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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2019 13:22:47 GMT -5
I think even if Becky’s winning at Mania (my guess), I think for the build she needs to actually face adversity and not smugly no-sell it or explain away getting brutally beaten by saying she’s in her opponent’s head. (Which has been my issue. Sure the injury/suspension stuff is overdone, but if Becky doesn’t care about it, why should we care?) Plus as talented as Charlotte is, her booking has been very weak for months now, so it’d be nice if she gets something along the way to look more credible. Becky's one of the very few babyfaces they have who can get sympathy, so use that to your advantage and have her get roughed up a little bit before WM. It makes sense for her character to keep talking shit, but she shouldn't be laughing it all off. Hell, they got me pissed last week when Ronda attacked her and I rarely ever emotionally invested in this anymore, so kinda sucked that they negated that the following night with that unnecessary segment on SD. I don't know how much sway she has (if any), but I know she pays attention to what fans are saying and gets what got her so over in the first place so hopefully she becomes more of a mix between The Man and Becky Balboa in the lead up to this.
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Post by mattperiolat on Mar 10, 2019 14:14:23 GMT -5
Well, that does pose an interesting wrinkle. Say Becky wins by submitting Charlotte, not Rhonda. Does that taint the win? It also leaves the door open for more Becky/Rhonda if Rhonda stays. I’d be OK with that, if not content. As a Becky mark the most important thing for me is that she wins, but if Ronda's leaving for a while, might as well have her tap and have a spectacular exit on the Raw the night after. Maybe I'm just being way too picky but while I love Becky and Charlotte's chemistry, she's already beaten Charlotte so much that it won't be as big of a deal if she pins or submits her instead of Ronda. True, especially if Becky beats Charlotte tonight (hint, hint - she better), then beating Charlotte at Mania means nothing. Has to be Rhonda going down or the scripting since Nia broke her face means nothing. The Lynch Era must begin at Mania and Rhonda must go down.
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Post by HMARK Center on Mar 10, 2019 14:31:03 GMT -5
Wait, this match tonight is for the title, not a "name the official number 1 contender" match?
Good Lord, this thing is too far gone.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Mar 10, 2019 14:39:39 GMT -5
Wait, this match tonight is for the title, not a "name the official number 1 contender" match? Good Lord, this thing is too far gone. Wait, WHAT??? I swear to god, all they had to do was book Ronda strong on RAW, Becky strong on SmackDown, and build anticipation to them finally clashing at Mania. Their insistence on adding Charlotte has turned this whole thing into a convoluted mess.
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Post by Citizen Snips on Mar 10, 2019 14:42:45 GMT -5
Wait, this match tonight is for the title, not a "name the official number 1 contender" match? Good Lord, this thing is too far gone. "In light of Rousey’s actions, it was determined that she had, in fact, vacated the title. In the wake of that news, it was also announced that Becky had been reinstated and would face Charlotte to crown a new Raw Women’s Champion. However, before Raw ended, Rousey appeared before the WWE Universe and made it clear she never vacated the title, unleashing a war of words on all parties involved. As a result, Becky Lynch will still battle Charlotte Flair at WWE Fastlane this Sunday, but not for the Raw Women’s Title. Instead, if Lynch wins, she will be added to the Raw Women’s Championship Match between Rousey and Flair at WrestleMania 35. " I think they must have realized the vacating the title thing was too confusing even for them. Just a match for Becky to get into Mania.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2019 14:54:11 GMT -5
Becky's career is on the line tonight, too, for some reason.
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Post by mattperiolat on Mar 10, 2019 15:07:08 GMT -5
Becky's career is on the line tonight, too, for some reason. Who the blank is booking this? It’s SIMPLE, stop making so dam ridiculous!
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Post by karl100589 on Mar 10, 2019 15:52:08 GMT -5
I'd have Becky vs Charlotte end with Becky winning via shenanigans. She gets added to the Mania match as per the stipulation but Charlotte feels agrieved about how it happened, this kills a few more weeks of the build.
At the same time, a heel Ronda works singles and tag matches against lower carders, but instead of a competitive wrestling style match Ronda "shoots", stiff punches, judo throw and armbar with every fight being around 30 seconds. It culminates in a tag match with Nattie where after winning Ronda turns on Nattie and armbars her. To Ronda the sport is fake and she's proving it by "legitimately" destroying everyone.
