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Post by Feargus McReddit on Mar 4, 2019 19:06:54 GMT -5
I mean, if PWI doesn’t have it, I’ll retract what I said.
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Post by KofiMania on Mar 4, 2019 19:06:55 GMT -5
From 411mania, seeming to back up what I’ve been saying: As much as I want that to be true, Sportskeeda is actually one of the banned sites we can't reference in the forum rules and given 411 is saying they said it which comes from PWI, that's a shaky statement. Hypothetically if they went this route then they've purposefully made this storyline worse which is exactly the main reason why people were against that idea in the first place. That would be a killshot to a surefire storyline. I’m just saying if that is true, it basically goes along with exactly what I’ve been saying and have been getting ripped for the last 10 pages of this thread.
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Post by KofiMania on Mar 4, 2019 19:07:37 GMT -5
PWInsider Elite.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Mar 4, 2019 19:07:45 GMT -5
Yeah I have trouble believing Heyman is sitting there helping her brainstorm these tweets, Ronda's just embarrassing herself here and I have a hard time buying this is anything anyone has discussed, thought about, or worked out with another because all of those things would mean this shit wouldn't get through in the form it's in. "Per Sportskeeda" makes me not believe this right off the bat, but I also believe that this is damage control because if Ronda were tweeting these things on purpose she'd have better material. That's the point I'm making here. Even if Paul Heyman is telling her to go shooting, there'd be something better to this than the absolute piss that she's been putting out there.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2019 19:09:51 GMT -5
I’m just saying if that is true, it basically goes along with exactly what I’ve been saying and have been getting ripped for the last 10 pages of this thread. Are you more worried about the storyline being good or you being right? The whole reason we were against it is the fact that it makes the storyline worse, more complicated and it inserts elements into it that we don't want to see. If you're more concerned with being right than having a good product then be concerned with that but for the majority of us it's not about being right or being wrong, it's about the finished product.
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Mar 4, 2019 19:11:28 GMT -5
Goddamn I can't wait for this storyline to progress so we can talk about something else.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2019 19:13:15 GMT -5
I mean, Rousey turning heel to keep Becky out at this juncture really makes... very little sense. If they did it a few weeks ago, sure, but what, she tossed the belt at Stephanie and claimed she was forfeiting it to lull Becky into a false sense of security?
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Mar 4, 2019 19:15:19 GMT -5
I mean, Rousey turning heel to keep Becky out at this juncture really makes... very little sense. If they did it a few weeks ago, sure, but what, she tossed the belt at Stephanie and claimed she was forfeiting it to lull Becky into a false sense of security? I mean, they’ve done that exact storyline for years so probably? Heck, Vince was the ringleader of a storyline where he kidnapped his own daughter and had the rest of his family beaten up to...to be too lazy to fire a guy who was bothering him, I guess.
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Post by KofiMania on Mar 4, 2019 19:17:13 GMT -5
I’m just saying if that is true, it basically goes along with exactly what I’ve been saying and have been getting ripped for the last 10 pages of this thread. Are you more worried about the storyline being good or you being right? The whole reason we were against it is the fact that it makes the storyline worse, more complicated and it inserts elements into it that we don't want to see. If you're more concerned with being right than having a good product then be concerned with that but for the majority of us it's not about being right or being wrong, it's about the finished product. I’ve never said one way or another whether the storyline is better this way or not. It’s not about me being right. It’s about those that attacked Ronda in this thread. I was just defending Ronda when people kept insisting she’s so “soft” and the insults from Becky have gotten to her just like her UFC losses did.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Mar 4, 2019 19:18:14 GMT -5
Yep. That's purposefully ruining a storyline that was already great. Ronda going heel isn't the problem as I said she should have been a heel already but how it's happening? The fact Ronda is even a heel and still getting shown up lol? Man that is DUMB LMAO. I mean I'm still looking forward to the match itself, but my god, what are they doing? They've made this way more complicated than it needs to be. If it's true anyway. I mean, people were ready to go for this match after one promo, the night after the Rumble. Problem is, it was the 28th of January. They don’t actually fight until the 8th of April. They had NINE WEEKS OF TV TO FILL to sell a match that didn’t need any more selling. Question to the group... When were times in the “stars every week” weekly TV era when they got the Rumble-WrestleMania build right for the Rumble winner? I can think of Batista in 2005 off the top of my head, but the fact I can’t really think of many others tells me that this is something that they’ve usually struggled with.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2019 19:18:15 GMT -5
I mean, Rousey turning heel to keep Becky out at this juncture really makes... very little sense. If they did it a few weeks ago, sure, but what, she tossed the belt at Stephanie and claimed she was forfeiting it to lull Becky into a false sense of security? Should've just done the shit at TLC. They still could've done Ronda vs. Sasha at the Rumble the following month, but with Ronda as a heel instead of a face who all of a sudden really respects Sasha. Ronda's pissed because they love Becky over her and even cheered for Charlotte so she's going to make it her mission to destroy the 4 Horsewomen. Sasha at the Rumble, Bayley at EC or Fastlane, Becky and Charlotte at WM. Not perfect, but way better than what's going around now.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2019 19:21:00 GMT -5
Ronda's had so many chances to turn heel already so if they go this route I'm actually not going to be surprised. We know how this company works, they're not good at executing well with long planning, they suck at it. Just imagine how that meeting went
"So we're going to have Ronda say that Becky's arm bar is fake Vince and then she'll say it's a dick, we're gonna bring more of Ronda's transphobia to the limelight" "..............." "I'm not done yet, that'll make Becky put Ronda's husband's face on the arm" "..............." "Then Vince, then Ronda's gonna break kayfabe and say she's gonna go off script, what do you think?" "..............." "Ok, lemme tell you more, anyway, she's then gonna say that Becky needs to lawyer up!" "...........alright"
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2019 19:24:26 GMT -5
I mean I'm still looking forward to the match itself, but my god, what are they doing? They've made this way more complicated than it needs to be. If it's true anyway. I mean, people were ready to go for this match after one promo, the night after the Rumble. Problem is, it was the 28th of January. They don’t actually fight until the 8th of April. They had NINE WEEKS OF TV TO FILL to sell a match that didn’t need any more selling. Question to the group... When were times in the “stars every week” weekly TV era when they got the Rumble-WrestleMania build right for the Rumble winner? I can think of Batista in 2005 off the top of my head, but the fact I can’t really think of many others tells me that this is something that they’ve usually struggled with. It's too bad, because that's the hottest I've seen a crowd for a WWE women's segment that didn't involve one of them taking their clothes off.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2019 19:26:47 GMT -5
I’ve never said one way or another whether the storyline is better this way or not. It’s not about me being right. It’s about those that attacked Ronda in this thread. I was just defending Ronda when people kept insisting she’s so “soft” and the insults from Becky have gotten to her just like her UFC losses did. Ronda's soft man. I don't know why you're defending her when she herself has made comments about her attitude in the past. We even saw her tell a fan "you're not a man" after the fan said they wanted Becky after that Survivor Series beatdown.
