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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2019 23:05:02 GMT -5
I really wish we could stop, as fans, getting our hopes up with "STRAP HIM UP!" after one good match. This is the dude that, until that one good match was going "Man, pancakes is a funny word, huh?" shit in the mid-card. He caught a lucky break, and had a good match, but that's all this is. You're setting yourselves up for disappointment, man. I want him to be champion based on a hell of a lot more than one match. The story of the beloved veteran *finally* winning the big one, for instance. That said, I don't expect shit from this company. Nothing wrong with rooting for a guy though.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Feb 14, 2019 23:12:52 GMT -5
I really wish we could stop, as fans, getting our hopes up with "STRAP HIM UP!" after one good match. This is the dude that, until that one good match was going "Man, pancakes is a funny word, huh?" shit in the mid-card. He caught a lucky break, and had a good match, but that's all this is. You're setting yourselves up for disappointment, man. I want him to be champion based on a hell of a lot more than one match. The story of the beloved veteran *finally* winning the big one, for instance. That said, I don't expect shit from this company. Nothing wrong with rooting for a guy though. The guys been having good matches for YEARS. Sure the New Day stuff been goofy but it got so over which is why the are still a thing. Kofi proven himself more than once he deserves a legit chance. They always hype his Rumble saves but never wins and nothing comes of it. The guy deserves it and yes I like the idea of the veteran story getting the big one finally. I also like the idea suggested that lead to a break up. Kofi against E or Woods would be great matches.
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Post by Big DSR Energy on Feb 15, 2019 1:50:17 GMT -5
I want him to be champion based on a hell of a lot more than one match. The story of the beloved veteran *finally* winning the big one, for instance. That said, I don't expect shit from this company. Nothing wrong with rooting for a guy though. The guys been having good matches for YEARS. Sure the New Day stuff been goofy but it got so over which is why the are still a thing. Kofi proven himself more than once he deserves a legit chance. They always hype his Rumble saves but never wins and nothing comes of it. The guy deserves it and yes I like the idea of the veteran story getting the big one finally. I also like the idea suggested that lead to a break up. Kofi against E or Woods would be great matches. And people forget that New Day clowns around in promos and stuff but they've proven time and again that they can get down to business and put on bangers once the bell rings. They don't have to completely lose the jokes and stuff, just tone it down and remind people like Kofi did this past Tuesday.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2019 1:56:08 GMT -5
Hearing Big E say that they might be great salesmen, they might make jokes, they might play around but when it's time for them to get down they can do it. Then the guy says Kofi's one of the greatest to ever do it and you look back at this dude's stats.
4 time Intercontinental Champion... 3 time United States Champion... 4 time Raw Tag Team Champion... 3 time Smackdown Tag Team Champion... 1 time World Tag Team Champion...
Then look at his Rumble saves... Then you look at his ladder and other gimmick match stunts... Then you look at the fact he's a member of New Day and all they've accomplished... Including being the longest reigning tag team of all time... Including Kofi being the person with the most combined number of days as tag team champion in the company's entire history...
Kofi's done an amazing job at keeping his head down and making a name for himself these last 11 years. You have to think that in all of Kofi's years kayfabe-wise he's never been the "dammit I gotta get the world title at any cost" type of guy and yet he's still been able to be successful without it. It makes you wonder what he and New Day will accomplish when he's like "f*** it, it's world champion Kofi time."
Imagine Kofi walking to the ring at Wrestlemania to face Bryan and as he's doing it you hear Big E and Xavier listing his stats off like an NBA player or something. That's ballin.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2019 1:56:37 GMT -5
The guys been having good matches for YEARS. Sure the New Day stuff been goofy but it got so over which is why the are still a thing. Kofi proven himself more than once he deserves a legit chance. They always hype his Rumble saves but never wins and nothing comes of it. The guy deserves it and yes I like the idea of the veteran story getting the big one finally. I also like the idea suggested that lead to a break up. Kofi against E or Woods would be great matches. And people forget that New Day clowns around in promos and stuff but they've proven time and again that they can get down to business and put on bangers once the bell rings. They don't have to completely lose the jokes and stuff, just tone it down and remind people like Kofi did this past Tuesday. Hell, New Day was part of probably the most brutal Hell in a Cell of the last decade.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Feb 15, 2019 2:50:22 GMT -5
Ali now needs to beat Kofi. His character wants to, I mean. That was his spot and Kofi shone. He needs to prove he can outdo him. If neither has anything to do I would love to see a big babyface vs. babyface match at Fastlane where they go long and the whole thing is built up as Ali proving he would have excelled in the spot he did, but without any major hard feelings. If they're not going to do anything big with Kofi this would be a great alternative to make something of that momentum. Much as I would love to see them actually do something with Kofi instead. My vote is to do both. Give Kofi something to do on the way to Mania until he gets to Bryan.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2019 12:46:34 GMT -5
Followup promo on Youtube. They are pushing the HELL out of the idea that Kofi getting the title is overdue and New Day wants nothing more than for him to have it. Old Day makes TV. Bayley, this is your life makes TV. Lashley's man-sisters make TV. Gold like this gets relegated to YouTube. This f***ing company.
