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Post by Perd on Mar 29, 2019 13:01:30 GMT -5
#1 seller of merch and knee injuries.
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Post by dbrussel on Mar 29, 2019 13:09:19 GMT -5
Meltzer says Roman is still #1
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2019 14:15:58 GMT -5
Yep. They build shows around Becky and her antics every week much like they did Steve Austin prior to WrestleMania 14. If Becky wins Sunday, expect her to become the new top star. Do they really though? I’m sure that the office is behind Becky, but this a bit of a reach for me. I mean last week on Raw she had a promo and won a beat the clock challenge in the first segment and that was pretty well it. On SDL she had a promo that Charlotte interrupted who then won the SDL title, and then Becky was seen in the back cheering for Kofi. Austin had the entire show built around him to the point where he’d be seen multiple times and it would culminate in the last segment most weeks. Yeah, I don't doubt they love her right now but Becky's been showing up only once or twice on TV (a lot of the time just once) for a while now. Not really what I'd call building the show around her. Even though the women are main eventing WM (and it's well deserved), Kofi/Bryan is their top program right now and has been since EC.
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Post by RadcapRadsley on Mar 29, 2019 15:36:40 GMT -5
This is huge if true considering she doesn't have 87 t-shirts and accessories like other name's.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2019 16:16:20 GMT -5
This is huge if true considering she doesn't have 87 t-shirts and accessories like other name's. Well they do keep making new stuff for her, probably because people keep buying it. I still need to get a shirt!
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Post by Big DSR Energy on Mar 29, 2019 16:28:20 GMT -5
I ordered a shirt a couple months ago.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2019 16:50:13 GMT -5
Good for her. The problem is that merch isn't enough to dictate booking. We've seen it with Ambrose, New Day, we've seen it with a lot of stars. The fact that Becky's entire position is dictated by Ronda's contract regardless of how much merch she says is troubling.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2019 16:54:51 GMT -5
Good for her. The problem is that merch isn't enough to dictate booking. We've seen it with Ambrose, New Day, we've seen it with a lot of stars. The fact that Becky's entire position is dictated by Ronda's contract regardless of how much merch she says is troubling. Ronda wasn't wrong when she said she was the reason Becky's main eventing WM, but it is lame. Becky and Charlotte are good enough to main event WM any year, with or without Ronda.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Mar 29, 2019 17:00:17 GMT -5
Good for her. The problem is that merch isn't enough to dictate booking. We've seen it with Ambrose, New Day, we've seen it with a lot of stars. The fact that Becky's entire position is dictated by Ronda's contract regardless of how much merch she says is troubling. It's the most WWE thing to decide "Becky's going to be our main woman but also we're stil lnot really behind the women without Ronda". Like how they positioned New Day as focal points of the tag division but never even experimented with the idea of making the tag team division matter more or running with those dudes as stars. Becky gets to be top dog of a division that doesn't have the office backing to amount to much once Ronda walks.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2019 17:01:15 GMT -5
This is really cool news but also makes the idea that they're not sure about doing another Evolution when their primary merch mover is a woman even more f***ing baffling. Maybe they are trying to avoid over-saturation of the women's division?
We're in a Golden Age of female professional wrestling. At this point they don't even need their own show.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2019 17:08:44 GMT -5
Ronda wasn't wrong when she said she was the reason Becky's main eventing WM, but it is lame. Becky and Charlotte are good enough to main event WM any year, with or without Ronda. She's really bullying this main event storyline in similar ways as Lesnar except it's not as blatant. WWE should have already had the women main eventing a WM but nope, we had to wait until Ronda shows up. She's Ronda and yeah I get that but these women should have already been at the level where they can main event a ppv without her. It's the most WWE thing to decide "Becky's going to be our main woman but also we're still not really behind the women without Ronda". Like how they positioned New Day as focal points of the tag division but never even experimented with the idea of making the tag team division matter more or running with those dudes as stars. Becky gets to be top dog of a division that doesn't have the office backing to amount to much once Ronda walks. Yep you're right about that. New Day did so much but it took an accidental injury to put Kofi in his current spot and to elevate the group as a whole. They say "nah you don't sell merch" to see your stock but that's never enough to put you in that top position. You have to work harder than everyone else, sell merch, hit all the boxes AND THEN SOMEHOW luck into that main spot. That's why Becky's in her current position.
But hey Ronda's contract still holds more weight compared to the work you've put in Becky. You might not win yet which will undoubtedly continue to do damage to you. It's sad.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Mar 29, 2019 17:11:40 GMT -5
Ronda wasn't wrong when she said she was the reason Becky's main eventing WM, but it is lame. Becky and Charlotte are good enough to main event WM any year, with or without Ronda. She's really bullying this main event storyline in similar ways as Lesnar except it's not as blatant. WWE should have already had the women main eventing a WM but nope, we had to wait until Ronda shows up. She's Ronda and yeah I get that but these women should have already been at the level where they can main event a ppv without her. It's the most WWE thing to decide "Becky's going to be our main woman but also we're still not really behind the women without Ronda". Like how they positioned New Day as focal points of the tag division but never even experimented with the idea of making the tag team division matter more or running with those dudes as stars. Becky gets to be top dog of a division that doesn't have the office backing to amount to much once Ronda walks. Yep you're right about that. New Day did so much but it took an accidental injury to put Kofi in his current spot and to elevate the group as a whole. They say "nah you don't sell merch" to see your stock but that's never enough to put you in that top position. You have to work harder than everyone else, sell merch, hit all the boxes AND THEN SOMEHOW luck into that main spot. That's why Becky's in her current position.
