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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2019 10:32:35 GMT -5
With the SNL hosts being in the Battle Royal, that must mean it's going to be on the main show, right?
Right?
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 26, 2019 10:43:53 GMT -5
Live performances are usually awful at Mania... and I really don't think Ronda deserves it, but we'll see.
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Post by Rican on Mar 26, 2019 15:43:07 GMT -5
So, lets say hypothetically this year had been the year they experimented with a two night Wrestlemania. How would you structure the two shows? Lets assume NXT Takeover stays separate. I think I would do:
Saturday
1. Cruiserweight Championship
2. Women's Battle Royal (winner to challenge Asuka the following night)
3. IC Title: Finn Balor vs. Bobby Lashley
4. AJ Styles vs. Randy Orton
5. RAW Tag Team Championship (Revival vs. Aleister Black and Ricochet)
6. No Holds Barred: Batista vs. Triple H
7. Women's Tag Team Championship
8. WWE Championship: Daniel Bryan vs. Kofi Kingston
Sunday
1. SmackDown Women's Championship: Asuka vs. winner of previous nights battle royal
2. Kurt Angle vs. Baron Corbin
3. SmackDown Tag Titles: The Usos vs. Hardy Boyz
4. Roman Reigns vs. Drew McIntyre
5. US Title: Samoa Joe vs. Rey Mysterio
6. The Miz vs. Shane McMahon
7. Universal Championship: Brock Lesnar vs. Seth Rollins
8. Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal
9. RAW Women's Championship: Ronda Rousey vs. Becky Lynch vs. Charlotte Flair
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Mar 26, 2019 16:15:48 GMT -5
Live performances are usually awful at Mania... and I really don't think Ronda deserves it, but we'll see. Do you also not think she deserves the main event? Because I don't really feel like you can have one without the other.
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Post by BRV on Mar 26, 2019 16:18:16 GMT -5
The problem with shoving everyone onto the WrestleMania card and having 83 different matches is that a lot of big players in WWE end up getting shafted into meaningless matches with no reason to exist and no build or hype. That's why we have Samoa Joe versus Rey Mysterio, Bobby Lashley versus Finn Balor, Drew McIntyre versus Roman Reigns, Asuka versus TBD, and, sort of, Kurt Angle versus Baron Corbin.
This really is starting to feel like WrestleMania V, VI, or VII, where there were too many matches but only about a third had an actual reason to be happening beyond "it's WrestleMania, get all the big names onto the card and see what happens."
Those five matches that I referenced earlier feel no different than your average episode of Raw or SmackDown and that should never be the case for WrestleMania. If they can't come up with a creative reason for a match to be happening on the sport's biggest stage, then it shouldn't be happening. Of the 13 announced matches so far, it literally feels like half don't matter and won't matter by the time Raw kicks off the following night.
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Post by DZ: WF Legacy on Mar 26, 2019 16:21:36 GMT -5
If they don't add Usos/Hardyz tonight on SDL, I'm gonna be really sad.
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Post by mcstoklasa on Mar 26, 2019 16:42:18 GMT -5
If they don't add Usos/Hardyz tonight on SDL, I'm gonna be really sad. Another match?
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Mar 26, 2019 18:23:24 GMT -5
I think two night Manias has way too much of a potential to be a clusterf***. However, where I think they could alleviate some of the problems of too many matches is to increase the importance of the Raw after Mania and what will likely be the Smackdown before Mania next year. You get the big ticket main event level matches on Mania proper, and you incorporate the midcard into several multi mans while building their individual programs to conclude on TV in advertised matches during the week.
They could condense Kurt Angle vs. Baron Corbin, Finn Balor vs. Bobby Lashley, and Roman Reigns vs. Drew McIntyre into a six man for Mania, and then blow off those programs in singles matches on the Raw After Mania. Yeah, we've seen those six mans on TV before, but maybe they might give a shit for one that occurs at Mania.
