cjh
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Post by cjh on Mar 9, 2019 10:52:58 GMT -5
www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZghSF2ES0wwww.youtube.com/watch?v=ArX_vEq85Hg (U.S. version with Jim Ross and Mr. Perfect) The match above is from Superstars in 1996 with Kevin Kelly and Gorilla Monsoon on commentary for the UK version of the show. During it, Gorilla..... - repeatedly mentions how this Diesel is not Kevin Nash - responds to Kelly claiming Jim Ross has more things planned by saying, "That's what Hitler said, too." I'd like to hear more of Gorilla's commentary during his time as WWF President as it wasn't ever used on U.S. TV.
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Post by Jumpin' Jesse Walsh on Mar 9, 2019 11:26:27 GMT -5
I know there's some Gorilla commentary from 1998 out there. It's a such a trip to hear him on Attitude Era broadcasts.
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Post by johnnyk9 on Mar 9, 2019 11:28:59 GMT -5
he did the UK Superstars in 1998 with Kevin Kelly and Michael which were basically Shotgun matches up until I believe the fall of 1998
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Post by petef3 on Mar 9, 2019 13:12:44 GMT -5
Monsoon was on Raw in a satellite segment with JR calling him out for Nash and Hall being under contract with "another organization," so that was the proper storyline he was putting over.
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Post by cjh on Mar 9, 2019 13:38:38 GMT -5
Monsoon was on Raw in a satellite segment with JR calling him out for Nash and Hall being under contract with "another organization," so that was the proper storyline he was putting over. Yeah, I remember that. His delivery here and the way he mentioned it multiple times just came across to me as him thinking the angle was bad and not being scared to say so. Something similar happened in 1998 where the Jackyl came down on his pulpit from the rafters to cut a promo, and Monsoon just said "pro wrestling has certainly changed, hasn't it?"
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Post by SAJ Forth on Mar 10, 2019 3:25:52 GMT -5
I enjoy this version.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Mar 10, 2019 8:09:47 GMT -5
- responds to Kelly claiming Jim Ross has more things planned by saying, "That's what Hitler said, too." I did a spit take when I heard that, and it almost made me want to create this exact thread. Who'd have ever thought they'd hear f***ing Hitler just casually name dropped into a piece of wrestling commentary? And in reference to Good Ol' J.R.!
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Post by The 1Watcher Experience on Mar 10, 2019 9:11:55 GMT -5
I remember King Kong Bundy being pissed because Monsoon kept saying Bundy will wrestle for food and he was making cracks about his weight. Bundy thought that was kind of low. He felt it just buried him and did nothing to get him over.
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Post by HMARK Center on Mar 10, 2019 12:37:38 GMT -5
Always wondered if Gorilla during this time was being hit both by how the industry was changing, but also by his desire to keep going in the industry after Joey Marella's death. I remember when reading Bret Hart's autobiography that WWF Magazine released the "Killer Kalendar" to hype up house shows, and how some of the boys saw Joey's death as a product of that "Kalendar"; wouldn't be able to blame his father if he felt similarly at all.
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Post by Paul on Mar 10, 2019 14:27:06 GMT -5
Gorilla was just cranky and depressed at this point and I can't really blame him. He had a job for life in the company so he knew he could say pretty much anything and not face any repercussions.
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Post by I'm Team Bayley and Indi on Mar 10, 2019 14:35:25 GMT -5
Can't remember how long until before his death Monsoon did commentary for the UK broadcast but can say with certainty he was still doing it around Wrestlemania XV, because I remember them acknowledging the ovation he got from the crowd to him when he was one of the judges for the Bart Gunn/Butterbean "match"
Also I've said this before Dr. Tom Prichard was usually one of his co-commentators and I enjoyed their chemistry together
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Post by auph10imitated on Mar 10, 2019 15:15:22 GMT -5
I have stuff on tape as late as November 1998 on Superstars were he was doing commentary with Terry Taylor. I think a few people did a stint with him
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cjh
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Post by cjh on Mar 10, 2019 16:57:36 GMT -5
I have stuff on tape as late as November 1998 on Superstars were he was doing commentary with Terry Taylor. I think a few people did a stint with him Are you sure it wasn't someone else with Monsoon? Taylor was still working for WCW in November 1998.
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Post by Nr1Humanoid on Mar 10, 2019 17:52:03 GMT -5
Gorilla could become boring very quickly without a quality heel to bounce off of.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2019 0:32:46 GMT -5
I remember King Kong Bundy being pissed because Monsoon kept saying Bundy will wrestle for food and he was making cracks about his weight. Bundy thought that was kind of low. He felt it just buried him and did nothing to get him over. I’ve been going through the 80’s primtime’s and every week he calls Bundy the fast food king claiming he ate 42 hamburgers of the whooper variety before match and 9 whole turkeys in one sitting on thanksgiving Heenan called Gorilla out on that one saying it was only 6.
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Post by DZ: WF Legacy on Mar 11, 2019 0:58:10 GMT -5
Kelly: "Jim Ross has said this is not the end...that there will be other things planned for the World Wrestling Federation." Gorilla: "Well, that's what Hitler said, too."
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Post by corndog on Mar 11, 2019 2:07:03 GMT -5
I want more of this!
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Post by chazraps on Mar 11, 2019 2:50:58 GMT -5
"Salvatore Sincere will be in action!"
"Again?"
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Mar 11, 2019 3:00:31 GMT -5
I wish the footage of Gorilla doing commentary for that 1998 battle royal on Shotgun still existed. You can find the Cornette and Kevin Kelly version easily, but the international broadcast with Gorilla doing commentary seems to have been lost to copyright strikes.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2019 6:49:34 GMT -5
Joey's death really hit him hard. I believe Prichard said on that recent podcast about Monsoon that he noted a definite change in Gorilla after July 1994. Can't say I'm surprised his late '90s fill-in commentary - bouncing off heels that weren't Bobby or Jesse - was DGAF sounding. He was probably trying to put his all into it, but (a) he didn't have to and maybe he finally understood that, and (b) his heart just wasn't in it anymore. I wish the footage of Gorilla doing commentary for that 1998 battle royal on Shotgun still existed. You can find the Cornette and Kevin Kelly version easily, but the international broadcast with Gorilla doing commentary seems to have been lost to copyright strikes. Oh dammit, really? That was probably the 1 bit of late '90s Gorilla commentary I'd heard and remembered (and basically disliked because he really didn't sound like the Gorilla I remembered). ...and Monsoon just said "pro wrestling has certainly changed, hasn't it?" Oof. Calling it "pro wrestling" in 1998 sure sounds like he didn't have any cares left whatsoever. Surprised that made it to air.
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