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Post by héad.casé on Mar 23, 2019 23:06:37 GMT -5
Alberto was everything they wanted - tall, handsome, solid in ring, great babyface fire in that short face run, and they were banking on him being their next Latino star after Rey was breaking down physically & Sin Cara 1 was a bust.
They really hurt him by taking everything interesting away from him - the cars, the pyro, Ricardo. I wouldn’t want to see Alberto back now though. He’s caused way too much shit & they don’t need him. Rey’s back and looking better than ever and then there’s Andrade too.
I hope he’s sincere and grown up a bit more now.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Mar 23, 2019 23:10:26 GMT -5
A Del Rio return?
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Post by Loser troll. Please ban me on Mar 23, 2019 23:57:43 GMT -5
Are you positive about that? I never said he was the greatest MMA fighter. I just said he was experienced enough and could potentially hold his own enough that Brock isn't gonna risk himself and say "sure, I'll kick his ass for funsies". Brock will pretty much do anything given enough cash and attention. I conceded that point if this were, however, a real suggestion
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Post by Dub H on Mar 24, 2019 0:01:17 GMT -5
Are you positive about that? I never said he was the greatest MMA fighter. I just said he was experienced enough and could potentially hold his own enough that Brock isn't gonna risk himself and say "sure, I'll kick his ass for funsies". I doubt Lesnar would fight anyone without a good payment. But i doubt he sees difference between Del Rio and Zack Ryder.Del Rio would never really have a chance.
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Post by nisidhe on Mar 24, 2019 0:13:39 GMT -5
Its still something though. I mean what does Reigns have despite the never-ending mega push? Nice Hair? He can't work. Can't cut a great promo. Void of ANY charisma and connectibilty with the audience. Has never drew viewers as a singles wrestlers . . Yet ADR can't work there? I don't get it.. Now, I strongly suspect that you're trolling here. Reigns definitely connects with audiences. That Raw after Wrestlemania 33 when he beat the Undertaker? He had that crowd eating out of his hand. They were ready to kill him that night. That was delicious. Roman's got the Jason Momoa thing going for him; does all kinds of charity stuff; is a leader in the locker room. He has a natural charisma that doesn't necessarily require the rhetorical gift of Churchill to get across. He's not a workrate freak, but he is a decent hand in the ring and hasn't injured anyone during a match. ADR is on the level of Enzo Amore among his peers and is especially not welcome among Paige's friends. He was never a draw; certainly as a heel he was not someone for whose comeuppance fans paid to see. He's got a history of no-showing for other promotions and not engaging well with fans. He's not an asset worth bringing back to WWE and any role he could fill has been filled by others since his departure.
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Post by benstudd on Mar 24, 2019 0:46:52 GMT -5
Its still something though. I mean what does Reigns have despite the never-ending mega push? Nice Hair? He can't work. Can't cut a great promo. Void of ANY charisma and connectibilty with the audience. Has never drew viewers as a singles wrestlers . . Yet ADR can't work there? I don't get it.. Now, I strongly suspect that you're trolling here. Reigns definitely connects with audiences. That Raw after Wrestlemania 33 when he beat the Undertaker? He had that crowd eating out of his hand. They were ready to kill him that night. That was delicious. Roman's got the Jason Momoa thing going for him; does all kinds of charity stuff; is a leader in the locker room. He has a natural charisma that doesn't necessarily require the rhetorical gift of Churchill to get across. He's not a workrate freak, but he is a decent hand in the ring and hasn't injured anyone during a match. ADR is on the level of Enzo Amore among his peers and is especially not welcome among Paige's friends. He was never a draw; certainly as a heel he was not someone for whose comeuppance fans paid to see. He's got a history of no-showing for other promotions and not engaging well with fans. He's not an asset worth bringing back to WWE and any role he could fill has been filled by others since his departure. I don't think RR being a nice guy means he connects with an audience. I don't think him being booed after Mania meant he connected with an audience. (lol) He may be more an assett to the WWE compared to ADR cause of what he does outside of wrestling but that is it.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Mar 24, 2019 0:50:32 GMT -5
Now, I strongly suspect that you're trolling here. Reigns definitely connects with audiences. That Raw after Wrestlemania 33 when he beat the Undertaker? He had that crowd eating out of his hand. They were ready to kill him that night. That was delicious. Roman's got the Jason Momoa thing going for him; does all kinds of charity stuff; is a leader in the locker room. He has a natural charisma that doesn't necessarily require the rhetorical gift of Churchill to get across. He's not a workrate freak, but he is a decent hand in the ring and hasn't injured anyone during a match. ADR is on the level of Enzo Amore among his peers and is especially not welcome among Paige's friends. He was never a draw; certainly as a heel he was not someone for whose comeuppance fans paid to see. He's got a history of no-showing for other promotions and not engaging well with fans. He's not an asset worth bringing back to WWE and any role he could fill has been filled by others since his departure. I don't think RR being a nice guy means he connects with an audience. I don't think him being booed after Mania meant he connected with an audience. (lol) He may be more an assett to the WWE compared to ADR cause of what he does outside of wrestling but that is it. He literally said I got them eating out the palm of my hand
Also fans are connected to Roman, if they weren't then, they are now
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Post by CubsFan71 on Mar 24, 2019 1:17:00 GMT -5
I read the thread title aloud and my tv jumped off the stand, boxed itself back up, and took itself back to Wal-Mart.
