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Post by Hit Girl on Mar 3, 2019 15:57:40 GMT -5
His beatdown of David Flair will always be appreciated by me.
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Post by Limity (BLM) on Mar 3, 2019 15:59:36 GMT -5
Should have had BikerKane too. Better yet, Corporate Kane and his rebellious brother Bikertaker. And of course their nosey neighbor DDP. I smell a sitcom!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2019 16:00:39 GMT -5
Evil Biker Taker is like 2001 heel Austin now for me, where I didn't appreciate it at the time because I was young but now I love it.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Mar 3, 2019 16:05:49 GMT -5
I liked the build up to it but hated the execution. The Wrestlemania 20 Undertaker was underwhelming for me. It was Biker Taker in an Undertaker's hat and slightly longer hair. Granted he evolved to have the best run of his career, still didn't like the Wrestlemania 20 match or his look. The entrance and reaction was priceless, more I think because of Paul Bearer but I agree, the look was terrible. I loved the deadman and the run he had but the look he had since bring it back all, been underwhelming.The the long singlet wasn't much better IMO. Only thing I really like look wise when he brought out his attitude era entrance gear when he faced Edge and the shredder looking jacket against HHH in HIAC. The long hair was good until the hairline started to really show.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2019 17:54:51 GMT -5
His beatdown of David Flair will always be appreciated by me. "You have any sisters?"
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Post by héad.casé on Mar 3, 2019 18:09:25 GMT -5
I remember my friends and I all got together and watched WM 20, and we kind of expected the Deadman gimmick to return based on the build to the match, but what we didn’t expect was hearing Paul Bearer’s “OH YEESSSSSS” right before Taker walked out. We all shouted “PAUL BEARER!!” and started marking out that they were together again.
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Post by Perfect Timing on Mar 3, 2019 18:14:08 GMT -5
2002 BikerTaker was the best. That No shits giving period where he made Tommy Dreamer drink his tobacco spit and then turned face few months later. You're gonna Pay V1 > any nu metal band mid life crisis theme.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Mar 3, 2019 18:48:27 GMT -5
And it took him a couple of years to have good matches as the Deadman again. 2004 to early 2005 for the Undertaker was one of the most wrestlecraptastic years ever.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2019 19:01:39 GMT -5
And it took him a couple of years to have good matches as the Deadman again. 2004 to early 2005 for the Undertaker was one of the most wrestlecraptastic years ever. I was 12/13 at the time and the little interest I had left in WWE was killed off by that terrible Undertaker/Dudleyz feud (as well as the rest of 2004 SD in general) and HHH beating Orton at Unforgiven.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Mar 3, 2019 19:04:48 GMT -5
And it took him a couple of years to have good matches as the Deadman again. 2004 to early 2005 for the Undertaker was one of the most wrestlecraptastic years ever. I was 12/13 at the time and the little interest I had left in WWE was killed off by that terrible Undertaker/Dudleyz feud (as well as the rest of 2004 SD in general) and HHH beating Orton at Unforgiven. That Dudley/Taker thing is proof that you have to be very careful when joking around with Vince. A writer joked about putting Paul Bearer in a concrete crypt and he went with it. The other writers thought Vince was joking.
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Post by arrogantmodel on Mar 3, 2019 23:02:52 GMT -5
And a GIF of Taker shaking his head in disappointment after the crowd said "WHA...Booooooo!" I loved that. Like he was saying "C'mon...really guys?" Heel Bikertaker was great because his sole purpose was beating the shit out of people. Though, to be fair I always thought his feud with Lesnar in the fall of 02 (the HITC in particular) is what truly MADE Brock. That HIAC is brutal and fantastic. Those guys were bleeding like crazy. Hell, even Heyman bleeds, and he's OUTSIDE the cell. That match is so good, even I'm exhausted after just watching it. Like, wow...those guys went off on each other. Brock in the Cell, Flair at Mania, Ladder match with Hardy, Triple H at X-7, and the triple threat with Rock and Angle are all great matches that I can watch over and over. Like others have said, it started out kind of "meh," but damn did it get good later on.
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Post by Limity (BLM) on Mar 3, 2019 23:06:11 GMT -5
I loved that. Like he was saying "C'mon...really guys?" Heel Bikertaker was great because his sole purpose was beating the shit out of people. Though, to be fair I always thought his feud with Lesnar in the fall of 02 (the HITC in particular) is what truly MADE Brock. That HIAC is brutal and fantastic. Those guys were bleeding like crazy. Hell, even Heyman bleeds, and he's OUTSIDE the cell. That match is so good, even I'm exhausted after just watching it. Like, wow...those guys went off on each other. That's a great way to describe that match, I know what you mean. By the end, you, the viewer, are just as drained.
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Post by jivesoulbrah on Mar 3, 2019 23:16:36 GMT -5
Fans were dying for him to go back to the deadman gimmick.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2019 23:56:14 GMT -5
Bikertaker/Big Evil showed me that he could be really, really good on the microphone. The Deadman incarnations, for the most part, limited him to "talk slowly and be spooky".
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Post by Jonathan Michaels on Mar 4, 2019 2:35:39 GMT -5
I remember my friends and I all got together and watched WM 20, and we kind of expected the Deadman gimmick to return based on the build to the match, but what we didn’t expect was hearing Paul Bearer’s “OH YEESSSSSS” right before Taker walked out. We all shouted “PAUL BEARER!!” and started marking out that they were together again. “YOU’RE NO SON OF MINE!”
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Post by paulbearer on Mar 4, 2019 4:04:48 GMT -5
I remember my friends and I all got together and watched WM 20, and we kind of expected the Deadman gimmick to return based on the build to the match, but what we didn’t expect was hearing Paul Bearer’s “OH YEESSSSSS” right before Taker walked out. We all shouted “PAUL BEARER!!” and started marking out that they were together again. It is rude to yell , you know....my "clients" dont yell (but the customers do , when they get my bill) , they're pretty quiet , ohhh yes
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 4, 2019 5:07:04 GMT -5
I remember my friends and I all got together and watched WM 20, and we kind of expected the Deadman gimmick to return based on the build to the match, but what we didn’t expect was hearing Paul Bearer’s “OH YEESSSSSS” right before Taker walked out. We all shouted “PAUL BEARER!!” and started marking out that they were together again. Paul added so much to it, when they wrote him out so quickly it effing sucked.
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Post by Mozenrath on Mar 4, 2019 5:20:14 GMT -5
It was the right move, but I understand Undertaker's trepidation. A nostalgia act can be potentially perilous, especially in wrestling. There's a real fine line between, "oh dude, awesome" and "this seriously all they've got left?" Always makes me think of Foley's fears in I think Foley is Good that he was going to be relegated obsolescence in I think 1999, that "used to be" meant very little in wrestling, and throwing out the Road Warriors as an example of guys who had been main eventers but who were by the late 90s getting mocked behind their back in the locker room as has-beens.
If Undertaker felt he still had a lot left to give, and clearly he did feel that way, then he was taking a real leap of faith. Fortunately, it paid off.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Mar 4, 2019 5:42:54 GMT -5
ABA was my favorite version of the character. still felt like Undertaker but it humanized him and didn't feel silly the way Undertaker Classic often did.
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Post by héad.casé on Mar 4, 2019 6:12:40 GMT -5
With the whole "He didn't want to go back to working the slow Deadman in ring style again" - I get it, because you always want to show you can do more than you're capable of, but it could've saved him taking bumps he didn't need to take.
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