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Post by nickcave on Mar 24, 2019 1:53:55 GMT -5
Summer of Punk 2011. Just depressing. It could have been so great. Have him gone for the entire summer. Show up at various indies, and air the footage, almost like the nWo paid advertisements. Let them do the interim title all summer and have him come back at Summerslam or the night after. Why they couldn’t have just went with Mysterio-Cena at Summerslam I’ll never know. That was a dream match that they threw away on Raw. It made the whole tournament pointless and Cena look like a dick for demanding a match with Mysterio immediately after he won it. If anything people don’t talk enough about how that title win and loss killed off Mysterio as a threat making him a victim of the whole thing as well.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Mar 24, 2019 2:28:54 GMT -5
I just remember going completely numb after that Bayley vs. Alexa Bliss Kendo Stick on a Pole match.
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Post by Ishmeal Loves BBL Bayley on Mar 24, 2019 7:19:08 GMT -5
It could have been so great. Have him gone for the entire summer. Show up at various indies, and air the footage, almost like the nWo paid advertisements. Let them do the interim title all summer and have him come back at Summerslam or the night after. Why they couldn’t have just went with Mysterio-Cena at Summerslam I’ll never know. That was a dream match that they threw away on Raw. It made the whole tournament pointless and Cena look like a dick for demanding a match with Mysterio immediately after he won it. If anything people don’t talk enough about how that title win and loss killed off Mysterio as a threat making him a victim of the whole thing as well. That was my initial thought. Still do the Raw where Rey won the title, then do Rey vs. Cena at Summerslam, and have Punk return to spoil the moment.
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Post by chrom on Mar 24, 2019 8:14:38 GMT -5
I just remember going completely numb after that Bayley vs. Alexa Bliss Kendo Stick on a Pole match. That was the kiss of death for Bayley
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Post by tms on Mar 24, 2019 8:19:18 GMT -5
Owen Hart's babyface run post screw job. Feuds with Shawn, needs the win to finally establish himself as a serious threat, loses via screwy finish. Suddenly drops down to a feud with Hunter, needs the win at WM14 to stay relevant, nope, another loss via screwy finish. Terrible but not surprising in hindsight given the egos and pettiness of the guys he feuded with.
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Post by papagiorgio on Mar 24, 2019 9:06:44 GMT -5
Hogan vs. Flair not happening at Wrestlemania 8 and being replaced by Hogan vs. Sid and Flair vs. Savage, although Flair vs. Savage was a good match.
Beefcake vs. Honky Tonk Man at Summerslam not happening and Beefcake being replace by Ultimate Warrior. Beefcake was one of my favorite wrestlers at the time and I didn't really care for Ultimate Warrior.
Zack Ryder being one of the most over wrestlers in WWE, but getting horrible booking after winning the US title. I loved his youtube stuff at the time. Swagger beat him for a short reign and being used as a pawn with Cena-Kane and Eve-Cena made him look very weak. The guy could have been a mid-level talent for years to come instead of a glorified jobber.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2019 10:08:27 GMT -5
Everything after Bray Wyatt winning the WWE Title and successfully defending it on SmackDown.
At Elimination Chamber 2017 I'd thought they'd finally, finally pulled the trigger on Bray as a main eventer, and despite Orton lurking in the background I figured they wouldn't have had Bray go over both Styles and Cena the following SmackDown if they weren't gonna' go all the way with him. Had I known how things were gonna' turn out I never would've gotten my hopes up (which in all honesty can be the tagline of WWE as a whole for the past 15 years).
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Post by WoodStoner1 on Mar 24, 2019 10:27:25 GMT -5
It has to be Ryder for me. Dude worked his ass off to make a name for himself and got over, and then they killed everything he did. After that I have never been surprised when they f***ed up somebody else's push. Shocked he hasn't asked for a release yet.
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Post by WoodStoner1 on Mar 24, 2019 10:28:21 GMT -5
Summer of Punk 2011. Just depressing. Well Punk did OK for himself...if you still care about that sort of thing. (his pretentiousness killed THAT for me) Here's one out of the past: Matt Hardy, Version One. Entertaining gimmick, good heel...but Joe Laurinatis disagreed, apparently. And thought ALBERT for the 25,000th time should be given a chance in that position.
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Post by CeilingFan on Mar 24, 2019 10:29:23 GMT -5
They really dropped the ball with Tye Dillinger.
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Post by WoodStoner1 on Mar 24, 2019 10:30:21 GMT -5
Owen Hart's babyface run post screw job. Feuds with Shawn, needs the win to finally establish himself as a serious threat, loses via screwy finish. Suddenly drops down to a feud with Hunter, needs the win at WM14 to stay relevant, nope, another loss via screwy finish. Terrible but not surprising in hindsight given the egos and pettiness of the guys he feuded with. And that's just the tip of the iceberg. Cause said egotistical main eventers not wanting to work with him (and Austin too on top of that) led to midcard push and gimmick, one after the other, which led to them eventually rebooting you know what, and...well, nuff said. I know fingers were pointed at the writing inadvertently causing Owen's death, but when you look back at it...those people aren't wrong.