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Post by DZ: WF Legacy on Mar 26, 2019 19:00:01 GMT -5
If they don't add Usos/Hardyz tonight on SDL, I'm gonna be really sad. Another match? I know the card is full, but I wouldn't shed any tears if Balor/Lashley got bumped to the pre-show.
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Post by brettappedout (BLM) on Mar 26, 2019 20:32:26 GMT -5
I know the card is full, but I wouldn't shed any tears if Balor/Lashley got bumped to the pre-show. The Demon on the pre show isn't a bad idea. Keep the crowd alive going into the main show.
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Post by rrg251 on Mar 26, 2019 21:12:02 GMT -5
If they don't add Usos/Hardyz tonight on SDL, I'm gonna be really sad. They didn't, but I bet the Usos pay for that forfeiture tonight by having to defend the belts at Mania in a multi-team ladder match. That'll be the setup.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2019 21:33:44 GMT -5
Honestly at this juncture I might well just turn the show off before the triple threat. By now everything about it beyond its historical significance just irritates me.
Granted a lot of that will probably come down to if I can find anything better to watch at 3 AM when this thing starts.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2019 21:35:26 GMT -5
I know the card is full, but I wouldn't shed any tears if Balor/Lashley got bumped to the pre-show. What, you're not dying to see the literal 16th match between them since October?
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Post by DZ: WF Legacy on Mar 26, 2019 21:41:08 GMT -5
I know the card is full, but I wouldn't shed any tears if Balor/Lashley got bumped to the pre-show. What, you're not dying to see the literal 16th match between them since October? Hey, he might paint his face this time!
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Post by Pierre the Renaissance Man on Mar 26, 2019 21:55:04 GMT -5
So for everyone complaining about too many matches you should all be happy that thereβs not gonna be a pointless Asuka match. And the Balor match canβt be on the pre show. The Demon entrance in daylight would be awful.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2019 21:55:10 GMT -5
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Mar 26, 2019 21:57:18 GMT -5
So for everyone complaining about too many matches you should all be happy that thereβs not gonna be a pointless Asuka match. And the Balor match canβt be on the pre show. The Demon entrance in daylight would be awful. Full sunlight at Mania didn't stop them from a hilarious Bray entrance (with lantern) once.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Mar 26, 2019 22:03:30 GMT -5
Couple of notes here for Kingston... 1. First ever singles match at WrestleMania for him, too 2. Chance to significantly improve an honestly pissweak WrestleMania win/loss record. By God, itβs one of the worst, surely... 1-9-0 if you include preshow matches (1-6-0 without). (For those curious as to what they were...) {Spoiler}WM24 (PS): lost #1 ECW Contender Battle Royal (0-1-0) WM25: lost Money In The Bank Ladder Match (0-2-0) WM26: lost Money In The Bank Ladder Match (0-3-0) WM27: def. The Corre (1-3-0) WM28: lost to Team Johnny (1-4-0) WM29: Not booked WM30: lost Andre Battle Royal (1-5-0) WM31 (PS): lost Tag Title 4-Way (1-6-0), lost Andre Battle Royal (1-7-0) WM32: lost to League Of Nations (1-8-0) WM33: Not booked (hosts) WM34: lost SD Tag Title Triple Threat (1-9-0)
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Post by Pierre the Renaissance Man on Mar 26, 2019 22:08:34 GMT -5
So for everyone complaining about too many matches you should all be happy that thereβs not gonna be a pointless Asuka match. And the Balor match canβt be on the pre show. The Demon entrance in daylight would be awful. Full sunlight at Mania didn't stop them from a hilarious Bray entrance (with lantern) once. They kinda had no choice on that since it was in Cali. This this they have a choice at least.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2019 0:34:00 GMT -5
So for everyone complaining about too many matches you should all be happy that thereβs not gonna be a pointless Asuka match. I mean, I'd rather watch a pointless Asuka match than a Lashley, Corbin, McIntyre, Shane, Lesnar, Triple H, or Tamina match that has a point.
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