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Post by MAGGLE on Feb 19, 2019 4:36:01 GMT -5
I mean it looked exactly like it turned out. No one would have treated it the way he did otherwise.
Still messed up to date your childs hero.
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Post by Lance Uppercut on Feb 19, 2019 4:42:13 GMT -5
I’m no longer judging either as cheaters. I’m still judging Carmella’s taste in men. Liv rebounded to Tyler Bate. Pick a nice young British lad. Not Corey “Dipshit” Graves, girl. Tyler Bate is far from a nice young lad haha Yeah Toni Storm might have wanted to give Liv a head’s up about that
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Post by abjordans on Feb 19, 2019 5:31:15 GMT -5
I said in the other thread that it is very unlikely the wool was pulled over Carmella’s eyes, as others were implying that Graves could have lied to her about his marriage situation. That is just not realistic. Then I read Graves had his own place, then this comes out. I don’t know the lady, but Carmella doesn’t seem like the “other woman” type, so I am glad this is what it is.
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Post by Tenshigure on Feb 19, 2019 6:50:36 GMT -5
Still messed up to date your childs hero. His estranged wife is clearly hurt and is doing whatever she can to hurt him in return (digging up his suicidal texts, claiming Carmella is their kids' hero, etc). Even if the hero status claim is true, Carmella and Graves are two consenting adults and can do whatever they want in spite of what she (or the kids for that matter) is saying. Now, if they were openly being intimate and kissing in front of the kids it'd be an entirely different story, but I doubt that's what is going on here.
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Post by MAGGLE on Feb 19, 2019 7:05:56 GMT -5
Still messed up to date your childs hero. His estranged wife is clearly hurt and is doing whatever she can to hurt him in return (digging up his suicidal texts, claiming Carmella is their kids' hero, etc). Even if the hero status claim is true, Carmella and Graves are two consenting adults and can do whatever they want in spite of what she (or the kids for that matter) is saying. Now, if they were openly being intimate and kissing in front of the kids it'd be an entirely different story, but I doubt that's what is going on here. They can do whatever they want, whats the problem with me finding it messed up? I find pineapple on a pizza messed up but I dont hate anyone for it. Everythings fine dude.
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Post by Dub H on Feb 19, 2019 9:53:21 GMT -5
His estranged wife is clearly hurt and is doing whatever she can to hurt him in return (digging up his suicidal texts, claiming Carmella is their kids' hero, etc). Even if the hero status claim is true, Carmella and Graves are two consenting adults and can do whatever they want in spite of what she (or the kids for that matter) is saying. Now, if they were openly being intimate and kissing in front of the kids it'd be an entirely different story, but I doubt that's what is going on here. They can do whatever they want, whats the problem with me finding it messed up? I find pineapple on a pizza messed up but I dont hate anyone for it. Everythings fine dude. The only people that deserve hate for something are people that think hotdogs are sandwichs.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Feb 19, 2019 19:51:39 GMT -5
Still messed up to date your childs hero. His estranged wife is clearly hurt and is doing whatever she can to hurt him in return (digging up his suicidal texts, claiming Carmella is their kids' hero, etc). Even if the hero status claim is true, Carmella and Graves are two consenting adults and can do whatever they want in spite of what she (or the kids for that matter) is saying. Now, if they were openly being intimate and kissing in front of the kids it'd be an entirely different story, but I doubt that's what is going on here. Nah man, that "two consenting adults" thing gets really muddled when there are kids involved, and you need to think about how something like that is going to effect your kids. Having young kids is a point in your life where the decisions you make aren't just for you.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Feb 19, 2019 19:55:41 GMT -5
His estranged wife is clearly hurt and is doing whatever she can to hurt him in return (digging up his suicidal texts, claiming Carmella is their kids' hero, etc). Even if the hero status claim is true, Carmella and Graves are two consenting adults and can do whatever they want in spite of what she (or the kids for that matter) is saying. Now, if they were openly being intimate and kissing in front of the kids it'd be an entirely different story, but I doubt that's what is going on here. Nah man, that "two consenting adults" thing gets really muddled when there are kids involved, and you need to think about how something like that is going to effect your kids. Having young kids is a point in your life where the decisions you make aren't just for you. "what's right" for kids in situations like this can only be decided by the parents. I'm entirely uncomfortable saying how someone should or shouldn't be raising their kids. This isn't any of our business to even be discussing.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Feb 19, 2019 20:01:18 GMT -5
Nah man, that "two consenting adults" thing gets really muddled when there are kids involved, and you need to think about how something like that is going to effect your kids. Having young kids is a point in your life where the decisions you make aren't just for you. "what's right" for kids in situations like this can only be decided by the parents. I'm entirely uncomfortable saying how someone should or shouldn't be raising their kids. This isn't any of our business to even be discussing. I'm not saying what's right, I'm saying that the decision to date one of your daughter's idols is not a decision made in a vacuum on the basis of "I'm an adult I can do what I want". The post I quoted even claimed that it doesn't matter what the kids say either, and that's just really not true.
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Post by Stone Coke Miami Watson 🥃 on Feb 19, 2019 20:55:08 GMT -5
Well I was wrong in how I rushed to judgement on him and Carmella...chalk it up to being cheated on by my spouse and quick to blame.
His ex wife even deleted her Instagram account this past weekend, so take that for what it’s worth.