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Post by KofiMania on Mar 4, 2019 19:28:59 GMT -5
I’ve never said one way or another whether the storyline is better this way or not. It’s not about me being right. It’s about those that attacked Ronda in this thread. I was just defending Ronda when people kept insisting she’s so “soft” and the insults from Becky have gotten to her just like her UFC losses did. Ronda's soft man. I don't know why you're defending her when she herself has made comments about her attitude in the past. We even saw her tell a fan "you're not a man" after the fan said they wanted Becky after that Survivor Series beatdown. I’m well aware and not defending her past, I’m defending the allegations that her tweets in the past week were legit because she’s soft. Which is what a lot of people were saying.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Mar 4, 2019 19:29:57 GMT -5
The fact Reigns literally spilled blood for this company and yet he lost to silence after all the years of the Lesnar stuff is just gross. God bless Reigns, I hope he never has to deal with that again. Shit, Orton agreed to let Lesnar elbow him into oblivion for this company and nobody gave a shit. WWE needs to stop giving him the Main Event. Well in Orton case he got the RR win and title
He had a power play in view
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2019 19:31:59 GMT -5
Shit, Orton agreed to let Lesnar elbow him into oblivion for this company and nobody gave a shit. WWE needs to stop giving him the Main Event. Well in Orton case he got the RR win and title
He had a power play in view
Actually, Orton just went in Vince's office and randomly started twerking. Vince laughed his ass off and was like, "Goddamnit Randy, we're going to put the championship back on you pal."
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2019 19:32:23 GMT -5
The fact Reigns literally spilled blood for this company and yet he lost to silence after all the years of the Lesnar stuff is just gross. God bless Reigns, I hope he never has to deal with that again. Shit, Orton agreed to let Lesnar elbow him into oblivion for this company and nobody gave a shit. WWE needs to stop giving him the Main Event. I'm not sure which aspect of the Lesnar / Orton thing was dumber. - Their reaction to Brock failing a drug test being, "We need to make him look STRONGER, this has hurt his image!" - The fact that after having Orton's brains scrambled to rehab Brock, Lesnar's next match was losing in three moves.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2019 19:35:32 GMT -5
Should've just done the shit at TLC. They still could've done Ronda vs. Sasha at the Rumble the following month, but with Ronda as a heel instead of a face who all of a sudden really respects Sasha. Ronda's pissed because they love Becky over her and even cheered for Charlotte so she's going to make it her mission to destroy the 4 Horsewomen. Sasha at the Rumble, Bayley at EC or Fastlane, Becky and Charlotte at WM. Not perfect, but way better than what's going around now. Hell, actually we could have seen Sasha - Rumble
Charlotte - Elimination Chamber Bayley - Fastlane (while we also get Becky/Charlotte)
Becky - WM It would have made more sense, it would have tied up Charlotte/Ronda, it would have tied up Becky/Charlotte and it sets up Becky/Ronda. Instead we get this current storyline.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2019 19:38:44 GMT -5
Should've just done the shit at TLC. They still could've done Ronda vs. Sasha at the Rumble the following month, but with Ronda as a heel instead of a face who all of a sudden really respects Sasha. Ronda's pissed because they love Becky over her and even cheered for Charlotte so she's going to make it her mission to destroy the 4 Horsewomen. Sasha at the Rumble, Bayley at EC or Fastlane, Becky and Charlotte at WM. Not perfect, but way better than what's going around now. Hell, actually we could have seen Sasha - Rumble
Charlotte - Elimination Chamber Bayley - Fastlane (while we also get Becky/Charlotte)
Becky - WM It would have made more sense, it would have tied up Charlotte/Ronda, it would have tied up Becky/Charlotte and it sets up Becky/Ronda. Instead we get this current storyline.
and the cool thing about it is the other three can get salty (*Lana voice*) over Becky being the only one to beat Ronda, setting up two new challengers in Sasha and Bayley with Charlotte being in the mix as well. That changes plans for the Women's Tag Titles, though, so not perfect like I said. Still better.
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