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Post by WoodStoner1 on Mar 24, 2019 10:31:57 GMT -5
Braun: Was major over this time last year and most of the summer. What do they do? Turn the guy heel and face at random. Have Braun destroy him in a match. Killed him dead. Why? Got forbid we change plans. No we need to stick with Roman at all cost even though fans where booing him out of the building. I'd hope what happened after showed them it doesn't pay to stick with a plan. (somewhere in a corner, Meltzer (mumbling) : "Unless Roman's sickness WAS part of the plan...") (Don't look at me, there's people who think like this of course)
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Post by Loser troll. Please ban me on Mar 24, 2019 10:37:45 GMT -5
Anyone called up from NXT
One that bothered me the most: Bray Wyatt. I loved his preaching double talk and cryptic shtick and honestly thought he could have been a great candidate to replace Taker as the default supernatural character. During his feud with Cena he was white hot but like all before him was fed to Cena and then jobbed out in every feud after.
Most Recent: Samoa Joe: He went from absolute badass to a total chump.
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Post by Woo on Mar 24, 2019 10:42:56 GMT -5
Why they couldn’t have just went with Mysterio-Cena at Summerslam I’ll never know. That was a dream match that they threw away on Raw. It made the whole tournament pointless and Cena look like a dick for demanding a match with Mysterio immediately after he won it. If anything people don’t talk enough about how that title win and loss killed off Mysterio as a threat making him a victim of the whole thing as well. That was my initial thought. Still do the Raw where Rey won the title, then do Rey vs. Cena at Summerslam, and have Punk return to spoil the moment. People actually forget that the Raw after MITB was very good. Vince getting fired and replaced by HHH seemed like a huge moment and changing if the guard. Doing the title tournament and having Rey win was awesome and set up the dream match with Cena at Summerslam. Punk appeared at an indie show and comic con to spar with HHH which was so exciting. It got off to a great start.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2019 10:46:57 GMT -5
Dean Ambrose from the Shield break up and onward. He'd have a cool promo here and there but I hated how comedy-heavy his character has been.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Mar 24, 2019 10:50:46 GMT -5
Some things that bugged me to the point of eventually walking away were huge and some were small. It was a slow build because I had been watching WWE (and the many companies they killed) for over25 years, but I eventually cut the cord and just occasionally check in on this section of the forum to get an idea where things are at now (Becky almost interests me enough to start watching again, but it sounds like they are screwing that up too).
Small things:
Killing Matt Hardy's post-Edge feud momentum by punishing him for ducking out on an Undertaker chokeslam because it was stupid for his character, a face on Smackdown, to defend Randy Orton, the top asshole heel on Smackdown, from the Undertaker, another face on Smackdown. It was really dumb to tell him to do it and he prevented the angle from looking stupid at the PPV.
The inability to let some of the top guys occasionally take clear losses to guys who need some added momentum. Seriously, if some struggling midcard act gets a surprise win on a top of the card guy all on his own (without the top guy's rival getting involved), would that really kill the push of the top guy to only win 19 out of 20 matches?
Big things:
The Summer of Punk II. Damn, that could have been great. I know they tried to make up for that mistake with his long reign later on (which was helped by him turning heel in the middle of it), but it was a real wasted moment.
Mismanagement of Nexus: This could have been the angle to establish a new set of superstars. Looking at the WWE's roster page, less than half of that group are still employed by the company and only Daniel Bryan, who almost immediately left the group, appears to do anything of note.
HHH rules them all: How many careers were derailed to feed the Legend of Sleepy HHHollow? I don't even want to relive them all at this moment. The fact that it continued up to the day I stopped watching in 2014 says A LOT about the company.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Mar 24, 2019 10:56:59 GMT -5
That was my initial thought. Still do the Raw where Rey won the title, then do Rey vs. Cena at Summerslam, and have Punk return to spoil the moment. People actually forget that the Raw after MITB was very good. Vince getting fired and replaced by HHH seemed like a huge moment and changing if the guard. Doing the title tournament and having Rey win was awesome and set up the dream match with Cena at Summerslam. Punk appeared at an indie show and comic con to spar with HHH which was so exciting. It got off to a great start. I HATED Punk until the Pipebomb. Did not see one redeeming quality in him. Noticed him on the pipebomb and then he and Cena had a match, if it had been in the Tokyo Dome, would be six stars....but that crowd made it six anyway. I was stoked for this angle after years of being down on the product. Then, what happened happened and it killed my enthusiasm dead. Haven’t been excited for anything since. It all just happens and I feel nothing.
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Post by lemonyellowson on Mar 24, 2019 11:28:19 GMT -5
Punk hands down. Man they pissed away a lot of money on that shit
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Post by BoomPeriod on Mar 24, 2019 11:33:24 GMT -5
Since the invasion? Just about everyone in the last few years with the exception of AJ Styles.
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Post by schma on Mar 24, 2019 11:38:04 GMT -5
Biggest ones for me that stand out in the past couple years are Rusev, Harper and Braun. Harper may seem the odd one out here but both of his incredibly short solo runs showed that there was something to this guy and that people would get invested in him. Rusev and Braun have been at times some of the most over people on the roster.
Also, the build to the Raw Women's match at WM. I was hyped for it. Now I just kinda want it to be over already.
There are others but those are probably the most recent ones.
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