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Post by BorneAgain on Feb 22, 2019 15:58:32 GMT -5
I don't see the appeal of the Doink character in any iteration. To me, he occupied a spot on the rungs beneath Tugboat but just above Battlecat, compared to the pantheon of characters in the WWF in the early to mid-90s. When I see statements like this, I always wonder if people just didn't get the heel version of the character or only saw the babyface version. I guess I just don't see what's not to love about a sleazy sociopath who dresses like a clown. I'll grant you that they made some bad choices with his character, but I still think there was great potential there, and Borne did an amazing job.  The thing about the heel Doink, at least the initial part of his run was that it he seemed less like a clown that wrestled than he was a wrestler who was a clown. Borne's promos and clear skills hinted at a talented, yet slightly disturbed guy who took some sadistic joy in f***ing with people in a jokester persona, even to the point of hurting them. The vocal shift from high pitched laughter to deep threats when Doink talked really hinted as the character's more dangerous elements across pretty well and I think some changes in booking and a few significant victories might have given him more credibility even with the outwardly cartoonish nature of the gimmick. |
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Post by The Thread Barbi on Feb 22, 2019 17:03:47 GMT -5
I don't see the appeal of the Doink character in any iteration. To me, he occupied a spot on the rungs beneath Tugboat but just above Battlecat, compared to the pantheon of characters in the WWF in the early to mid-90s. When I see statements like this, I always wonder if people just didn't get the heel version of the character or only saw the babyface version. I guess I just don't see what's not to love about a sleazy sociopath who dresses like a clown. I'll grant you that they made some bad choices with his character, but I still think there was great potential there, and Borne did an amazing job. Sorry, I just couldn't set him apart from Skinner or Repo Man, or any lower tier, day job type, played for laughs heel. There wasn't any likeability to the character - instant or as a grower. |
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Post by hulksmash87 on Feb 22, 2019 18:46:03 GMT -5
Say Hogan doesn't leave after kor 93, they have doing blow the fire in Hogan's face Yoko moves on Hogan comes back to feud with doink
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Post by Brandon Walsh is Insane. on Feb 22, 2019 18:55:25 GMT -5
On my lunch break, there was this lady walking down the street dressed as Doink. No face paint, but with the jacket and wig.
Was very odd, and I wanted to pull over just for the photo but man.
I know this doesn't the subject, but I had to tell SOMEBODY that would understand what I'm talking about, ha.
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Feb 22, 2019 19:01:39 GMT -5
When I see statements like this, I always wonder if people just didn't get the heel version of the character or only saw the babyface version. I guess I just don't see what's not to love about a sleazy sociopath who dresses like a clown. I'll grant you that they made some bad choices with his character, but I still think there was great potential there, and Borne did an amazing job. The thing about the heel Doink, at least the initial part of his run was that it he seemed less like a clown that wrestled than he was a wrestler who was a clown. Borne's promos and clear skills hinted at a talented, yet slightly disturbed guy who took some sadistic joy in f***ing with people in a jokester persona, even to the point of hurting them. The vocal shift from high pitched laughter to deep threats when Doink talked really hinted as the character's more dangerous elements across pretty well and I think some changes in booking and a few significant victories might have given him more credibility even with the outwardly cartoonish nature of the gimmick. Honestly, I think a heel Doink taken semi-seriously could get over today. The "evil clown" trope like Joker and Pennywise, or just subversive clowns like Insane Clown Posse and their often explicit lyrics, are arguably more popular than happy non-ironic clowns like Bozo from a previous era. The happy face Doink protecting Dink de-fanged him too much for an action-oriented wrestling show, even for 1993 crowds. |
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 22, 2019 19:05:03 GMT -5
Doink, brah! Yer makin kids cry, brah!
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Post by Milkman Norm on Feb 22, 2019 19:06:17 GMT -5
"Granpapy Crush was a clown, but he was a nice clown."
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2019 19:17:15 GMT -5
The problem with Doink being a serious threat was the fact that his name was Doink.
“Doink” sounds like a happy cheerful clown.
Something like “Pennywise” for example would have been a main event hit.
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Post by honsou on Feb 22, 2019 19:24:36 GMT -5
Hogan had a program with the Genus and once entered the cave of the Dungeon of Doom, of course this could of worked
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Post by Milkman Norm on Feb 23, 2019 10:40:46 GMT -5
Exactly. Hogan could have had a program with Matt Bourne Doink and would have had some quality matches. He would have gone over clean in the end obviously and then Doink in following the pattern that WWE used at the time would have worked his way back the card returning the jobs to the guys that put him over to build him up.
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Post by nickcave on Feb 23, 2019 13:01:21 GMT -5
According to Bruce Prichard Vince envisioned Doink as a potential Wrestlemania main eventer weirdly enough so it's not as far fetched of an idea as you would think initially.
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Post by Gravedigger's Biscuits on Feb 23, 2019 13:10:44 GMT -5
Sounds like something that would have happened in WCW circa 1995.
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Post by Zen411 on Feb 23, 2019 17:07:12 GMT -5
It's not very realistic as Hogan was trying desperately to keep his credibility and status at the time. Yokozuna and giant Gonzalez were the ones he wanted to face. I can't see Hogan seeing value in feuding with a clown.
But had it happened, it could have been fun. I think doink would need an enforcer or an entourage to help protect him from Hogan. Not multiple doinks. Actual threatening wrestlers that would be followers of doink. Maybe crush joins doinks side after losing to him? Maybe someone like bigelow? The feud would be doink playing mind games with Hogan while his bodyguards protect him or have one off battles with Hogan. Doink would be the final boss and Hogan would be so frustrated along the way fans would be dying to see him finally get his hands on the clown.
Tricks like painting hogans face like a clown or attacking beefcake would have been great to get heat. Tear hulk bandanas off fans heads and tear up Hogan posters. Declare doinkamania. It would have worked.
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Post by WoodStoner1 on Feb 24, 2019 3:40:20 GMT -5
The real answer is Doink vs. Undertaker.
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Post by johnnyk9 on Feb 24, 2019 7:46:31 GMT -5
Hogan would've squashed Doink
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