Soon, Becky and Charlotte realise they have a common enemy to work against. Can they put their differences aside and stop someone who threatens their industry. Ronda though welcomes the duel challenge; she's so tough she could beat both at the same time.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2019 15:56:10 GMT -5
Becky's career is on the line tonight, too, for some reason. Who the blank is booking this? It’s SIMPLE, stop making so dam ridiculous! Yeah, the stipulation is if she wins she goes to WM but if she loses "she's done" and I'm not sure how else we're supposed to take that. Even her latest tweet last night said her career's on the line. It's a mess, but the match should be really good as usual.
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Post by Prince Petty on Mar 10, 2019 16:50:26 GMT -5
So the match tonight? Do not give away a clean finish. It would take away from the Wrestlemania match, and Becky has enough recent wins over Charlotte.
What I'd do is this - play up Ronda's 'loose cannon' heel weirdness, and have her come out to blatantly attack Charlotte and end the match. Then she and Becky have a stare-down, making it clear that Ronda wants Becky in the match, because she wants to beat her. That's something you can do with Ronda, because anyone can buy that she's cocky and pissed enough to want her tormentor and main rival in the ring.
I don't think the match is for the title, and I really hope it's not. Because it makes no f***ing sense, and it would rob the Wrestlemania match of a lot of its impact. That should be about Ronda losing and Becky winning. That's the 'Wrestlemania moment' that the first women's main event needs.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Mar 10, 2019 17:32:52 GMT -5
So the match tonight? Do not give away a clean finish. It would take away from the Wrestlemania match, and Becky has enough recent wins over Charlotte. What I'd do is this - play up Ronda's 'loose cannon' heel weirdness, and have her come out to blatantly attack Charlotte and end the match. Then she and Becky have a stare-down, making it clear that Ronda wants Becky in the match, because she wants to beat her. That's something you can do with Ronda, because anyone can buy that she's cocky and pissed enough to want her tormentor and main rival in the ring. I don't think the match is for the title, and I really hope it's not. Because it makes no f***ing sense, and it would rob the Wrestlemania match of a lot of its impact. That should be about Ronda losing and Becky winning. That's the 'Wrestlemania moment' that the first women's main event needs. And about Charlotte... getting another accolade for some reason.
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Post by HMARK Center on Mar 10, 2019 18:14:25 GMT -5
Wait, this match tonight is for the title, not a "name the official number 1 contender" match? Good Lord, this thing is too far gone. "In light of Rousey’s actions, it was determined that she had, in fact, vacated the title. In the wake of that news, it was also announced that Becky had been reinstated and would face Charlotte to crown a new Raw Women’s Champion. However, before Raw ended, Rousey appeared before the WWE Universe and made it clear she never vacated the title, unleashing a war of words on all parties involved. As a result, Becky Lynch will still battle Charlotte Flair at WWE Fastlane this Sunday, but not for the Raw Women’s Title. Instead, if Lynch wins, she will be added to the Raw Women’s Championship Match between Rousey and Flair at WrestleMania 35. " I think they must have realized the vacating the title thing was too confusing even for them. Just a match for Becky to get into Mania. That's good, at least, but it's saying something that it's an improvement that the Royal Rumble winner has to win a match after the Rumble to get into the title match they already won the chance to be in at WM. ...oh no, I've gone cross-eyed.
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Post by sportatorium on Mar 10, 2019 18:25:04 GMT -5
You’ve gone this far, just keep overbooking it to death, get Becky the win at Mania and blow/pay off the feud. Then, keep the three of them as far away from each other as possible.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2019 21:55:09 GMT -5
*deepest of sighs*
I just can't get my hopes up anymore, tonight showed me these people don't know what they're doing. It's nothing malicious, they just thought adding all these different layers to the story would make it even more intriguing and it's backfired big time. The least they can do is deliver a hell of a match and I'm beginning to not even care who wins it or where it's placed on the card. Even if you forget Ronda's "this is all fake" BS, I can't stress enough how much this knee injury angle has derailed it.