But hey Ronda's contract still holds more weight compared to the work you've put in Becky. You might not win yet which will undoubtedly continue to do damage to you. It's sad.
All this time it felt like WWE was actually utilizing Ronda well for the ultimate purpose of using her to uplift their womens' division, help bring it to the next level of legitimacy and perception. Turns out it's just about showcasing Ronda. What a joke.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2019 17:16:12 GMT -5
All this time it felt like WWE was actually utilizing Ronda well for the ultimate purpose of using her to uplift their womens' division, help bring it to the next level of legitimacy and perception. Turns out it's just about showcasing Ronda. What a joke. She's Lesnaring it out. I want her to go away asap, no questions asked. Just imagine if Ronda wins at WM, just, imagine. Then Becky wins the next night on Raw.
That'll be such horseshit.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Mar 29, 2019 17:23:11 GMT -5
All this time it felt like WWE was actually utilizing Ronda well for the ultimate purpose of using her to uplift their womens' division, help bring it to the next level of legitimacy and perception. Turns out it's just about showcasing Ronda. What a joke. She's Lesnaring it out. I want her to go away asap, no questions asked. Just imagine if Ronda wins at WM, just, imagine. Then Becky wins the next night on Raw.
That'll be such horseshit.
At this point the only thing keeping my cynicism at bay is the fact that ratings are so down and WWE is already in such panic mode that they might feel forced to give everyone the happy endings to their big three matches just to keep ratings up moving into the post-Mania period. They literally can't afford to pull that Wrestlemania 34 Brock Lesnar shit this time.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2019 17:35:15 GMT -5
Even if they have Kofi win (which they should) I can see a WM 2000 ending where fans throw garbage into the ring if Ronda wins, lol. I still want to believe Becky's going to do the damn thing, but that crowd on Raw the next night if that happened...
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Post by abjordans on Mar 29, 2019 17:44:22 GMT -5
I think I might live in an alternate dimension, because the whole second page of this thread is discussion about how WWE is not doing right by Lynch. In a thread about her being the #1 merch seller a week before she main events Wrestlemania.
Not even two days ago the same people were saying Beck is too OP and booked too strongly.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Mar 29, 2019 19:24:12 GMT -5
I think I might live in an alternate dimension, because the whole second page of this thread is discussion about how WWE is not doing right by Lynch. In a thread about her being the #1 merch seller a week before she main events Wrestlemania. Not even two days ago the same people were saying Beck is too OP and booked too strongly. It's not "WWE isn't doing right by Becky", it's the idea WWE isn't doing right by the women and that even Becky as an apparent top merch seller isn't doing much to influence other recent news and a general perception that the women are only being pushed because of Ronda. Becky can do very well in a marginalized corner of the roster and there still be discussion about how she's booked that runs separate to the question of how WWE treats and positions the entire division.
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Post by abjordans on Mar 29, 2019 19:29:19 GMT -5
I think I might live in an alternate dimension, because the whole second page of this thread is discussion about how WWE is not doing right by Lynch. In a thread about her being the #1 merch seller a week before she main events Wrestlemania. Not even two days ago the same people were saying Beck is too OP and booked too strongly. It's not "WWE isn't doing right by Becky", it's the idea WWE isn't doing right by the women and that even Becky as an apparent top merch seller isn't doing much to influence other recent news and a general perception that the women are only being pushed because of Ronda. Becky can do very well in a marginalized corner of the roster and there still be discussion about how she's booked that runs separate to the question of how WWE treats and positions the entire division. WWE features women more than any other major wrestling promotion in the world that isn’t an all women’s promotion. Ronda Rousey is a big star. It is a mutually beneficial relationship.
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Post by edgestar on Mar 29, 2019 19:30:39 GMT -5
Didn't AJ Lee very briefly crack that for all of a month or so? Yeah, she sold merch in a big way. I imagine some of it was because she had a really good logo, but they made freaking AJ socks, so she was definitely moving product. I own Ambrose socks, and a WrestleMANia shirt. Becky and Dean are a-okay
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Mar 29, 2019 19:40:16 GMT -5
It's not "WWE isn't doing right by Becky", it's the idea WWE isn't doing right by the women and that even Becky as an apparent top merch seller isn't doing much to influence other recent news and a general perception that the women are only being pushed because of Ronda. Becky can do very well in a marginalized corner of the roster and there still be discussion about how she's booked that runs separate to the question of how WWE treats and positions the entire division. WWE features women more than any other major wrestling promotion in the world that isn’t an all women’s promotion. Ronda Rousey is a big star. It is a mutually beneficial relationship. And the word is that they're apprehensive about doing another Evolution without Ronda. Moreover, that's not the point; there's a conversation to be had about how well WWE features its women or why, you weren't really engaging in that or talking about those points, instead trying to toss up a whole separate thing from that and try to weave it into the "Becky is OP" thread just because kn is wading in during this thread.
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