Allie Kitsune
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Feb 6, 2019 0:02:52 GMT -5
I don't like gimmicks like this because they feel like they're meant to divide the audience and make them be sneering assholes to each other.
The "He may be an asshole, but he's MY asshole, and if you don't agree with him, you're a horrible person!" effect.
**NOTE : No, I do not do "phrasing".
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Post by Error on Feb 6, 2019 0:03:16 GMT -5
I'm digging it all, well most of it. I'm not sure about Rowan being added. I really hope it doesn't become "and he would have won if Rowan hadn't gotten involved" or Bryan only winning thanks to Rowan.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Feb 6, 2019 0:20:52 GMT -5
I love that he's playing a Bret Hart-type heel. I marked being in the crowd tonight and having him not heel on us.
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Feb 6, 2019 0:21:37 GMT -5
I'm just waiting for it to ironically get over so they have to turn him babyface again...
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Post by Rudy Gobert Fingers on Feb 6, 2019 0:26:25 GMT -5
I love everything he's doing right now but like I literally cannot boo a man that wears anti discrimination shirts *and* punts AJ Styles in the balls. I just can't. That's like a Hulk Hogan 80s tier face for me.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Feb 6, 2019 0:32:46 GMT -5
My problem with the character is that the new belt is one step too far into comedy goober territory.
He’s a world champion with a midcard heel gimmick.
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Post by Fade on Feb 6, 2019 1:59:31 GMT -5
I love that he's playing a Bret Hart-type heel. I marked being in the crowd tonight and having him not heel on us. Except you guys had the audacity to WHAT his intellectual peer and friend..
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Post by darbus alan on Feb 6, 2019 2:20:06 GMT -5
It's one of my favorite things in WWE right now. He's fun to boo and I'm digging the partnership with his friend and intellectual peer, Rowan. I just want to see Rowan engage more in intellectual pursuits that prove the kind of great mind he is. Like maybe backstage cameras sneak up on Bryan and him having a discussion on how the works of Emerson and Thoreau complement each other and contrast from the likes of Melville and Hawthorne.
Just for the love of God let him feud with someone else besides AJ Styles.
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Post by government mule on Feb 6, 2019 2:51:15 GMT -5
Yeah this is by far my favourite bit of the product now. I even like having Rowan as his intellectual equal. It especially resonates with me because living in Brighton, he embodies a lot of attitudes of people living here. There's tens of thousands of Daniel Bryans that live in this city and its funny to see it manifest on TV.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Feb 6, 2019 3:25:16 GMT -5
To be honest, as a veggie, I kind of dislike that this is a heel gimmick. It doesn't seem quite as irrational or extremist as Punk's did either.
That said, I think his delivery of it is excellent, so I don't really agree with the OP.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Feb 6, 2019 3:29:36 GMT -5
To be honest, as a veggie, I kind of dislike that this is a heel gimmick. It doesn't seem quite as irrational or extremist as Punk's did either. That said, I think his delivery of it is excellent, so I don't really agree with the OP. I’m not a Vegetarian or a Vegan but it does feel like aspects of the gimmick come off as Vince venting his frustrations with the world around him talking about global warming or healthy eating or whatever since, well...he’d do that. Like, yeah, he’s doing really well with it but that’s the underlying thing I can’t shake off.
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 6, 2019 3:33:44 GMT -5
To be honest, as a veggie, I kind of dislike that this is a heel gimmick. It doesn't seem quite as irrational or extremist as Punk's did either. That said, I think his delivery of it is excellent, so I don't really agree with the OP. Think about it this way. This all started as his way of spinning hitting AJ in the dick as being this righteous, brave act. He's like the kind of vegan who brings stuff around to animal welfare even when it has zero relevance to the topic, like someone could make a thread about Orange is the New Black, and he says, "You know who is really in prison? Battery hens" and throws a few paragraphs out.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 6, 2019 4:33:58 GMT -5
My problem with the character is that the new belt is one step too far into comedy goober territory. He’s a world champion with a midcard heel gimmick. I know you'll disagree, but it's still better than Cena's stupid spinner that they kept for even Non-Cena Champions.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 6, 2019 4:36:24 GMT -5
Bryan's one of the freshest and most interesting characters on the entire roster right now to me. Seriously considering how STALE RAW is, Bryan has actually taken a heel turn and done it the right way because he wanted to. Contrast how miserable Elias and Rusev have been going back to heel for stupid reasons... it's nice when it actually works and has passion behind it.
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Post by King Devitt and the Woke Mob on Feb 6, 2019 4:43:04 GMT -5
I love everything about "The New" Daniel Bryan.
The new title was the icing on my vegan cake. I haven't marked that hard in a while over a belt.
but Rowan. I call the dude The Walking Albatross for a reason. He's horrible at everything. Like Ginger Corbin.
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Post by MAGGLE on Feb 6, 2019 5:20:44 GMT -5
Imagine keeping such a distance from the truth that you actually dislike the people speaking it...
Everyone can like and hate who ever they want, I will never say otherwise. But hating a guy because you are not comfortable about the issues that he is talking about is hilarious to me and also proof that we are all pretty much doomed. Its nothing to fight about though, another perspective I guess.
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Post by joey joe joe junior shabadoo on Feb 6, 2019 5:41:07 GMT -5
I LOVE IT MAGGLE
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Feb 6, 2019 5:59:02 GMT -5
I enjyo the gimmick and the work he's putting in but every segment feels like Vince is going to pleasure himself to an audio recording of his material getting booed. There's this weird, nagging implication underneath that says this got the greenlight so Vince can get some kind of weird satisfaction out of turning these views dark. I guess we hate Daniel Bryan now. LOL. He's doing his WWE work minus the WM 30 buildup. Enjoy it. Gee I sure am glad we can have a reasonable discussion about the middle ground of liking a performer but having issue with their work without someone throwing around weird comments plunging a conversation into its extremes and then shaming people for their opinions. `
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Post by Abdullah on Feb 6, 2019 6:00:52 GMT -5
Imagine keeping such a distance from the truth that you actually dislike the people speaking it... Everyone can like and hate who ever they want, I will never say otherwise. But hating a guy because you are not comfortable about the issues that he is talking about is hilarious to me and also proof that we are all pretty much doomed. Its nothing to fight about though, another perspective I guess. Oh no. I agree with what he’s saying. I just don’t think it makes for the best character, or the best promos, in a wrestling context.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Feb 6, 2019 6:11:58 GMT -5
I enjyo the gimmick and the work he's putting in but every segment feels like Vince is going to pleasure himself to an audio recording of his material getting booed. There's this weird, nagging implication underneath that says this got the greenlight so Vince can get some kind of weird satisfaction out of turning these views dark. I guess we hate Daniel Bryan now. LOL. He's doing his WWE work minus the WM 30 buildup. Enjoy it. Gee I sure am glad we can have a reasonable discussion about the middle ground of liking a performer but having issue with their work without someone throwing around weird comments plunging a conversation into its extremes and then shaming people for their opinions. ` Sadly, I think that's just the way a lot of people have been conditioned to communicate, about anything, in general now.
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