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Post by Rudy Gobert Fingers on Feb 12, 2019 1:21:14 GMT -5
He literally had to go on racist rants to get anything resembling heat.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2019 1:29:08 GMT -5
I'm curious if YOU PEOPLE would take Mahal over Lashley in Lashley's current position? I'd make a new thread, but I fear that two threads about Jinder would raise the fun levels to an unhealthy level.
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Post by Prince Petty on Feb 12, 2019 2:13:11 GMT -5
I do agree that dude got way too much blame for his push with Stephanie basically burying him in that one interview post push about how India didn’t quite take (which could be argued is more to do with the culture of the people rather than any one star but anyway). But there is a reason dude didn’t work as a main eventer. He got rushed and was expected to a job he has never done at any point in his WWE career, which is ridiculous to expect unless you prepare the guy. Of course he was going to fail. I love how the WWE thought he could be a big draw for the Indian market despite being - 1. a cowardly heel and 2. Canadian. The patriarchal attitudes that the WWE has towards non-American markets is so funny, sometimes. They come across as so small-minded, that they think 'brown man will be loved by brown people'. By all accounts, Indian fans did love The Great Khali, but I'd guess that was due to him actually being Indian, as well as his story of being a former police officer, before making it big in the world of American wrestling. And he was presented as a huge deal, when he went to the WWE.
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Post by Big DSR Energy on Feb 12, 2019 2:25:18 GMT -5
F*** no, I don't miss any of that.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Feb 12, 2019 3:38:01 GMT -5
Everyone hates gizzarkhenry and he’s not a Mcmahon I turned heel on life when I was born in the main event of Mania. How dare anyone suggest nepotism
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 12, 2019 3:43:46 GMT -5
AJ Styles as champion got really damn boring. Brock Lesnar, much the same minus the odd great match. Kevin Owens and Seth Rollins had serious issues as top champ.
All four of them are still much better at it than Jinder was. I do not think Jinder is the worst champion in history, given Sgt. Slaughter was arguably worse due to how long it was after his peak and the dire angle. Stan Stasiak was a hilariously obvious transitional champ even in his day, I am sure. But we're talking bottom rung, all the same. I cannot tell you a single great title match he had off of the top of my head.
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 12, 2019 3:45:35 GMT -5
I'm curious if YOU PEOPLE would take Mahal over Lashley in Lashley's current position? I'd make a new thread, but I fear that two threads about Jinder would raise the fun levels to an unhealthy level. I have my issues with Lashley, and think he'd be a bad WWE or Universal champion at this time, but no, I'd take him over Jinder still.
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Post by King Devitt and the Woke Mob on Feb 12, 2019 3:59:10 GMT -5
I do agree that dude got way too much blame for his push with Stephanie basically burying him in that one interview post push about how India didn’t quite take (which could be argued is more to do with the culture of the people rather than any one star but anyway). But there is a reason dude didn’t work as a main eventer. He got rushed and was expected to a job he has never done at any point in his WWE career, which is ridiculous to expect unless you prepare the guy. Of course he was going to fail. Yeah... dude never showed really anything as a jobber... had like no real fan base... never had to cut much of a promo and was literally jobbing to Gronk like 2 months earlier. Maybe if they tried building him with at least a midcard title run first it'd have gone better.
I mean dude didn't have the talent for the spot he was given but the company sure as hell didn't do him any favors. this is honestly word for word how I feel about Roman's Cena-like super push after The Shield broke up.
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Post by 4real on Feb 12, 2019 5:06:30 GMT -5
Please no it was a nightmare. He might be the worst WWE Champion ever. No credibility whatsoever.
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Post by Dub H on Feb 12, 2019 5:16:42 GMT -5
Is it any coincidence that Smackdown Live’s downturn nearly coincided with Jinder as champ? I think Jinder is more of a sympton,it started showign they stopped they original style of booking.The oen that people cared for so you can have CRAZY PASSPORTS and forced pushes
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Post by schma on Feb 12, 2019 5:27:16 GMT -5
I'm not even sure he was main event though. It was like for most of his reign the real main eventers just went after the U.S. title instead.
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Feb 12, 2019 5:35:21 GMT -5
Don't you put that evil in me! I still have night terrors about dudes gross ass back. No thanks
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Post by Ryushinku on Feb 12, 2019 5:45:09 GMT -5
No, no, I'm good. Cheers.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Feb 12, 2019 6:26:50 GMT -5
I don't miss his backne exploding and bleeding all over the canvas.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2019 8:46:50 GMT -5
F*** no, I don't miss any of that. Things were so shitty when Jinder was the WWE Champion, even Shelton Benjamin as WWE Champion sounded good.
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Post by RedSmile on Feb 12, 2019 8:48:49 GMT -5
Jinder Mahal:
-A shit wrestler who is so shitty that he needed two goons to bump for him. -A generic uninteresting foreign heel character that had no heat. -Not over in the slightest bit. -Couldn't draw a live crowd at house shows, at Smackdown TV, or in India where he was expected to generate interest and to make the company money. -Chased away TV audiences as ratings nosedived. -Still not over in the slightest bit and has not made any progress as a character or worker.
He wasn't even a competent heel, let alone a perfect heel.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Feb 12, 2019 8:53:06 GMT -5
I do agree that dude got way too much blame for his push with Stephanie basically burying him in that one interview post push about how India didn’t quite take (which could be argued is more to do with the culture of the people rather than any one star but anyway). But there is a reason dude didn’t work as a main eventer. He got rushed and was expected to a job he has never done at any point in his WWE career, which is ridiculous to expect unless you prepare the guy. Of course he was going to fail. I love how the WWE thought he could be a big draw for the Indian market despite being - 1. a cowardly heel and 2. Canadian. The patriarchal attitudes that the WWE has towards non-American markets is so funny, sometimes. They come across as so small-minded, that they think 'brown man will be loved by brown people'. By all accounts, Indian fans did love The Great Khali, but I'd guess that was due to him actually being Indian, as well as his story of being a former police officer, before making it big in the world of American wrestling. And he was presented as a huge deal, when he went to the WWE. Also, and one thing people don't talk about as much, he won it in a number one contenders 6 way which involved Sami Zayn, Dolph Ziggler, Erick Rowan, Mojo Rawley and Luke Harper. And yeah, it didn't even headline the show; AJ Styles and Baron Corbin did.
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Post by Gus Richlen: Ruffian on Feb 12, 2019 8:54:40 GMT -5
The idea of taking a random midcard guy and pushing him rapidly into the main event level wasn't/isn't a bad idea per se and WWE should do it more often but Jinder ended up being another victim of the monkey paw more than anything else regardless of his skill level.
"Hey, people want us to start pushing more than just a handful of the same guys. You there, uh, guy who we just brought back! How would you like to be world champion?"
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Post by Dub H on Feb 12, 2019 9:18:16 GMT -5
The idea of taking a random midcard guy and pushing him rapidly into the main event level wasn't/isn't a bad idea per se and WWE should do it more often but Jinder ended up being another victim of the monkey paw more than anything else regardless of his skill level. "Hey, people want us to start pushing more than just a handful of the same guys. You there, uh, guy who we just brought back! How would you like to be world champion?" Oh a mid-card is not bad. BUT JINDER? HE WAS A JOBBER! And not even a good one!There was also line of people that people wanter,hell as people pointed out,people in the very same multiman he became number one contender. And he was booked solid,not perfect,but he looked strong in wins and defeats,was kayfabe wise competent.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2019 9:20:58 GMT -5
I’m a big fan of his and loved his title run. So I agree.
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