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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2019 16:33:16 GMT -5
Anthem should bring up the gold scam
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2019 16:41:46 GMT -5
TNA's argument here seems pretty hollow. It deflects some of the points, certainly, but it does nothing to address that it's footage they didn't own and wrongfully deleted.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Mar 15, 2019 21:52:08 GMT -5
In all seriousness how much are those erased tapes worth?
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Post by octopus on Mar 16, 2019 5:47:49 GMT -5
In all seriousness how much are those erased tapes worth? $300,000 max. Don't forget the money Scott D'Amore allegedly loaned Jarrett to help started GFDub too. He never got it back. If this is the situation then Jarrett has f***ed up again, similar to the Hardy dispute.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Mar 16, 2019 5:51:41 GMT -5
Not a great deal, considering he had spent the best part of three years shopping the GFW brand around, trying to get partners or people to pick up the series, ending up shilling gold to keep the lights on.
As much as I actually like Nick Aldis, nobody is ever going to pay millions for 16 episodes of shows where he headlines. It would be different if the shows were packed with the final matches of mainstream stars, or home to the future of wrestling, but the shows were just more of what Impact was already offering.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Mar 19, 2019 12:26:46 GMT -5
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Mar 19, 2019 12:49:08 GMT -5
Not a great deal, considering he had spent the best part of three years shopping the GFW brand around, trying to get partners or people to pick up the series, ending up shilling gold to keep the lights on. As much as I actually like Nick Aldis, nobody is ever going to pay millions for 16 episodes of shows where he headlines. It would be different if the shows were packed with the final matches of mainstream stars, or home to the future of wrestling, but the shows were just more of what Impact was already offering. What? It's got loads of future stars in there. Who doesn't wanna see the early career of *checks notes* THE BOLLYWOOD BOYZ? F*** ME...
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Post by Joe Neglia on Mar 19, 2019 19:10:10 GMT -5
How are they claiming copyright on "Jeff Jarrett"? How does that even work?
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Post by cjh on Mar 19, 2019 19:33:28 GMT -5
How are they claiming copyright on "Jeff Jarrett"? How does that even work? He likely signed something that said for ____ years, Impact can license his name when third parties make Impact merchandise. If that's the case and the deal is still active, he can use the name in WWE since it's his real name, but something would have be worked out if WWE wanted him in their games, toy lines, etc. Something similar happened with King Kong Bundy, as he signed with Mattel to be in WWE's toy line, but he had to be billed as just "Bundy" due to the movie character King Kong being trademarked for toys.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Mar 19, 2019 19:42:52 GMT -5
How are they claiming copyright on "Jeff Jarrett"? How does that even work? He likely signed something that said for ____ years, Impact can license his name when third parties make Impact merchandise. If that's the case and the deal is still active, he can use the name in WWE since it's his real name, but something would have be worked out if WWE wanted him in their games, toy lines, etc. Something similar happened with King Kong Bundy, as he signed with Mattel to be in WWE's toy line, but he had to be billed as just "Bundy" due to the movie character King Kong being trademarked for toys. Those are trademarks, though, not copyright. And I thought they did a big PR statement releasing any claims they had to any Impact, TNA, etc names or gimmicks (after the Hardy fiasco ended in an effort to regain some credibility). Wouldn't that nuke any claims they have to Jarrett's name then?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2019 20:20:57 GMT -5
Not a great deal, considering he had spent the best part of three years shopping the GFW brand around, trying to get partners or people to pick up the series, ending up shilling gold to keep the lights on. As much as I actually like Nick Aldis, nobody is ever going to pay millions for 16 episodes of shows where he headlines. It would be different if the shows were packed with the final matches of mainstream stars, or home to the future of wrestling, but the shows were just more of what Impact was already offering. What? It's got loads of future stars in there. Who doesn't wanna see the early career of *checks notes* THE BOLLYWOOD BOYZ? F*** ME...
