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Post by Cyno on Dec 11, 2019 16:36:00 GMT -5
Every majority owner in MLB is at least a billionaire and teams make hundreds of millions of dollars per year via not just their own product, but also revenue sharing from the bigger markets. They can all afford to spend a lot more money even if it isn't on the same level as the Yankees, Dodgers, or Red Sox. Or you could be a very smart organization like the Rays and get the most bang for your buck. They're just cheap (see: the Royals, Mets, Marlins, or Twins) or incompetent (see: the Angels, Giants, or Mets again).
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 11, 2019 16:42:33 GMT -5
Every majority owner in MLB is at least a billionaire and teams make hundreds of millions of dollars per year via not just their own product, but also revenue sharing from the bigger markets. They can all afford to spend a lot more money even if it isn't on the same level as the Yankees, Dodgers, or Red Sox. Or you could be a very smart organization like the Rays and get the most bang for your buck. They're just cheap (see: the Royals, Mets, Marlins, or Twins) or incompetent (see: the Angels, Giants, or Mets again). If the NBA was like MLB, the OKC Thunder would have never spent any money and lost Westbrook and Durant years before they actually left because they refused to pay them
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Post by Mecca on Dec 11, 2019 16:48:15 GMT -5
I'm fine with it. Yankees got the guy they wanted and paid for it. I'm so tired of teams and fans crying foul when the Yankees, Red Sox, etc. pay out the wazoo for players. All the owners have the ability to do it. Quit whining, billionaires who pay millionaires. I'm not saying "shed a tear for the richer teams", but I do feel the need to point out that even they have to spend wisely, even if they have more money to spend in free agency. It still has to be the right players to sign, and even the richer teams have to pray every night that their FA signings actually pan out and play well in those FA contracts. Or else they're not winning championships, which is the only reason they add so many zero's to the check. But yes, smaller market teams still have it harder. Their method of putting a winning team out there is basically: Draft very well, build up their minor leaguers, hope and pray their fresh faces eventually grow into quality major leaguers that play well enough together to win even one World Series, before they lose their best players to richer teams in free agency. Rich teams still need their farm system, it's just easier for them to make up deficiencies in their home grown talent. It's easier for them to plug holes with the checkbook, but the checkbook can't buy a whole championship team neither. And yes, losing home grown talent to the checkbook happens to big teams too: Mookie Betts being a Red Sox lifer is about a 50/50 percents chance right now. The only reason the Red Sox will lose Mookie Betts is because they are dumb. The Red Sox probably turn some insane profit like 450 million dollars a year, yet they are gonna act like they can't afford their best player, it's ludicrous.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 11, 2019 18:07:21 GMT -5
I'm not saying "shed a tear for the richer teams", but I do feel the need to point out that even they have to spend wisely, even if they have more money to spend in free agency. It still has to be the right players to sign, and even the richer teams have to pray every night that their FA signings actually pan out and play well in those FA contracts. Or else they're not winning championships, which is the only reason they add so many zero's to the check. But yes, smaller market teams still have it harder. Their method of putting a winning team out there is basically: Draft very well, build up their minor leaguers, hope and pray their fresh faces eventually grow into quality major leaguers that play well enough together to win even one World Series, before they lose their best players to richer teams in free agency. Rich teams still need their farm system, it's just easier for them to make up deficiencies in their home grown talent. It's easier for them to plug holes with the checkbook, but the checkbook can't buy a whole championship team neither. And yes, losing home grown talent to the checkbook happens to big teams too: Mookie Betts being a Red Sox lifer is about a 50/50 percents chance right now. The only reason the Red Sox will lose Mookie Betts is because they are dumb. The Red Sox probably turn some insane profit like 450 million dollars a year, yet they are gonna act like they can't afford their best player, it's ludicrous. Red Sox have been touching the luxury tax threshold and Mookie is going to cost like $250. Red Sox f***ed up their purse and are forced to making moves because they did bad with their money
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 18:16:10 GMT -5
Hawk Harrelson got the Ford Frick award lol.
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Post by Cyno on Dec 11, 2019 18:28:41 GMT -5
The only reason the Red Sox will lose Mookie Betts is because they are dumb. The Red Sox probably turn some insane profit like 450 million dollars a year, yet they are gonna act like they can't afford their best player, it's ludicrous. Red Sox have been touching the luxury tax threshold and Mookie is going to cost like $250. Red Sox f***ed up their purse and are forced to making moves because they did bad with their money It's probably why the Red Sox fired Dombrowski.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 11, 2019 18:35:50 GMT -5
Red Sox have been touching the luxury tax threshold and Mookie is going to cost like $250. Red Sox f***ed up their purse and are forced to making moves because they did bad with their money It's probably why the Red Sox fired Dombrowski. It is the main reason why Dombrowski is gone. He messed them up two fold with them having no real prospects to lean on and spending a shit ton of money. It got them the ring yes but when he came in Boston had the best prospect system and now you're facing the path of a contract that you probably shouldn't have given Sale, Price can't stay healthy and they can't afford JD Martinez The best Boston could hope for is if they get a trade where they can get rid of a shit ton of salary like they did with the Dodgers years ago. I keep saying Minnesota needs to get Mookie. Trade Buxton and another prospect and take on that Price contract (reduced of course) and Mookie. Teams like them should not be afraid to go for it
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 11, 2019 18:36:16 GMT -5
Hawk Harrelson got the Ford Frick award lol. Hawk Harrelson was garbage, f***ing Joey Styles level of commentary
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Post by Cyno on Dec 11, 2019 20:00:52 GMT -5
Hawk Harrelson had some unintentionally great gems. Like this one.