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Post by TheMediocreWarrior on Feb 15, 2019 13:00:06 GMT -5
I will be really disappointed if Kofi isn't the #1 contender for WrestleMania.
-He's won the tag team titles and midcard singles titles a bunch of times. -New Day has been consistently over for years. -New Day's commercialism and promotion of junk food makes them the opposite of Daniel Bryan.
I'm hoping that New Day promo is a sign that the writing team has a clue that the perfect WrestleMania opponent for Daniel Bryan is so obvious.
It has also been 15 years since Eddie Guerrero unexpectedly won the WWE Championship from Brock Lesnar. Maybe WWE could promote the idea that February is the month for underdogs getting surprise championship wins before WrestleMania?
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Post by Citizen Snips on Feb 15, 2019 19:29:01 GMT -5
Hearing Big E say that they might be great salesmen, they might make jokes, they might play around but when it's time for them to get down they can do it. Then the guy says Kofi's one of the greatest to ever do it and you look back at this dude's stats. I don't want this to come across as a knock on Kofi; he's a fine wrestler and has had a great career...but calling him one of the greatest to ever do it is a STRETCH. Even if it's his buddy hyping it up, it's still a hard one to swallow.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2019 14:35:13 GMT -5
Yeah we know that Kofi isn't winning but it's interesting to see this momentum. We know why it's happening, it doesn't mean it's any less great.
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Post by Tom Turkey on Feb 16, 2019 15:20:53 GMT -5
Yeah we know that Kofi isn't winning but it's interesting to see this momentum. We know why it's happening, it doesn't mean it's any less great. At the very least, he should get the big Wrestlemania angle facing Bryan.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2019 15:24:28 GMT -5
At the very least even if you don't want to give Kofi the Mania moment, have him win the Elimination Chamber and lose it back at Fastlane. At the very least it'd be something of interest actually f***ing happening on the road to Mania for once and you'd still be getting a nice moment out of it.
And it's not like Bryan actually has any momentum to disrupt given he's done nothing but come out to silence then scream at the crowd to rile them up before AJ inevitably cuts him off. If anything giving him a more direct target would probably help to give the character some actual focus.
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Post by bog on Feb 16, 2019 15:37:00 GMT -5
I really wish we could stop, as fans, getting our hopes up with "STRAP HIM UP!" after one good match. This is the dude that, until that one good match was going "Man, pancakes is a funny word, huh?" shit in the mid-card. He caught a lucky break, and had a good match, but that's all this is. You're setting yourselves up for disappointment, man. It's ok to get excited about something, even if it doesn't actually happen. I don't know if it will happen, but I want it to, and I'm going to let myself mark out at his performance at EC. That's wrestling. I don't get this weird fear to "be worked" or become a "mark." You know who enjoys wrestling the most? Marks.
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Post by msc on Feb 16, 2019 15:46:22 GMT -5
Yeah we know that Kofi isn't winning but it's interesting to see this momentum. We know why it's happening, it doesn't mean it's any less great. It's actually going to happen! Not tomorrow but I mean "near future".
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Feb 16, 2019 17:04:10 GMT -5
Jamaican him champion.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2019 17:06:59 GMT -5
Kofi has deserved a run for a long time. I’d love to see it, but I’ll believe it when it happens.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Feb 16, 2019 17:10:38 GMT -5
Yeah we know that Kofi isn't winning but it's interesting to see this momentum. We know why it's happening, it doesn't mean it's any less great. Well my hopes are rising here.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Feb 16, 2019 17:18:21 GMT -5
Thing is, there's no downside to giving him an opportunity. He's a guy that fans across all demographics can get behind, casual&smark. He's always been pretty over, always been able to give you a good match etc. If he carried it for a bit and it wasn't working, you have him lose it. He'd at least be a fresh face in the main event that's gonna get a mostly positive response.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Feb 16, 2019 17:56:39 GMT -5
Thing is, there's no downside to giving him an opportunity. He's a guy that fans across all demographics can get behind, casual&smark. He's always been pretty over, always been able to give you a good match etc. If he carried it for a bit and it wasn't working, you have him lose it. He'd at least be a fresh face in the main event that's gonna get a mostly positive response. But ratings might go down an inch and that’ll mean no new people can main event ever again so we can’t have that!
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Feb 16, 2019 18:55:41 GMT -5
I was playing a sporcle quiz a while ago ranking the number of days people have been some sort of champ in the WWE. Not counting Moolah, Sammartino, and Morales (who were WWWF or rapists), Kofi Kingston is SIXTH. He's above Shawn Michaels, Edge, Chris Jericho, Kane, Randy Orton, Big Show, Brock Lesnar, Bret Hart, and on and on and on.
He's the top guy to never win a word championship, and it's not even close. It's him, and then like 500 days of being champion, and then Billy Gunn.
This is an easy story to tell. He's an all-time great; objective stats bear that out. But he's never won the big one.
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