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Post by TheDieselTrain on Feb 20, 2019 8:46:39 GMT -5
So....legit curious here...... just being separated makes it okay? Doesn't being separated mean you're still legally married? You still could reconcile right?
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Feb 20, 2019 8:52:23 GMT -5
"what's right" for kids in situations like this can only be decided by the parents. I'm entirely uncomfortable saying how someone should or shouldn't be raising their kids. This isn't any of our business to even be discussing. I'm not saying what's right, I'm saying that the decision to date one of your daughter's idols is not a decision made in a vacuum on the basis of "I'm an adult I can do what I want". The post I quoted even claimed that it doesn't matter what the kids say either, and that's just really not true. Sadly, it is. After my parents separated, my father started sleeping with (and is to this day now married to, even though they do not live together, he pays her mortgage and they see each other multiple times a week, because they get along fine if they're not together 7 days a week) a woman who absolutely hated me. I let it be known when I was much younger (3rd-4th grade age) how I felt about it, and my father basically told me to go f*** myself.
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Post by abjordans on Feb 20, 2019 9:27:47 GMT -5
I get The they are two consenting adults thing, but when you are fresh out of a marriage and have some young kids that you chose to bring into this world, maybe take some time to create some space and separation before jumping into a new relationship. I think when someone gets out of one relationship and jumps immediately into another is always kind of questionable. Like, it isn’t cheating, but it is definitely a form of shitting on your partner and telling them they didn’t really mean that much to you. And, if you are doing it just to get over someone, you are also doing a disservice to your new partner who may not realize they are just a rebound.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Feb 20, 2019 9:50:19 GMT -5
I'm not saying what's right, I'm saying that the decision to date one of your daughter's idols is not a decision made in a vacuum on the basis of "I'm an adult I can do what I want". The post I quoted even claimed that it doesn't matter what the kids say either, and that's just really not true. Sadly, it is. After my parents separated, my father started sleeping with (and is to this day now married to, even though they do not live together, he pays her mortgage and they see each other multiple times a week, because they get along fine if they're not together 7 days a week) a woman who absolutely hated me. I let it be known when I was much younger (3rd-4th grade age) how I felt about it, and my father basically told me to go f*** myself. Oh no it happens, and I'm sorry you dealt with that shit because that's awful, but the general wisdom of "You can do what you want" follows the caveat of "as long as it's not hurting someone else". That shit hurts the kids, and if you're taking the position of "Imma do me, even if it's hurtful to my children" then that's legitimately just kinda shit parenting.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Feb 20, 2019 10:32:28 GMT -5
So....legit curious here...... just being separated makes it okay? Doesn't being separated mean you're still legally married? You still could reconcile right? It don’t know if it’s a legal separation agreement, or if they’ve just split up but to me separated is basically defined by the 2 parties involved. It may be taking a break to clear your head, it could mean things are done. When my ex and I separated, it was almost 2 years before we got divorced but that relationship was dead when we split. I feel both of us were well within our rights to see other people during that time.
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Post by Prince Petty on Feb 20, 2019 10:39:01 GMT -5
So....legit curious here...... just being separated makes it okay? Doesn't being separated mean you're still legally married? You still could reconcile right? So you're saying, they might not have been on a break?
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Post by edgestar on Feb 20, 2019 10:41:06 GMT -5
Look. Can we ALL agree and blame Enzo? For everything? "We already do!!" - everyone on earth
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Post by corndog on Feb 20, 2019 13:38:09 GMT -5
So....legit curious here...... just being separated makes it okay? Doesn't being separated mean you're still legally married? You still could reconcile right? Is he legally still married? For now, until the divorce is finalized. But if this article is correct, they filed 6 months ago and it is almost finalized, so they are the point of no return unless they decide to get remarried later down the road. Basically, Graves isn't considered to be "cheating" on his wife, because they already filed. Legally separated is different from filing from divorce. It means you don't share assets and aren't living together, but are technically still married. If this was a legal separation there could be a chance to reconcile, as that is usually the point or as a divorce trial period.
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Post by Cyno on Feb 20, 2019 13:47:04 GMT -5
In the most technical sense, if they're still married, it's cheating. That said, there's a LOT of context missing here between "cheating on your partner in what appears to be a healthy marriage" and "seeing someone else when legally separated and on the way to finalizing a divorce." Obviously, the former carries a lot more negative weight in the court of public opinion.
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Post by Mecca on Feb 20, 2019 13:47:24 GMT -5
Sadly, it is. After my parents separated, my father started sleeping with (and is to this day now married to, even though they do not live together, he pays her mortgage and they see each other multiple times a week, because they get along fine if they're not together 7 days a week) a woman who absolutely hated me. I let it be known when I was much younger (3rd-4th grade age) how I felt about it, and my father basically told me to go f*** myself. Oh no it happens, and I'm sorry you dealt with that shit because that's awful, but the general wisdom of "You can do what you want" follows the caveat of "as long as it's not hurting someone else". That shit hurts the kids, and if you're taking the position of "Imma do me, even if it's hurtful to my children" then that's legitimately just kinda shit parenting. That is a really hard line to walk with children because some kids will try to screw up any and every relationship because they can't handle mom and dad not being together. So that becomes a really weird place to be in of..is my kid being sincere about this person? Or does my kid hate anyone that isn't the other parent and they either expect us to be together or not with another person? I know a few people who got divorced and dealt with this and after a few times basically had to tell their kids that they would not make the rest of their lives miserable because they got divorced..lots of drama of course.
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