze Statues by year.
2013 - Andre the Giant 2014 - Bruno Sammartino 2015 - The Ultimate Warrior 2016 - The American Dream Dusty Rhodes 2017 - Nature Boy Ric Flair 2018 - The Fabulous Moolah
So who will get it this year?
Piper? Hogan? Austin? Hart? Michaels? Angle? Savage? Backlund? Foley?
I can see a case for giving it to Hogan before another shoe drops. Piper would make sense with the Rousey tie in. Since Angle is retiring and already in the HoF, maybe this will be part of his sendoff.
They might try for another woman this year since they had to bury the Moolah statue. If so, I hope it's Sherri instead of Mae or Trish.
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Post by auph10imitated on Apr 1, 2019 7:31:44 GMT -5
Hulk Hogan since he is back?
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Apr 1, 2019 11:05:10 GMT -5
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Apr 1, 2019 11:21:05 GMT -5
I know that he became a punch line over the years, and there's a lot of revisionist history when it comes to how over he was, but he absolutely deserves to be in
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Apr 1, 2019 11:36:44 GMT -5
Something to note for this year's class... No celebrity wing inductee. Which is a bit odd, because it's not like there are no worthy possible additions left (*cough*Cyndi Lauper*cough*) and we've seen how far they can stretch it when they really want to.
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Post by cosmo on Apr 1, 2019 11:40:39 GMT -5
I just wonder now if we will see Bret go in a 3rd time and Anvil a 2nd along with Owen, Bulldog and Pillman somewhere down the line. I unfortunately don’t see them inducting Owen unless Martha either has a sudden change of heart regarding WWE, or she dies and they can talk she and Owen’s kids into accepting it. And thinking of potential three-time Hall of Famers, I can totally see them inducting The Rockers next year just so they could say HBK was the first three-time inductee.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Apr 1, 2019 11:40:41 GMT -5
Something to note for this year's class... No celebrity wing inductee. Which is a bit odd, because it's not like there are no worthy possible additions left (*cough*Cyndi Lauper*cough*) and we've seen how far they can stretch it when they really want to. Ok, seriously, did Cyndi Lauper ask for too much money or did she, like, kick one of Hunter's kids when she was last in the company to beat up Heath Slater? Like, I can get some snubs but considering Ronda Rousey's in the WrestleMania main event, the snub to one of the reasons the WWF was successful in the 80s seems like a ridiculous oversight at this point.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Apr 1, 2019 12:03:55 GMT -5
Something to note for this year's class... No celebrity wing inductee. Which is a bit odd, because it's not like there are no worthy possible additions left (*cough*Cyndi Lauper*cough*) and we've seen how far they can stretch it when they really want to. Her and Kaufman are the worst snubs, in terms of celebrities
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2019 12:09:50 GMT -5
Something to note for this year's class... No celebrity wing inductee. Which is a bit odd, because it's not like there are no worthy possible additions left (*cough*Cyndi Lauper*cough*) and we've seen how far they can stretch it when they really want to. Ok, seriously, did Cyndi Lauper ask for too much money or did she, like, kick one of Hunter's kids when she was last in the company to beat up Heath Slater? Like, I can get some snubs but considering Ronda Rousey's in the WrestleMania main event, the snub to one of the reasons the WWF was successful in the 80s seems like a ridiculous oversight at this point. She's said in the past that touring has been a usual reason why she doesn't accept; she (or the WWE) wants to be there in person, but usually her music career prevents it. .....so sure enough I just checked her site and...nope, no tour or shows on the horizon. So that reason is moot, I guess.
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Apr 1, 2019 12:29:40 GMT -5
Ok, seriously, did Cyndi Lauper ask for too much money or did she, like, kick one of Hunter's kids when she was last in the company to beat up Heath Slater? Like, I can get some snubs but considering Ronda Rousey's in the WrestleMania main event, the snub to one of the reasons the WWF was successful in the 80s seems like a ridiculous oversight at this point. She's said in the past that touring has been a usual reason why she doesn't accept; she (or the WWE) wants to be there in person, but usually her music career prevents it. .....so sure enough I just checked her site and...nope, no tour or shows on the horizon. So that reason is moot, I guess. She said on twitter that she's never been asked and never turned it down.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Apr 1, 2019 12:52:24 GMT -5
They really shouldn't have announced him on April Fools Day.
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Post by hbkid718 on Apr 1, 2019 12:52:38 GMT -5
He should go in since he was a major part of 80s wrestling. But they should have saved his induction for next year in Tampa and inducted someone from New York or Jersey, like Taz, Bam Bam Bigelow (though I guess they didn't want to induct a 3rd deceased wrestler), or even The Brooklyn Brawler. Also, it looks like no Celebrity Inductions, which means another year that Regis Philbin won't be honored.
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Post by lildude8218 on Apr 1, 2019 12:58:21 GMT -5
Cyndi Lauper keeps refusing to go into the Hall of Fame because she thinks she's got one more run on top in her
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Post by DiBiase is Good on Apr 1, 2019 12:58:31 GMT -5
I know that he became a punch line over the years, and there's a lot of revisionist history when it comes to how over he was, but he absolutely deserves to be in Completely agree. With all the gimmick changes in WCW it’s easy to overlook just how over he was in 89/90, before the accident he was firmly in the second tier babyface category with Jake and Dusty.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Apr 1, 2019 13:04:24 GMT -5
I know that he became a punch line over the years, and there's a lot of revisionist history when it comes to how over he was, but he absolutely deserves to be in Completely agree. With all the gimmick changes in WCW it’s easy to overlook just how over he was in 89/90, before the accident he was firmly in the second tier babyface category with Jake and Dusty. It's often said that (insert name here) should have been IC/World champ, especially from that era. Beefcake is an example of someone who didn't need the title, but absolutely deserved it, even if it wasn't a crazy long reign. You wonder what his career trajectory would have been if not for the accident The notion that he was over just because he was Hulk's buddy is another one that I'd like to dispel. His feuds were always hot, and if he wasn't at least over enough on his own, he's not getting the SummerSlam Main event, especially in the day where there were only 4 PPVs a year.
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Post by fg on Apr 1, 2019 13:19:36 GMT -5
Something to note for this year's class... No celebrity wing inductee. Which is a bit odd, because it's not like there are no worthy possible additions left (*cough*Cyndi Lauper*cough*) and we've seen how far they can stretch it when they really want to. If there was a year where she should be inducted its this year. I would think they could obviously induct Regis Philbin this year since he is a New Yorker and still lives in the area. Also, he is in his late 80s. Better induct him now while he is still alive. Also, disappointed that Undertaker is not being inducted but maybe next year would be more appropriate since it would mark 30 years since his debut.
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