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Post by octopus on Mar 19, 2019 20:32:38 GMT -5
Jarrett traded copyright and trademark for a job with Impact. When he signed to be CEO or whatever the position was he was employed by Anthem. Jarrett got fired from the company due to his alcohol problems as well as pissing off nearly the entire roster, that is known as gross misconduct, which means he breached the agreement. Anthem still hold the cards. They bought the assets to TNA Entertainment LLC and Impact Ventures LLC and that includes trademarks and copyrights, how are they claiming "Jeff Jarrett"? Easy, when they bought the company that copyright was included. Who set up TNA Entertainment LLC which Anthem bought? Why Jeff Jarrett and Dixie Carter. Jarrett must have filed that copyright (and trademark) as part of TNA Entertainment LLC.
No that was after Jarrett got fired. D'Amore and Callis dropped the exclusive IP and image rights clauses.
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Post by cjh on Mar 19, 2019 20:53:15 GMT -5
He likely signed something that said for ____ years, Impact can license his name when third parties make Impact merchandise. If that's the case and the deal is still active, he can use the name in WWE since it's his real name, but something would have be worked out if WWE wanted him in their games, toy lines, etc. Something similar happened with King Kong Bundy, as he signed with Mattel to be in WWE's toy line, but he had to be billed as just "Bundy" due to the movie character King Kong being trademarked for toys. Those are trademarks, though, not copyright. And I thought they did a big PR statement releasing any claims they had to any Impact, TNA, etc names or gimmicks (after the Hardy fiasco ended in an effort to regain some credibility). Wouldn't that nuke any claims they have to Jarrett's name then? Well, yeah. Names are trademarked, not copyrighted. I'm saying Impact still could have trademarked his real name for merchandise. John Cena has said WWE has his name trademarked, too.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Mar 20, 2019 6:52:40 GMT -5
If Jarrett wanted the trademarks he probably could have gotten them if he'd asked, instead he started legal action for eleventy billion dollars for 16 episodes of mediocrity nobody else wanted so impact are under no legal obligation to hand over something they can use as part of the eventual settlement. Let's not forget, the new policy is voluntary on their part and was instituted to solve a problem that Jarrett created in the first place.
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Post by markymark on Mar 22, 2019 12:40:58 GMT -5
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Post by octopus on Mar 22, 2019 12:45:59 GMT -5
Jarrett asking for another extension aka Jarrett running out of ideas.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Mar 22, 2019 12:57:14 GMT -5
Jarrett asking for another extension aka Jarrett running out of ideas. Maybe, but it could also genuinely be issues of scheduling; Anthem have no incentive to agree to that extension if it's not a genuine one because a quick dismissal would be in their favour.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Mar 24, 2019 19:10:33 GMT -5
Jarrett asking for another extension aka Jarrett running out of ideas. Maybe, but it could also genuinely be issues of scheduling; Anthem have no incentive to agree to that extension if it's not a genuine one because a quick dismissal would be in their favour. Yeah, if Anthem thought Jarrett was scrambling they would have tried to challenge the extension.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Mar 24, 2019 20:27:46 GMT -5
The story of gfw is hilarious, Jeff tried to get on the njpw/bullet club train and it went to shit. Then he did the embarrassing baseball shows that nobody went to, then somehow conned anthem into buying his shit, now he’s suing them. Only in rasslin this happens.
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Post by toodarkmark on Mar 25, 2019 5:24:51 GMT -5
If Jarrett wanted the trademarks he probably could have gotten them if he'd asked, instead he started legal action for eleventy billion dollars for 16 episodes of mediocrity nobody else wanted so impact are under no legal obligation to hand over something they can use as part of the eventual settlement. Let's not forget, the new policy is voluntary on their part and was instituted to solve a problem that Jarrett created in the first place. Didnt Jarrett sue them for using his trademarks and force them to take down the content? So Anthem took down his content, and now hes suing them because he didnt have a back up? I mean, he got lawsuit happy in TN, when probably everything could have been settled through negotiations.
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