I'll always enjoy Becky's run from SummerSlam through the Rumble because she was the easily the best thing they had going, but they've f***ed this up so badly I don't doubt it's going to start affecting her overnesss. She got another nice pop when she came out, but you could hear the crowd just go quiet when she had to sell the knee, which they're probably going to drag out until WrestleMania!
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Post by willywonka666 on Mar 10, 2019 22:17:36 GMT -5
Have it leak that Ronda made this a three way because she was asked to lose the belt, but she pulled some Shawn Michaels type crap so she doesnt look as bad when Becky wins, then she takes off awhile because she’s not getting her way
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2019 22:20:10 GMT -5
At this point just have all three of them shut up on Twitter, do some back-and-forth beatdowns for a few weeks to have good fuel for a recap video that makes this feud look way more exciting than it actually has been, and otherwise have zero actual plot between now and Mania because every attempt to add more story to all of this has made it worse.
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Post by Prince Petty on Mar 10, 2019 22:26:14 GMT -5
*deepest of sighs* I just can't get my hopes up anymore, tonight showed me these people don't know what they're doing. It's nothing malicious, they just thought adding all these different layers to the story would make it even more intriguing and it's backfired big time. The least they can do is deliver a hell of a match and I'm beginning to not even care who wins it or where it's placed on the card. Even if you forget Ronda's "this is all fake" BS, I can't stress enough how much this knee injury angle has derailed it. I'll always enjoy Becky's run from SummerSlam through the Rumble because she was the easily the best thing they had going, but they've f***ed this up so badly I don't doubt it's going to start affecting her overnesss. She got another nice pop when she came out, but you could hear the crowd just go quiet when she had to sell the knee, which they're probably going to drag out until WrestleMania! The injury is a heel gimmick, plain and simple. Always has been, because it's a cheap way of getting out of matches/confrontations and getting in cheap shots on people. Having a babyface nursing an injury, with the way the WWE books, means that she has to keep being an idiot and risking further injury by getting into fights and agreeing to matches. It's so dumb. Plus, as I said in the Fastlane thread, this storyline started because Becky wouldn't let a doctor look at her knee, to see if she was going to be healthy enough to compete. Now the McMahons are forcing her to wrestle with a clearly injured knee, just for the chance to be in the match that they were worried that her knee injury would keep her out of. I'm not saying babyfaces should miraculously recover from beatings (which they usually do, in the WWE), but the Royal Rumble was six weeks ago. She should either be recovered, or she should be off TV.
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Post by Gus Richlen: Ruffian on Mar 10, 2019 22:39:38 GMT -5
Hit the EJECT button on Ronda.
Charlotte vs. Becky again at WM is the best option at this point and I wouldn't have said this a couple of months ago but Ronda is absolutely toxic now, even without WWE's attempts to make the feud better backfiring.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2019 23:27:43 GMT -5
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Post by Brooklynpunk97 on Mar 10, 2019 23:45:01 GMT -5
I'm sure people won't agree with this but I feel like she is the only one that's actually trying to make this interesting. She's the only one that's actually keeping this feud going and she's the glue that's holding it together. Charlotte is okay heeling it up but Becky is doing everything that she can to make sure that this main event still stays a main event. I don't know what they're trying to do here. I don't understand why it's a triple threat still even though it's been explained to me and beaten into my head with a hammer. (and you all had really good points so I don't want you to think that I'm saying you don't) but man is Becky really the only interesting thing this feud has gone for it They need to drop the whole in injury angle. They need to stop trying to add different layers (Charlotte). from now until WrestleMania they just need to cut promos on each other and try and one-up each other in the ring. Watching Fastlane and hearing Becky get a small respectable pop broke my f****** heart. She's worked her ass off to get the loudest reactions and the best spot on the card and she's doing it all on her own in this feud. Charlotte's helping and Rhonda's doing everything I guess that she can but Becky is the one that's keeping this all going. Im just in complete shock by how awful theyve made this whole thing into. This feud has lost so much heat that I honestly dont think its going to ME anymore. Someone made a post about how its bigger than Ronda/Becky/Charlotte as a reason for keeping Charlotte in but what about Vince sabotaging his own f***ing company. Vince gets final say and hes just destroying everything. Maybe its not him directly...Ugh. Sorry yall, Im just so frustrated with this whole thing.
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