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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Apr 1, 2019 17:51:42 GMT -5
There is no rub to beating Brock now. He's been beaten multiple times in this run.
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Post by King Devitt and the Woke Mob on Apr 1, 2019 21:16:25 GMT -5
Should've been The Demon vs. The Beast at Mania. The story from the Rumble to WM told itself.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2019 21:29:28 GMT -5
f***. No.
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Apr 1, 2019 22:25:19 GMT -5
Not only no.
Super no.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2019 23:27:10 GMT -5
If it mean Demon Balor winning it sure.
Seth is as boring as toast.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2019 23:30:41 GMT -5
I'm thinking the idea is: Brock wins at WM, then loses to Roman at next Saudi show. Doubt it on two counts - one, by current signs that isn't until November, and two, the word that made the rounds recently is that Roman's joined the crowd saying he doesn't want to go there.
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Post by thetower52 on Apr 1, 2019 23:47:49 GMT -5
I’d like if Brock and all members of the shield just stayed the f*** away from the belt for a year or two.
But if someone’s going to break Bruno’s record let’s get it out of the way now with brock
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Post by schma on Apr 1, 2019 23:52:52 GMT -5
Brock's absentee universal title run was old when it was his absentee WWE title run. The time for Seth to take this belt off him was when he was red hot. The time for Braun to take this title off him was when he was red hot. There have been so many times where it would have been perfect to take the title off Brock and WWE just waved as they drove past them. I am at the point where the Brooklyn f'n Brawler could come out and win the belt and I would be happy. Get the belt off Brock. If he still wants to do his show up once in a blue moon and have Heyman do his promo for the millionth time without the title then whatever. Just get the title off of Brock.
Sadly, Seth got the upper hand tonight so that likely means he's losing at WM.
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Post by CubsFan71 on Apr 2, 2019 0:00:14 GMT -5
I mean they might as well have Brock win. The title ain’t worth two shits as it is
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Post by Fade on Apr 2, 2019 1:42:15 GMT -5
In the spirit of “f*** It”, Yeah. And I haven’t enjoyed this program at all. Which is a shame cause back during his Ironman phase it was like “Yes. Seth is the guy to beat Brock” but eh, it’s all been eh. “But with Seth there’s a champion on the brand” yeah but he’s boring the shit out of me as a face so...alright? At least with Brock away I don’t think about him. And I’m not convinced having a champion makes ish better cause they were doing some stupid shit around the time Roman had the belt.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Apr 2, 2019 1:49:25 GMT -5
I wouldn’t mind if he did, mostly because I don’t care about Rollins at all. Don’t like him, don’t hate him, he’s just existing. If he wins, that’s cool too. Might go “Huh”.
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Post by Fauxnaki on Apr 2, 2019 6:37:49 GMT -5
There is no rub to beating Brock now. He's been beaten multiple times in this run. There is its the biggest possible rub you could get right now. He's one of the biggest sports stars in the world and when was the last time he was beat Clean?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2019 6:41:29 GMT -5
I'm not sure.
On one hand I want the title to be on someone who shows up on Raw every week. On the other hand we could end up seeing Rollins vs. Corbin for the title.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Apr 2, 2019 7:07:02 GMT -5
There is no rub to beating Brock now. He's been beaten multiple times in this run. There is its the biggest possible rub you could get right now. He's one of the biggest sports stars in the world and when was the last time he was beat Clean? None of that is true. There's no rub. He's in no way one of the biggest sports stars in the world--was a huge draw for the UFC, but its popularity plateaued long ago and it's pretty niche. Goldberg beat him clean as a sheet just for one.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2019 7:17:36 GMT -5
I really don't at all buy that there's anything at all to gain from beating Lesnar at this point. He matters too little and is too predictable for it to mean anything.
