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Post by lavelleuk on Feb 7, 2019 4:17:29 GMT -5
I always liked punks, something about it not being perfect made it seem more real. Like it was screw form let's make it hurt. Maybe that's just me lol
Off topic but I see a few people don't like Kariri, but weirdly after 8 years my girlfriend finally enjoyed a wrestling match I was watching the other day....Kairi Sane v shayna blazer (that her name? The NXT women's title match from two takeovers ago)
She's not liked any classic matches, hard-core matches, high flying, technical, NXT, old school etc. Yet that match made her stop, watch and even praise it!
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Post by Magnus the Magnificent on Feb 7, 2019 6:10:28 GMT -5
He's usually, unfairly, the butt of the joke, but Paul Roma had a pretty sweet looking Elbow Drop.
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Post by RowdyRobbyPiper on Feb 7, 2019 9:03:18 GMT -5
Macho Because when he did it, it mattered. Kairi's matters, it's pretty well protected. Plus, Savage DID fail to win after giving Warrior 5, and used one to make Hogan power up one time, so there were times Savage's elbow didn't matter. I don’t count the Warrior match at Wrestlemania because it was Macho’s own hubris that defeated him in that match more than the move’s lack of effectiveness. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2019 9:25:48 GMT -5
I always liked punks, something about it not being perfect made it seem more real. Like it was screw form let's make it hurt. Maybe that's just me lol! This is why I always say Billy Kidman has the best Shooting Star Press. It’s like it’s so awkward looking that it’s perfect. |
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Feb 7, 2019 9:31:45 GMT -5
I always liked punks, something about it not being perfect made it seem more real. Like it was screw form let's make it hurt. Maybe that's just me lol! This is why I always say Billy Kidman has the best Shooting Star Press. It’s like it’s so awkward looking that it’s perfect. I'm partial to Liger's. Less airtime, but it seemed to have much more weight than the guys with better air. If Lesnar hit his properly it would have just been the best thing ever. |
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Feb 7, 2019 9:33:09 GMT -5
Kairi's matters, it's pretty well protected. Plus, Savage DID fail to win after giving Warrior 5, and used one to make Hogan power up one time, so there were times Savage's elbow didn't matter. I don’t count the Warrior match at Wrestlemania because it was Macho’s own hubris that defeated him in that match more than the move’s lack of effectiveness. I could get that with 1, maybe 2, but 5 in a row? That's not hubris that's "I will kill you and grind you into dust" levels. Especially when it's not like there was a hug pause after the move, he went straight in for the cover and it was nothing. |
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Post by Pgarodactyl on Feb 7, 2019 10:18:08 GMT -5
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Post by KobashiChop on Feb 7, 2019 10:57:26 GMT -5
The delivery of it looks brutal. She cocks back the elbow in midair perfectly. Someone that small should not have a move look THAT heavy.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2019 11:01:08 GMT -5
This is why I always say Billy Kidman has the best Shooting Star Press. It’s like it’s so awkward looking that it’s perfect. I'm partial to Liger's. Less airtime, but it seemed to have much more weight than the guys with better air. If Lesnar hit his properly it would have just been the best thing ever. Here's Brock doing the shooting star press. www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6k1LxVogkQ |
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Post by Hit Girl on Feb 7, 2019 11:05:48 GMT -5
Macho Because when he did it, it mattered. Kairi's matters, it's pretty well protected. Plus, Savage DID fail to win after giving Warrior 5, and used one to make Hogan power up one time, so there were times Savage's elbow didn't matter. In both those cases, the fact those guys got up and won after taking the elbow that normally ended a match showed how strong they were, so yes the move mattered because it put them over. Today's wrestlers can do whatever moves they want, but because moves that were previously devestating finishers are now often merely just another move, or because finishers are so often kicked out of, or the sheer lack of meaning and importance of angles, moves and matches today compared with those of the past, means that they just don't matter as much in general. A spectacular spot for example back in the 1980's or 1990's would have been memorable for decades, whereas now, it can be forgotten after a few days or even a few segments of the same show they occurred on.. |
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Post by Perfect Timing on Feb 7, 2019 12:08:33 GMT -5
The way she gets her legs up looks cool. I'm always thinking to myself "how does she get them up that high?"
It's the image of those legs that make the landing look painful.
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Post by BatPunk on Feb 7, 2019 12:21:34 GMT -5
Any time I thing of ANY elbow drops it’s Savage and Kairi. In my eyes both equally impressive and beautiful to watch.
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Post by Dub H on Feb 7, 2019 12:26:50 GMT -5
Kairi's matters, it's pretty well protected. Plus, Savage DID fail to win after giving Warrior 5, and used one to make Hogan power up one time, so there were times Savage's elbow didn't matter. In both those cases, the fact those guys got up and won after taking the elbow that normally ended a match showed how strong they were, so yes the move mattered because it put them over. Today's wrestlers can do whatever moves they want, but because moves that were previously devestating finishers are now often merely just another move, or because finishers are so often kicked out of, or the sheer lack of meaning and importance of angles, moves and matches today compared with those of the past, means that they just don't matter as much in general. A spectacular spot for example back in the 1980's or 1990's would have been memorable for decades, whereas now, it can be forgotten after a few days or even a few segments of the same show they occurred on.. Another thing that sucked about Neville leaving is that his Splash was pretty well protect,no one main roster ever kicked out. |
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Post by Dub H on Feb 7, 2019 12:27:40 GMT -5
The way she gets her legs up looks cool. I'm always thinking to myself "how does she get them up that high?" It's the image of those legs that make the landing look painful. Its like Jeff Hardy Swanton bomb,he doesnt actually stop mid-air but the way he moves sure makes it look like it |
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Feb 7, 2019 13:15:24 GMT -5
I'm partial to Liger's. Less airtime, but it seemed to have much more weight than the guys with better air. If Lesnar hit his properly it would have just been the best thing ever. Here's Brock doing the shooting star press. www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6k1LxVogkQI've seen the OVW clip at the beginning of this one, but not the one you posted. www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cjp7PERiEgUIt really would have been such an awesome WrestleMania Moment TM without him screwing it up |
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Feb 7, 2019 16:40:34 GMT -5
I'm partial to Liger's. Less airtime, but it seemed to have much more weight than the guys with better air. If Lesnar hit his properly it would have just been the best thing ever. Here's Brock doing the shooting star press. www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6k1LxVogkQI still have genuinely no idea how he managed that |
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Post by MrElijah on Feb 7, 2019 16:47:41 GMT -5
I still have genuinely no idea how he managed that Best that I can come up with, Brock was the Early 2000s version of Late 80s/Early 90s Scott Steiner. |
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Feb 7, 2019 17:04:48 GMT -5
*Excuse to post Randy Savage flying elbow gif*  Mang, I don't even think his is that good. Honestly if you're just measuring elbow vs. elbow I think Kairi's is the best one I've ever seen, but I wouldn't really argue it's the same move as Savage's technique-wise. |
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Post by AwamoriRock on Feb 7, 2019 19:14:25 GMT -5
Always liked Nakanoue's too.
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Post by Clint Bobski on Feb 7, 2019 19:57:59 GMT -5
*Excuse to post Randy Savage flying elbow gif* Mang, I don't even think his is that good. Honestly if you're just measuring elbow vs. elbow I think Kairi's is the best one I've ever seen, but I wouldn't really argue it's the same move as Savage's technique-wise. I think it's kind of unique because of the way he winds his arms up, kind of makes it look like his dive is so rapid he's steadying himself as he drops - plus I grew up watching Savage's elbow drop so for me it'll always have nostalgic value. |
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