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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Mar 2, 2019 19:14:48 GMT -5
How much to tell Gram Gram to kick the bucket before she spends all my inheritance on caramels? She's not spending it all on caramels. There are some Werther's Originals in there too. She only gives us store brand though!? That cheap whor- |
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Post by Milkman Norm on Mar 2, 2019 19:25:16 GMT -5
I think the Old WWWF audience that loved Bruno and Pedro tuned out during the Hogan era. So by the late 90's they weren't around to tune out in the first place.
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Post by wildojinx on Mar 2, 2019 19:27:59 GMT -5
How much to tell Gram Gram to kick the bucket before she spends all my inheritance on caramels? She's not spending it all on caramels. There are some Werther's Originals in there too. No Mary Jane's? (no, not those) |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2019 19:32:08 GMT -5
I'd like to book you for my Great Gram Gram's 99th birthday party, what are your rates? Depends. Are we talking balloon animals or Backstreet Boys karaoke? There are different price points.  |
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Post by DZ: WF Legacy on Mar 2, 2019 19:32:22 GMT -5
I remember there was definitely some push-back against it online during my experience as a kid on forums in the late 90s. I recall a lot of the NWA/mid-80s WWF crowd of adults had issues with the over-reliance on run-ins and the sleazy aspects of the time. But that period of wrestling was so thrilling that it was hard to not watch regardless. I know my friend's uncle felt that way, too. We watched SummerSlam '99 over at his house, and he just kept going on and on about the golden years. He didn't outright hate it, he just saw a lot of what we as teenagers overlooked due to wrestling being so white hot and exciting and new to us. We were the perfect age demographic for it: it was cool to 20-somethings, so that trinkled down into being that cool thing for us that 'responsible adults' discouraged us from watching, much like South Park.
WCW becoming a dumpster fire by the end united a lot of us, though.
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Post by unc40 on Mar 3, 2019 0:43:56 GMT -5
The WWE took a step forward only to go two steps back. They turned off older fans during the Attitude Era and when the PG Era began the Attitude Era fans left.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2019 0:43:57 GMT -5
My dad was an uptight guy, and he loved the Attitude Era.
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Post by benstudd on Mar 3, 2019 3:12:53 GMT -5
When you watch wrestling from the 80s you definitely see people of all ages whereas yea during the MNW the crowd was pretty much young men and hot girls. Now you see rarely old people in the crowd now which means that not only older people left during the MNW but adults that could have watched after the AE who could be have been old now also did not come back. So the WWE and those run wrestling failed to keep fans or bring others backs. It's as if it skipped a generation somehow.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2019 3:46:52 GMT -5
From my experience with people who didn't like the MMW era and afterward, the sleaze wasn't the issue; I heard the same thing from everyone - "all they do anymore is just talk."
That, along with "everything has to be about those McMahons" is what turned off a crowd that just wanted to watch wrestling.
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Post by ERON on Mar 3, 2019 10:31:23 GMT -5
They watched WCW instead. Then when WCW died, the ensuing shit years of WWE turned off older fans. That sums up my experience perfectly. I got so turned off by the raunch that WWF eventually became just something to flip to while WCW was at commercial. I gave them another chance after the buyout, but the bungling of the InVasion followed by stuff like the Kiss My Ass Club, Katie Vick, and HLA turned me off of WWE and wrestling in general until the PG Era. |
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Post by Mecca on Mar 3, 2019 10:52:41 GMT -5
From my experience with people who didn't like the MMW era and afterward, the sleaze wasn't the issue; I heard the same thing from everyone - "all they do anymore is just talk." That, along with "everything has to be about those McMahons" is what turned off a crowd that just wanted to watch wrestling. The problems with that view is pretty simple though, all they do is talk is actually fine when the guys are interesting. Today you see a product built much more on longer matches and wrestling and guess what...everyone thinks it's boring. I was always a match and talent fan always..then I realized even if the guy is a great talent if there is nothing to sell you on the character or the match why the f*** should I care about it? What people really long for from the attitude era was that everyone had a character and something to do. Now we have guys that disappear for months, have these bland characters that no one can remember. The storylines are very bland, nothing really interesting happens. Say what you will but there is an element of crash tv that was helpful in the sense that it gave everyone something to do and you had storyline blending at times where today that is rare. Today booking is just lazy, they don't use 3 hours to give everyone something to do and make the matches shorter to give you a reason to watch longer PPV ones..they just stretch out match lengths to give themselves an easier time. |
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