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Post by RedSmile on Apr 2, 2019 8:38:24 GMT -5
Never been much of a fan of his, but the reason for his career slide is absolutely ridiculous. He wasn't even the one accused of attempting to rape anybody. He was just the guy's boss. He was also the victim's boss, and when she came forward, he didn't do jack shit and privately tried to discredit her. Elgin has no defense for his actions or his inaction.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Apr 2, 2019 8:44:44 GMT -5
I wish he wasn't garbage outside the ring, because I love his in ring stuff. Like a modern, more athletic Steve Williams.
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Post by Andy Martin on Apr 2, 2019 9:55:50 GMT -5
*shrug* Even disregarding the baggage, I wasn't much of a fan. That’s where I’m at with him as well. Just one of those guys I never really “got”
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Apr 2, 2019 10:16:41 GMT -5
*shrug* Even disregarding the baggage, I wasn't much of a fan. That’s where I’m at with him as well. Just one of those guys I never really “got” I feel like "Big Rugged Bald Dude" might be the most boring wrestling archetype.
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Post by The Spelunker! on Apr 2, 2019 10:17:14 GMT -5
The talk is he might be going to NOAH
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Post by The 1Watcher Experience on Apr 2, 2019 10:23:06 GMT -5
I’m not a fan but I’m not going to pretend he won’t get work because of his past. He’ll end up somewhere decent.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Apr 2, 2019 10:35:41 GMT -5
*shrug* Even disregarding the baggage, I wasn't much of a fan. That’s where I’m at with him as well. Just one of those guys I never really “got” I always saw him as dollar store Steve Williams.
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Post by Facetious on Apr 2, 2019 10:44:25 GMT -5
James Ellsworth is still getting work so I can assume Elgin can find some somewhere. I mean he'll find work in low level Midwest/St. Louis area indies, but he is a ghost in anywhere prominent. Maybe he gets lucky and AAW throws him a bone, but he better not hold his breath. Eh, his last AAW appearance didn't pan out too well lol. Even him getting Naito there didn't help.
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Post by Rave on Apr 2, 2019 11:55:05 GMT -5
Good riddance to bad rubbish.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Apr 2, 2019 12:06:17 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2019 13:23:58 GMT -5
I'd say "Good, I hope we never see him again", but Ellsworth gets bookings. Swann is in TNA. Bram gets bookings.
Without an Adam Rose like approach, going and getting his head sorted, making it clear he knows he did wrong and his attitude has changed, I'd struggle to support any company hiring him.
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Post by Chainsaw on Apr 2, 2019 13:31:14 GMT -5
Good.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Apr 2, 2019 15:03:23 GMT -5
I'd say "Good, I hope we never see him again", but Ellsworth gets bookings. Swann is in TNA. Bram gets bookings. Without an Adam Rose like approach, going and getting his head sorted, making it clear he knows he did wrong and his attitude has changed, I'd struggle to support any company hiring him. I cant speak for Bram or Ellsworth but Swann very much did things to show he had remorse for what he did. Elgin has never shown remorse or even admitted he could have made a mistake
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Post by King Devitt and the Woke Mob on Apr 2, 2019 17:00:19 GMT -5
I got to see Elgin vs. Ishii at least (in a match that I swore Ishii broke his (freaking) neck).
That's all I cared about in his entire run.
Dude is impressive, and got himself in fantastic shape, but he's just boring otherwise.
"oooh I lift weights, look at the dumbbells on my gear!"
Dude, everyone else there lifts weights too. Might as well have a picture of a potato and a fork on your gear being all "I eat food!"
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Apr 2, 2019 17:06:32 GMT -5
I got to see Elgin vs. Ishii at least (in a match that I swore Ishii broke his (freaking) neck). That's all I cared about in his entire run. Dude is impressive, and got himself in fantastic shape, but he's just boring otherwise. "oooh I lift weights, look at the dumbbells on my gear!" Dude, everyone else there lifts weights too. Might as well have a picture of a potato and a fork on your gear being all "I eat food!"So, Elgin vs. Ryback in some weird backwater indie nobody has ever heard of?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2019 17:19:12 GMT -5
I'd say "Good, I hope we never see him again", but Ellsworth gets bookings. Swann is in TNA. Bram gets bookings. Without an Adam Rose like approach, going and getting his head sorted, making it clear he knows he did wrong and his attitude has changed, I'd struggle to support any company hiring him. I cant speak for Bram or Ellsworth but Swann very much did things to show he had remorse for what he did. Elgin has never shown remorse or even admitted he could have made a mistake Did he? Do you have a link to a story or anything? Everything I saw in the aftermath was him being a tool. Not disbelieving you, would just like to see.
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Post by Mozenrath on Apr 2, 2019 17:23:54 GMT -5
I'm sure Elgin can still get work somewhere, like I could see him popping up in Mexico without issue, though I dunno how interested they'd be in his style.
In addition to the creeper shit, the stuff he tried to pull on Jeff Cobb is the kind of thing I could see giving people pause. It's rare to have someone caught on record talking about trying to f*** someone over professionally in such clear terms.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2019 17:51:30 GMT -5
I liked his in ring work enough, but he wasn't the most exciting presence in NJPW. He's really good mechanically but there's not a whole lot of emotion behind what he does. Hopefully this makes room for more Jeff Cobb in New Japan.
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Post by AwamoriRock on Apr 2, 2019 18:05:25 GMT -5
The talk is he might be going to NOAH Nooooooooo
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Apr 2, 2019 18:54:38 GMT -5
I can't think of any gaijin with a solid push under Gedo's booking era that have been less worth the interest or focus than Elgin has. Even just from an in-ring consideration the dude is as generic a not-so-tall big man as they come.
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