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Post by TGM on Mar 28, 2019 14:34:37 GMT -5
What were the backstage reasons to drop this title? Seems quite a stupid idea. Although seeing how meaningless its been since it came back, should it have remained inactive?
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Mar 28, 2019 14:36:43 GMT -5
Because Vince is the dumb and someone talked him into believing that would make the World Title mean more.
I wonder whhho.
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Post by JCBaggee on Mar 28, 2019 14:40:00 GMT -5
Because Vince is the dumb and someone talked him into believing that would make the World Title mean more. I wonder whhho. Damn you, Jim Neidhart!
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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on Mar 28, 2019 14:42:46 GMT -5
Because the product was hot and they didn’t need the easy booking out of “they’re fighting because it’s a title “
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Post by romanstylesiii on Mar 28, 2019 14:44:07 GMT -5
Triple H would have been recognized as the last IC champ. Which is weird, because when they were deactivating all the titles, all the people who won the unification matches (European and Hardcore) were not recognized as last champion of those belts... Except for HHH
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Post by cjh on Mar 28, 2019 15:04:35 GMT -5
Triple H would have been recognized as the last IC champ. Which is weird, because when they were deactivating all the titles, all the people who won the unification matches (European and Hardcore) were not recognized as last champion of those belts... Except for HHH They couldn't seem to make up their minds about that. JR said at Survivor Series 2002 that Kane was the last IC Champion.
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Post by David-Arquette was in WCW 2000 on Mar 28, 2019 16:42:13 GMT -5
Triple H would have been recognized as the last IC champ. Which is weird, because when they were deactivating all the titles, all the people who won the unification matches (European and Hardcore) were not recognized as last champion of those belts... Except for HHH I love how, even with all those belts, he's still got two MITB briefcases yet to cash in.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Mar 28, 2019 16:59:52 GMT -5
What were the backstage reasons to drop this title? Seems quite a stupid idea. Although seeing how meaningless its been since it came back, should it have remained inactive? Because the plan was run with a main title on each brand, and no secondary title. Originally, they were going to use the IC belt as the main Raw belt, but quickly decided to introduce the WHC instead and retire the IC About 8 months later, they realised they needed mid card belts to do single brand PPV’s and reactivated the US and IC belts
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Post by Feyrhausen on Mar 28, 2019 18:02:40 GMT -5
What were the backstage reasons to drop this title? Seems quite a stupid idea. Although seeing how meaningless its been since it came back, should it have remained inactive? Because the plan was run with a main title on each brand, and no secondary title. Originally, they were going to use the IC belt as the main Raw belt, but quickly decided to introduce the WHC instead and retire the IC About 8 months later, they realised they needed mid card belts to do single brand PPV’s and reactivated the US and IC belts When RVD was going to be the first Raw champion the IC title was fine for his belt. But when plans changed (was going to be face HHH feuding with nWo) and HHH was turned heel suddenly the IC title wasnt enough.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Mar 28, 2019 18:11:31 GMT -5
Whenever you wonder why something stupid happened, just look how close the Kliq is to it and you’ll see.
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Post by romanstylesiii on Mar 28, 2019 18:37:21 GMT -5
Triple H would have been recognized as the last IC champ. Which is weird, because when they were deactivating all the titles, all the people who won the unification matches (European and Hardcore) were not recognized as last champion of those belts... Except for HHH They couldn't seem to make up their minds about that. JR said at Survivor Series 2002 that Kane was the last IC Champion. He never even touched the title, the website (still) claims he won the IC title that day though and lists him as a champ.
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Post by TheMediocreWarrior on Mar 28, 2019 23:53:37 GMT -5
In my opinion, once a belt reaches a certain age, it should never be retired. Being able to trace a championship's lineage so far back makes it seem prestigious even in times when the booking isn't so great.
The title retirement that has really baffled me is the World Tag Titles being retired and the 2002 Tag Title lineage being kept. Why would you keep that one when you can't mention 1/2 of the first team that held them?
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Post by facethatrunstheplace on Mar 29, 2019 0:04:18 GMT -5
They couldn't seem to make up their minds about that. JR said at Survivor Series 2002 that Kane was the last IC Champion. He never even touched the title, the website (still) claims he won the IC title that day though and lists him as a champ. Actually Kane is a two time intercontinental champion.
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Post by JCBaggee on Mar 29, 2019 3:09:02 GMT -5
Triple H would have been recognized as the last IC champ. Which is weird, because when they were deactivating all the titles, all the people who won the unification matches (European and Hardcore) were not recognized as last champion of those belts... Except for HHH I love how, even with all those belts, he's still got two MITB briefcases yet to cash in. He cashes them in on himself. Because they're older contracts, they still have the rematch clause built in. Triple H will perpetually wrestle himself for eternity for his own belts, with other contenders being told they must wait for Triple H's feud with Triple H to conclude. Look, it's not easy, wrestling yourself for every title the company has, but if someone has to wrestle Triple H for the titles, then Triple H is glad it could be him.
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Post by David-Arquette was in WCW 2000 on Mar 29, 2019 10:16:45 GMT -5
I love how, even with all those belts, he's still got two MITB briefcases yet to cash in. He cashes them in on himself. Because they're older contracts, they still have the rematch clause built in. Triple H will perpetually wrestle himself for eternity for his own belts, with other contenders being told they must wait for Triple H's feud with Triple H to conclude. Look, it's not easy, wrestling yourself for every title the company has, but if someone has to wrestle Triple H for the titles, then Triple H is glad it could be him. For this business!
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Mar 29, 2019 10:25:52 GMT -5
Triple H.
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Post by thirteen3 on Mar 29, 2019 10:42:57 GMT -5
To boost the importance of the new WHC, which at the time didn't share a lineage with the WCW title.
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Mar 29, 2019 10:45:44 GMT -5
In my opinion, once a belt reaches a certain age, it should never be retired. Being able to trace a championship's lineage so far back makes it seem prestigious even in times when the booking isn't so great. The title retirement that has really baffled me is the World Tag Titles being retired and the 2002 Tag Title lineage being kept. Why would you keep that one when you can't mention 1/2 of the first team that held them? Who the hell knows with Vince. He probably feels like it makes the title feel old and not that its prestigious. Isn't that the reasoning for not mentioning the Wrestlemania numbers anymore? Not like the Super Bowl does it and is the most watched event in the US.
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Post by Cry Me a Wiggle on Mar 29, 2019 12:38:26 GMT -5
It bothers me so much that there's a seven month gap in its lineage, I almost wish they would retroactively say that anyone who held the World Heavyweight Championship during that time was also the IC champion. Granted, that's just Triple H, Shawn Michaels, and then Triple H again, but still.
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Post by msc on Mar 29, 2019 13:25:23 GMT -5
Idiocy.
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