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Mar 24, 2019 1:27:55 GMT -5
Alberto was everything they wanted - tall, handsome, solid in ring, great babyface fire in that short face run, and they were banking on him being their next Latino star after Rey was breaking down physically & Sin Cara 1 was a bust. They really hurt him by taking everything interesting away from him - the cars, the pyro, Ricardo. I wouldn’t want to see Alberto back now though. He’s caused way too much shit & they don’t need him. Rey’s back and looking better than ever and then there’s Andrade too. I hope he’s sincere and grown up a bit more now. Nope. Even when a company catered to everything he wanted he f***ed them on a whim because he’d rather drink than show up for a big show. His problems are down to him, period.
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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on Mar 24, 2019 1:29:04 GMT -5
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Post by MAD TITAN on Mar 24, 2019 1:31:03 GMT -5
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Mar 24, 2019 1:38:37 GMT -5
Never understood the hate for ADR truthfully. Tremendous in ring talent I always thought. It didn't translate as well to the American Audience but if theres a place for CRAPPY wrestlers in the WWE, why not ADR exactly? Hes better than most guys in the WWE right now. ADR and Ricardo is a fine addition. No room for ADR but you'll sit through boring ass Reigns (Who has a FRACTION of the in-ring talent ADR has) , and Countless boring Women wrestlers on RAW every week that are NOT drawing? Righhttt Yea he didn't get mega-over. But... Ummm... Its not like anyone else is either currently. As stated, you got room for most these current bums on the roster, theres room for ADR somewhere there to finish out his career. And at least ADR/Ricardo brought a little entertainment value and a little charisma . Guys like Reigns and others are VOID of ANY charisma This right here stands to debunk your own argument. WWE in 2019 is a testament to how empty a statement "(X things I don't like) don't draw, they should bring in (person I like) who will totally draw instead" truly is. Alberto didn't draw shit. You're taking your own beliefs about Reigns and "countless boring women wrestlers" and applying them as objective truths that people can't disagree with, and because you see something in one guy and nothing in another, therefore that is the reality and that stands on its own as a statement other people have to agree with. It's kind of weird.
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Post by Clutchhausen on Mar 24, 2019 2:46:07 GMT -5
One of the most boring wrestlers to ever exist next to Miz and Corbin.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Mar 24, 2019 4:38:17 GMT -5
Remember when TNA booked him in the main event of their Wrestlemania weekend show, and he decided to get shitfaced and just not show up? That was pretty funny. And in a massive case of addition by subtraction it turned into an amazing match. It was pretty funny seeing him try to claim any excuse for why he wasn't there when he'd walked through someone's livestream from wrestlecon earlier in the day
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Post by bearned on Mar 24, 2019 5:14:54 GMT -5
I think Del Rio is a rare case of a guy that has well and truly burned his bridges with WWE.
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Post by David-Arquette was in WCW 2000 on Mar 24, 2019 6:01:09 GMT -5
Ain't nothing sincere about this. He wants (needs) the money and knows what he needs to say to 'make peace'. The guy is a shit.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Mar 24, 2019 7:42:32 GMT -5
One can easily dislike Reigns for a variety of reasons&that be fine due to subjective taste. To say the guy has no charisma though is objectively false. You can say "I don't like this guy" and that being enough without going "I don't like this guy&I'm goin to defend that point by saying something demonstrably false."
Ya don't need to defend a subjective opinion anyway, but it doesn't help your case to say things that are so visibly untrue they're silly.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Mar 24, 2019 7:44:28 GMT -5
Is he sorry about the part where he got a girl half his age addicted to cocaine? Eh, unless he had her tied up and was smashing bricks of it into her face or something she's a grown woman who made her own choices there.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Mar 24, 2019 8:43:22 GMT -5
Remember when TNA booked him in the main event of their Wrestlemania weekend show, and he decided to get shitfaced and just not show up? That was pretty funny. And in a massive case of addition by subtraction it turned into an amazing match. It was pretty funny seeing him try to claim any excuse for why he wasn't there when he'd walked through someone's livestream from wrestlecon earlier in the day Alberto being drunk in some rando live stream with I think like Carlito or someone like super soon before the show was the most hilarious reveal for him being just kind of shitty all over again, especially when it was discovered and reported on fresh off the heels of his impassioned family emergency excuse.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Mar 24, 2019 8:43:39 GMT -5
if his apology is genuine I think that's a good thing. that said, it doesn't mean WWE needs to bring him back. they already had a bloated roster full of better guys they don't know what to do with.
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