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Post by Big DSR Energy on Apr 5, 2019 16:13:34 GMT -5
There's a ton of revisionist history with him: "he wasn't a good worker" to "he was never over". Both of those are false Definitely. Sable outshined him eventually, but people - especially kids - definitely dug the Wildman and his high flying style. I dug the Wildman and his high flying style.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2019 16:23:33 GMT -5
Definitely. Sable outshined him eventually, but people - especially kids - definitely dug the Wildman and his high flying style. I dug the Wildman and his high flying style. Have you heard tell of Kairi Sane and her yacht persona?
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Post by Jake, The Jake, Jake on Apr 5, 2019 20:45:42 GMT -5
I like Luke Harper, but...
Was a tag guy his whole run, won the belt out of no where as soon as his tag team broke up, did nothing with it, lost it back to the guy he won it from a month later, never recaptured it, then was back to being a tag guy within six months. I think he’s in the running.
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Post by RI Richmark on Apr 5, 2019 23:20:37 GMT -5
Albert was weird but Douglas winning by foreit was the equivalent of Mideon being handed the European Championship IMO. I'm pretty certain the reason Douglas won by forfeit is that Shawn didn't wanna do the job.
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Post by grungesmurf on Apr 6, 2019 17:41:45 GMT -5
Albert was weird but Douglas winning by foreit was the equivalent of Mideon being handed the European Championship IMO. I'm pretty certain the reason Douglas won by forfeit is that Shawn didn't wanna do the job. Yup spun that bs narrative about being beat up by nine marines. Cha right. Most overrated wrestler ever.
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Post by segaz on Apr 7, 2019 7:36:02 GMT -5
The answer is Chyna because there surely shouldn't have ever been a female Intercontinental Champion. Can any of you imagine what the vast majority of the world's male population would be thinking if a woman
ever becomes the WWE Universal Champion or the WWE Champion? The answer is that the vast majority of the world's male population would immediately laugh at the WWE
and trash the WWE if there ever is a female WWE Universal Champion or a female WWE Champion. I'd request politely that you don't say stuff like this and claim to speak for all male wrestling fans. If a woman held one of the world titles now I'd be all over that shit. I loved Chyna winning the intercontinental and even getting a shot at the WWE title. I don't buy her, or any of the current women in the WWE beating Brock Lesnar clean.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Apr 7, 2019 7:39:23 GMT -5
I'd request politely that you don't say stuff like this and claim to speak for all male wrestling fans. If a woman held one of the world titles now I'd be all over that shit. I loved Chyna winning the intercontinental and even getting a shot at the WWE title. I don't buy her, or any of the current women in the WWE beating Brock Lesnar clean. What about Daniel Bryan?
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Post by segaz on Apr 7, 2019 7:44:51 GMT -5
I loved Chyna winning the intercontinental and even getting a shot at the WWE title. I don't buy her, or any of the current women in the WWE beating Brock Lesnar clean. What about Daniel Bryan? Probably not without some shenanigans, such as Brock injuring himself or ref knocked out or a quick schoolboy pin. But over powering and wearing him down in a straight head to head battle? No.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Apr 7, 2019 7:51:51 GMT -5
Probably not without some shenanigans, such as Brock injuring himself or ref knocked out or a quick schoolboy pin. But over powering and wearing him down in a straight head to head battle? No. I mean Chyna over Daniel Bryan, so she'd be WWE Champion, that I could see them working with since she was bigger and stronger than he is.
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Post by Susan "Poison" Candy on Apr 7, 2019 8:00:43 GMT -5
I totally forgotten that Ryback was Intercontinental Champion
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Post by Instant Classic on Apr 7, 2019 8:12:16 GMT -5
A lot of Miz’s reigns.
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Post by Bad Moon on Apr 7, 2019 10:04:36 GMT -5
The most egregious I can think of is probably is Bryan's title run in 2015. At that point he had already headlined WM30 and proven himself to be the most over wrestler in the world, he didn't deserve to crash into a mediocre midcard clusterf*** featuring the likes of Ziggler, R-Truth and Stardust at that point in his career. And to make it worse he then lost it to Zack Ryder.
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Post by Vincent Whiney on Apr 7, 2019 10:17:27 GMT -5
Santino
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Post by Citizen Snips on Apr 7, 2019 10:26:48 GMT -5
They just handed the damn thing to Pat Patterson!
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Post by samantha on Apr 7, 2019 11:57:13 GMT -5
Are your shoelaces untied? Cos you be trippin.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Apr 7, 2019 12:55:25 GMT -5
Are your shoelaces untied? Cos you be trippin. I've been a Miz Stan since he was on Real World, and even I would say at least a couple of his reigns have done neither him not the championship any service. The one-night reign after he won it at Mania during his first face run is a good example.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Apr 7, 2019 14:28:34 GMT -5
The most egregious I can think of is probably is Bryan's title run in 2015. At that point he had already headlined WM30 and proven himself to be the most over wrestler in the world, he didn't deserve to crash into a mediocre midcard clusterf*** featuring the likes of Ziggler, R-Truth and Stardust at that point in his career. And to make it worse he then lost it to Zack Ryder. That isn't what happened, He was in the IC title multiman, but he had to vacate it due to injury. I thought they handled it decently, putting over how he'd had a year out and this was his first chance at a title, winning it a year after winning the Undisputed title. If he'd been able to keep it, might have been a fantastic run but we'll never know.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Apr 7, 2019 14:37:13 GMT -5
Shane Douglas was a great wrestler though. Not sure why you’d think he, of all people devalues the title. Especially when you’ve got guys like Ezekiel Jackson and Curtis Axel in the title history. I’m browsing through the history of the title right now and for the most part, nearly everyone was deserving of it or had a good/memorable storyline that called for the change. I mean... The Mountie wasn’t the best wrestler ever but everyone remembers him beating Bret. And then Marty Jannetty beating Shawn. But Jackson and Axel are the drizzling shits. At least the likes of Ahmed Johnson and Test were over. And Albert... well he’s one of my favourite big men so I can’t say much bad about him. Douglas case was the situation. He didn't win it by beating someone, he was handed the belt because HBK forfit, and lost it right away. What good could come from that? Plus as good as he was, nothing he did in a WWE ring stood out and wasn't that over. Gimmick wasn't that good so yeah. Now if he went out and had a classic and held it longer that not even an hour. Likely be a whole different conversation.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Apr 7, 2019 16:03:54 GMT -5
Chyna not because she was a female, but because she had no idea what the hell she was doing. Jarrett and Jericho don’t have good stories about working with her. Triple H pretty much had to lay down the match for her move by move.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Apr 7, 2019 16:10:12 GMT -5
They just handed the damn thing to Pat Patterson! Just handing it to him would have been better. They had to go and concoct this big elaborate backstory and fake matches and fake events just to make it seem like he should have it.
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