riseofsetian1981
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Mar 4, 2019 20:04:34 GMT -5
Swagger had a great thing going when he was receiving his push with Zeb Colter. I wish he hadn't screwed things up as the gimmick worked and they both were receiving a lot of heat out of it.
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Post by fw91 on Mar 4, 2019 20:05:36 GMT -5
If he didn't get busted with pot, I think We The People heel Swagger may have took him somewhere.
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Post by Sephiroth on Mar 4, 2019 20:27:49 GMT -5
Swagger could have been a lot more than he ultimately was, but he never really got used right. HE actually had a great look and was great in the ring-but he had all the charisma of granite. Its no secret why he got over with Zeb-he needed someone to do the talking. Or he needed to be part of a tag team with a partner who was better on the mic, to be the Billy Gunn to someone else’s Road Dogg.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2019 20:40:09 GMT -5
I like his point about the offseason. I doubt they'd even consider taking a 3 month break every year, but they could at least rotate some talent in and out for a couple months. A guy like AJ, who's super stale (still popular, but stale) would benefit from being off. One of the things they've done really well with Becky since SummerSlam (even with the recent hiccups in the Ronda/Charlotte feud) is limit her appearances and keep her fresh. She's had maybe 4 matches on TV since then and when she shows up on TV, it's usually for only one segment before she peaces out. It leaves me wanting more of THE MAN. Just look at how fresh folks feel after returning from injury.
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Post by SparkyPlugg on Mar 4, 2019 21:30:23 GMT -5
Honestly if he comes back in the shape that he was in for his MMA fight and ditches the singlet, I think the sky’s the limit for Swagger.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Mar 4, 2019 21:37:17 GMT -5
Dum dum they gave you a huge push and you got caught with pot while doing a DUI, why would they ever trust you again?
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Mar 4, 2019 21:38:06 GMT -5
If he didn't get busted with pot, I think We The People heel Swagger may have took him somewhere. Dutch Mantell said on his podcast that Jack was supposed to win the belt at wm.
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riseofsetian1981
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Mar 4, 2019 23:00:14 GMT -5
Dum dum they gave you a huge push and you got caught with pot while doing a DUI, why would they ever trust you again? They trusted Jeff Hardy after his numerous screw-ups. Yes, it's true that Jeff drew money and was/is massively over with the crowd. They could've given Swagger another chance regardless of the incident.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Mar 4, 2019 23:05:25 GMT -5
Dum dum they gave you a huge push and you got caught with pot while doing a DUI, why would they ever trust you again? They trusted Jeff Hardy after his numerous screw-ups. Yes, it's true that Jeff drew money and was/is massively over with the crowd. They could've given Swagger another chance regardless of the incident. Well unfortunately like you said, Jeff draws money, Jackie can’t draw a breath.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2019 23:05:26 GMT -5
I’m so annoyed with these people thinking “hey I’ll be an mma guy” is a gimmick/angle. Plus they’ll never touch the greatest version of this of all-time:
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2019 0:05:33 GMT -5
I’m so annoyed with these people thinking “hey I’ll be an mma guy” is a gimmick/angle. Plus they’ll never touch the greatest version of this of all-time: As good as the HHH/Steph vs. Angle/Ronda match turned out to be last year, I'm still sad we didn't get MMA Steph.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Mar 5, 2019 0:08:29 GMT -5
Wrestlers are always so desperate to be seen as legitimate.
Remember when Rock said that he would've totally been an MMA fighter if the UFC had been around when his football career ended?
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Mar 5, 2019 0:19:03 GMT -5
I'm still trying to get the mods here to let me go train MMA for a few months. Look, we keep telling you that you can go and do that. We’re just not going to promote you to Mod just because you won some MMA fights. We're sending you back to NXT until you know how to appraise mod qualities. Enough of your carelessness!
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Post by schma on Mar 5, 2019 1:49:59 GMT -5
Honestly, when Ryback suggested the MMA training it came off as dumb. However, Swagger had a legit amateur wrestling background, just like Brock did. Granted he's no Brock but I could see him seeing something like that and genuinely thinking he could make a go of it/turn it into a story for his return.
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Post by Cvslfc123 on Mar 5, 2019 4:14:34 GMT -5
If he didn't get busted with pot, I think We The People heel Swagger may have took him somewhere. Hell, they even gave him the title in 2010 and he couldn't do anything with it. I'll never forget him looking like the most miserable bastard in the world as soon the moment he won it.
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Post by KobashiChop on Mar 5, 2019 5:44:27 GMT -5
Its all good wanting to be the MMA guy but you actually have to win fights and that's a big gamble when you're banking on it for your wrestling gimmick.
Also We The People Swagger was great as a face until he lost the feud to Rusev. With Zeb he was OVER.
While it was a great idea, that gimmick as a heel unfortunately has to contend with the fact that it was not going to be booed in certain territories. That's a hard wall to get over.
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Post by A damn road sign on Mar 5, 2019 8:17:02 GMT -5
He should’ve pitched being Todo Americano.
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