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Post by Duke Cameron on Dec 11, 2019 22:03:49 GMT -5
Looks like Rendon is close to signing with the Angels.
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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on Dec 11, 2019 22:04:37 GMT -5
It's probably why the Red Sox fired Dombrowski. It is the main reason why Dombrowski is gone. He messed them up two fold with them having no real prospects to lean on and spending a shit ton of money. It got them the ring yes but when he came in Boston had the best prospect system and now you're facing the path of a contract that you probably shouldn't have given Sale, Price can't stay healthy and they can't afford JD Martinez The best Boston could hope for is if they get a trade where they can get rid of a shit ton of salary like they did with the Dodgers years ago. I keep saying Minnesota needs to get Mookie. Trade Buxton and another prospect and take on that Price contract (reduced of course) and Mookie. Teams like them should not be afraid to go for it
Dombrowski did exactly what they hired him to do. Win now
They knew who he was when they hired him, its been his M.O. his entire front office career. He's gone because he's not a rebuild guy. Sox might be stuck with a couple of lean years until they can get out from
Devers and Boegarts might both be top 10 players in the American League now.
As much as I'd love a top third of a lineup Betts, Boegarts, Devers for the next decade. I just don't see it happening.
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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on Dec 11, 2019 22:09:55 GMT -5
Giants now in talks with MadBum after that LA rumor got floated last night.
I think they realized losing MadBum would make the fans angry... losing MadBum to the Dodgers would cost them money.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 11, 2019 22:14:03 GMT -5
It is the main reason why Dombrowski is gone. He messed them up two fold with them having no real prospects to lean on and spending a shit ton of money. It got them the ring yes but when he came in Boston had the best prospect system and now you're facing the path of a contract that you probably shouldn't have given Sale, Price can't stay healthy and they can't afford JD Martinez The best Boston could hope for is if they get a trade where they can get rid of a shit ton of salary like they did with the Dodgers years ago. I keep saying Minnesota needs to get Mookie. Trade Buxton and another prospect and take on that Price contract (reduced of course) and Mookie. Teams like them should not be afraid to go for it
Dombrowski did exactly what they hired him to do. Win now
They knew who he was when they hired him, its been his M.O. his entire front office career. He's gone because he's not a rebuild guy. Sox might be stuck with a couple of lean years until they can get out from
Devers and Boegarts might both be top 10 players in the American League now.
As much as I'd love a top third of a lineup Betts, Boegarts, Devers for the next decade. I just don't see it happening.
Oh yeah don't get me wrong they knew what they were getting into and in his defense he delivered on the promise of a championship Sox knew what they were getting into and he gave them what they wanted but obviously it came at a price They just gave Boegarts a new deal last year right? He is good for the forseeable future but Betts is def gone.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 11, 2019 22:15:34 GMT -5
Giants now in talks with MadBum after that LA rumor got floated last night. I think they realized losing MadBum would make the fans angry... losing MadBum to the Dodgers would cost them money. At the very least with the Dodgers involved you can't just let him walk away without offering him a deal If he says no that is one thing but even with Kershaw and MadBum declining, that is still a dream combo from 3 years ago
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Post by Duke Cameron on Dec 11, 2019 22:44:07 GMT -5
Rendon to Angels. 7 years, $245 million.
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Post by arrogantmodel on Dec 11, 2019 22:46:12 GMT -5
These stats are batshit:
Gerrit Cole is only making $1 million less than what the Angels paid for the land for their stadium and the surrounding 133 acres. They paid $325 million.
Gerrit is making more than the Pirates have paid all of their free agents over the last 25 years.
I used to work for the Pirates, and Cole was leaving one night while I was in the hallway. I am amazed I was standing next to a future mega millionaire. He's also shorter than they say. I'm 5'10, and he's listed at 6'3, I think. There's no way. 😊
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Dec 11, 2019 22:48:25 GMT -5
Rendon to Angels. 7 years, $245 million. Interesting to see Rendon accept the same deal as Strasburg and not more. As far as the Angels go, good addition to the bats, but they really need pitching or they are going to end up in the same spot the Phillies were last year.
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Post by sfvega on Dec 11, 2019 23:03:50 GMT -5
Giants now in talks with MadBum after that LA rumor got floated last night. I think they realized losing MadBum would make the fans angry... losing MadBum to the Dodgers would cost them money. Only until he's bad. It'll sting for a bit and then it'll be like "You're paying THAT guy? Good."
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 11, 2019 23:16:16 GMT -5
Rendon to Angels. 7 years, $245 million. A bit of an overpay imo but they got 3 dangerous bats in Ohtani, Trout and Rendon now. They need pitching
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Dec 12, 2019 0:17:35 GMT -5
I'll miss Anthony Rendon. I'm sadder at this than I ever was for Bryce. Rendon has been incredible and only behind Arenado as the best third baseman in the game to me. I'm not mad at him. Guy helped me see my first championship and I hope he does well for the rest of his career.
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