Especially since they've hardly been selective in keeping up the invincibility thing. Yeah, they usually have him win after a single F5... but it still just feels like every match ends on a wet fart when he does that because Roman kicked out of six of the freaking things at Mania last year and it's been kicked out of a ton of times before they started being really devoted to making it being a one-shot a thing at Mania 33. Yeah, he hasn't lost clean since Goldberg... but that was in three moves and he's constantly gotten his ass beaten on free TV since then. And it's not like Reigns finally pinning him after months of trying did anything to make him more interesting or over. Hell, they cut to black basically the second Roman won and put him back with the Shield the next night because they knew regardless of beating Brock it was overall pointless to winning fans over.
Be it Rollins, Balor, whatever, whoever they finally have beat Lesnar - assuming it's not Reigns because that'll just get him right back to being booed since it already happened when he brought up the possibility a few weeks ago - will probably get a big pop in the moment and then settle right back into the aimless sludge of WWE's main event scene because they don't know how to book people to have momentum.
Which I realize could be read as an argument for, "Just keep the belt on Brock then!" but... One, he's not any better off at all. All of his segments are exactly the f***ing same, the only difference is they don't happen as often as other guys. Two, they're going to have to return to actually having a belt on Raw at some point and after two straight years of it it's time to just get it the hell over with. Especially given ending the Streak was five years ago at this point - it doesn't mean anything anymore.
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Post by Fauxnaki on Apr 2, 2019 7:24:49 GMT -5
There is its the biggest possible rub you could get right now. He's one of the biggest sports stars in the world and when was the last time he was beat Clean? None of that is true. There's no rub. He's in no way one of the biggest sports stars in the world--was a huge draw for the UFC, but its popularity plateaued long ago and it's pretty niche. Goldberg beat him clean as a sheet just for one. Goldberg was the only one somewhat recently and even that could be seen as a fluke and like 2 years ago. If beating someone who his virtually u defeated and had one of the most dominating title reigns in history isn't a rub in wrestling I don't know what is. Also Brock is still a big star lots of people know who he is. tell me a bigger star in wwe right now that isn't Cena
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2019 7:26:02 GMT -5
None of that is true. There's no rub. He's in no way one of the biggest sports stars in the world--was a huge draw for the UFC, but its popularity plateaued long ago and it's pretty niche. Goldberg beat him clean as a sheet just for one. Goldberg was the only one somewhat recently and even that could be seen as a fluke and like 2 years ago. If beating someone who his virtually u defeated and had one of the most dominating title reigns in history isn't a rub in wrestling I don't know what is. Also Brock is still a big star lots of people know who he is. tell me a bigger star in wwe right now that isn't Cena WWE has no stars. None. Not a single person does a thing to stop the freefall ratings are in and that includes Brock when he can be assed to show up. Also, just beating a star doesn't in itself accomplish anything. Drew's been beating down every single non-Brock main-eventer Raw has for months, nobody cares. Kozlov beat Undertaker clean, nobody cared. Beating Lesnar might make for a big pop but it'd mean nothing going forward because no one has any momentum, even if they did they'd be the only one so there'd be zero way to sustain it, and Lesnar's basically just a plot device that barely connects to anything anyway.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Apr 2, 2019 7:26:57 GMT -5
Ya just moved the goalposts from your own argument. That's ok. To be honest, I don't care if he wins one way another, I haven't watched in months.
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Post by Fauxnaki on Apr 2, 2019 7:30:35 GMT -5
Ya just moved the goalposts from your own argument. That's ok. To be honest, I don't care if he wins one way another, I haven't watched in months. I didn't move the goal posts at all you said "there's no rub from beating Brock" I said why there is.
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Post by Loser troll. Please ban me on Apr 2, 2019 7:44:38 GMT -5
Dear god no. One of the reasons Raw sucks so bad is that its main champion is some dude who barely shows up. We don’t need more of that. Raw will just be the same but with an extra different coloured belt False. It will have a visible belt for wrestlers to vie for and people to care about. As it is, in kayfabe, the belt is worthless because it's never defended.
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