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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2019 20:55:39 GMT -5
And I don’t mean managers exclusive to one wrestler.
I’m looking at some of the old stuff on the Network and I see the likes of Harvey Whippleman managing Adam Bomb. This is what you would consider a complete mismatch. But you have to take in the fact that during this era, WWE had a lot of managers and a lot of those managers were assigned to certain wrestlers.
Me, I enjoyed this a lot. I thought it was super cool watching Bobby Heenan, Slick, Jimmy Hart and others manage 15 different wrestlers.
Would you like to see this return?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2019 20:56:42 GMT -5
Hell yeah. Managers should be around and they can be trying to trade for each other’s wrestlers and lure other wrestlers from one stable to another.
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Post by captainhindsite on Mar 29, 2019 20:59:33 GMT -5
I always liked it. It felt like you had a stable that didn't need to always interact or even get along.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2019 21:07:40 GMT -5
Not especially. I do wish they'd do them more often than they do (for instance, why in the hell do they keep letting Nia Jax talk for herself?, and that they weren't nonsensically terrified of the word like is going on with Lio Rush, but having it as a whole all over the show thing or giving managers their own direct storylines are things I could do without.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2019 21:34:07 GMT -5
Yeah, if we get more managers I hope they are more along the Slick/Jimmy Hart style.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2019 22:01:09 GMT -5
It's difficult to employ managers in effective roles when the owners of the company have been the kayfabe biggest heels for decades now.
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Post by abjordans on Mar 29, 2019 22:02:26 GMT -5
They just hired two managers, so this makes me think at least someone important is thinking “we need to get people to talk for guys who can work but can’t talk” which is pretty basic wrestling.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2019 22:16:01 GMT -5
Zelina Vega is such a damn good manager, she's shown why they still matter. I'd like to see her represent other people besides Andrade.
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Mar 29, 2019 22:19:00 GMT -5
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Mar 29, 2019 23:12:37 GMT -5
Greatly.
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Post by Mozenrath on Mar 29, 2019 23:38:17 GMT -5
They're a very handy tool, both for adding a dimension to a wrestler and for angle purposes.
It's something of a common idea of "so and so can talk, they don't need a manager", but yet, JJ Dillon added something to the Four Horsemen, guys who were perfectly capable promos. Obviously, talking for their client is part of it, but it also gives them someone to interact with, to cheat for them or otherwise add to spots they can do, and some people just look more important with an entourage.
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Post by schma on Mar 29, 2019 23:51:04 GMT -5
I would like to see some managers. Maybe not as extensive as the old days but something. As others mentioned, there are some wrestlers who would benefit greatly from a mouthpiece. I'd also like to see a return of backstage promo/interviews. I remember they'd have pretaped promos where people would give a quick 1-2 minute speech about their upcoming match to hype it. We don't need 20 minute promos as the start of Raw. Just scatter a few of those through the show.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2019 1:24:43 GMT -5
How can I miss managers when Corbin is the overly friendly hover manager, showing up every few minutes?
Yes. There's a reason, in spite of or perhaps because his being awful, don king is synonymous with tyson.
Anything to add depth and character.
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Mar 30, 2019 1:45:44 GMT -5
Kayfabe wise I never understood it. Some of these guys are able to land good matches week after week on their own, but some of them need to employ a manager to do it for them?
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Post by Nr1Humanoid on Mar 30, 2019 6:59:33 GMT -5
Since they'll most likely be hired for their looks, rather than talent, hard pass.
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Post by Prince Petty on Mar 30, 2019 8:05:01 GMT -5
Yes. Always have, always will.
There was something really interesting about the idea of a guy who could gather several big names into a stable that was all pulling in the same direction. It's not the same as a faction, like the Nation or Evolution, where the leader is a wrestler. It's generally a weedy guy, or a woman, who manipulates, coerces, cons or even just convinces various people that he is their path to success.
Even when the member list was underwhelming, like the Million Dollar Corporation, it was cool to see a bunch of guys who were clearly aligned, without them wrestling tag matches all the time. And, as usual, it gave more guys time on TV, even if they were just muscle for the group.
Zelina Vega and Lana have recently shown how a good manager can help get someone over, and there's absolutely no reason why the WWE couldn't use that formula to help more people.
Additionally, they were a great shorthand for introducing someone - If Bobby Heenan brought out a new wrestler, then you knew that guy was bad news, and you should boo him.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Mar 30, 2019 8:37:56 GMT -5
Kayfabe wise I never understood it. Some of these guys are able to land good matches week after week on their own, but some of them need to employ a manager to do it for them? I took it as everyone had one, it's just the heels wanted ones that'd come to the ring and help them cheat.
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Post by Perfect Timing on Mar 30, 2019 10:27:50 GMT -5
I'm more of a valet man myself. Give a boring guy or tag team a hot girl with decent charisma(Maryse/Ted DiBiase,Torrie Wilson/Carlito) and I usually start paying attention to them.
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Post by Hit Girl on Mar 30, 2019 13:19:31 GMT -5
Yes, managers/mouthpieces are essential to wrestling.
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Post by MrElijah on Mar 30, 2019 13:39:29 GMT -5
They're a very handy tool, both for adding a dimension to a wrestler and for angle purposes. It's something of a common idea of "so and so can talk, they don't need a manager", but yet, JJ Dillon added something to the Four Horsemen, guys who were perfectly capable promos. Obviously, talking for their client is part of it, but it also gives them someone to interact with, to cheat for them or otherwise add to spots they can do, and some people just look more important with an entourage. The gold standard of that, Heenan & Bockwinkel, didn't need each other were magic together. Managers can add something missing or extra to a wrestler. Titus added to Tozawa, Crews and Dana. Sure Apollo and Akira can flat out go but Titus made them fun as well. Also they make events that much bigger. You can't tell me Heenan didn't add a thing to Hogan/Andre.
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