Bo Rida
Fry's dog Seymour
Pulled one over on everyone. Got away with it, this time.
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Post by Bo Rida on Apr 6, 2019 8:53:51 GMT -5
WALTER is the monster they wished Brock Lesnar could be. I dunno about that. To me he's a more agile JBL who chops a lot. You know Vince has to be creaming his pants over the dude tho. Ugh I got that JBL vibe at one point and got taken right out the match. That's in me not Walter though. Good presence, look and general aura and seems good at enough things to stop becoming two dimensional (ie he actually sells). So not a fan as such but can see myself becoming one in future.
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lucas_lee
Hank Scorpio
Heel turn is finished, now stripping away my personality
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Post by lucas_lee on Apr 6, 2019 8:55:53 GMT -5
Ive always been a fan of his but by far his best WWE performance
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dbrussel
Don Corleone
Former WOW employee
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Post by dbrussel on Apr 6, 2019 11:34:23 GMT -5
At least the guy has a name that Vince can not cut short. And in caps. He's ahead of the game. He's worthy of the title only for this.
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Post by darbus alan on Apr 6, 2019 11:37:52 GMT -5
WALTER is legit because his gimmick is being an unstoppable badass with the name "Walter" in all caps and by God does he make it work.
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Apr 6, 2019 13:02:00 GMT -5
WALTER is legit because his gimmick is being an unstoppable badass with the name "Walter" in all caps and by God does he make it work. You know he’s badass because he’s got his one name in all-caps.
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JCBaggee
Hank Scorpio
Writer, streamer. I used to write for CBR but then they fired everyone who cared about their writers
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Post by JCBaggee on Apr 6, 2019 13:20:15 GMT -5
At least the guy has a name that Vince can not cut short. And in caps. He's ahead of the game. He's worthy of the title only for this. "We'll call him WAL! Cole can keep screaming about how he's an unbreakable wall. It's brilliant!"
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Apr 6, 2019 13:21:34 GMT -5
At least the guy has a name that Vince can not cut short. And in caps. He's ahead of the game. He's worthy of the title only for this. They’re gonna use my display name as inspiration.
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Post by KobashiChop on Apr 6, 2019 14:13:45 GMT -5
I've said this a lot with Walter. He is just a big monster that doesn't do anything flashy but just clubs the shit out of guys. He builds the heat for a baby face so well.
Not every big man should do the stuff War Raider Hanson can. It's good to just be a big f*** off King Kong motherf***er once in a while.
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Post by hashtagdaley/JudasDay on Apr 6, 2019 14:23:49 GMT -5
I sure do believe in Walter, but I believe in Pete Dunne a hell of a lot more. What a wrestler. Basically my takeaway from every Pete Dunne match I ever see. I freakin’ love that guy.
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Apr 6, 2019 14:27:33 GMT -5
I sure do believe in Walter, but I believe in Pete Dunne a hell of a lot more. What a wrestler. Basically my takeaway from every Pete Dunne match I ever see. I freakin’ love that guy. Dunne sold the hell out of WALTER’s destructive offense and managed to also look good going out on his shield with the defense.
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Apr 6, 2019 14:55:19 GMT -5
He wants to avoid criticism about just chopping? An easy fix: Never chop again. (and stop the lariats, too)
Open-hand chops are sneakily a terrible thing in wrestling. Even if they don't cause permanent damage (and they can, especially repeated hits), their entire purpose is that they break kayfabe. "Look, kids, this move REALLY hurts! We can't fake this; listen to how loud it was!" That's why those moves are over: the audience knows they're 'real.' That is a bad road to go down in pro wrestling.
I don't want to watch wrestling where the moves really hurt. I don't want a wrestling audience that's IMPRESSED when the moves really hurt.
Dude's got a great repertoire of slams, and he's super strong, which means he can do a million crazy lifts and drops safely. If he stuck to that, I'd be a fan.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Apr 6, 2019 15:41:53 GMT -5
I really don't see how this chops shit is a big issue (besides the risk of a freak accident)
It's a match, shit is going to hurt. He's not trying to intentionally maim someone
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Apr 6, 2019 17:19:45 GMT -5
I really don't see how this chops shit is a big issue (besides the risk of a freak accident) It's a match, shit is going to hurt. He's not trying to intentionally maim someone I think I said why? 1. It causes unnecessary pain when the entire point is supposed to be not hurting one another; 2. The fact that some things about wrestling unavoidably might hurt is not a reason that it's cool to add to that when you don't have to; 3. It rewards the audience for liking something explicitly because it causes real pain, when again, the entire point is supposed to be not hurting one another; 4. It CAN be dangerous, both because of freak accidents and because repeated injuries can lead to an infection; 5. I'm worried about a potential negative spiral where workers hit one another harder and harder, and so fans need more impact to pop for it. 6. Most importantly, It breaks kayfabe. The entire point of the move is that it really hurts. That's the reason people pop for it. Even on a tacit level, wrestlers should absolutely not be reminding the audience that most of their moves are fake.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Apr 6, 2019 17:24:55 GMT -5
I really don't see how this chops shit is a big issue (besides the risk of a freak accident) It's a match, shit is going to hurt. He's not trying to intentionally maim someone I think I said why? 1. It causes unnecessary pain when the entire point is supposed to be not hurting one another; 2. The fact that some things about wrestling unavoidably might hurt is not a reason that it's cool to add to that when you don't have to; 3. It rewards the audience for liking something explicitly because it causes real pain, when again, the entire point is supposed to be not hurting one another; 4. It CAN be dangerous, both because of freak accidents and because repeated injuries can lead to an infection; 5. I'm worried about a potential negative spiral where workers hit one another harder and harder, and so fans need more impact to pop for it. 6. Most importantly, It breaks kayfabe. The entire point of the move is that it really hurts. That's the reason people pop for it. Even on a tacit level, wrestlers should absolutely not be reminding the audience that most of their moves are fake. I think you're looking at this way too hard
Unnecessary pain? If you're a wrestler would you rather take a suplex from the top rope or a slap to the chest? Imo this is a big bowl of nothing because he's not trying to intentionally injure someone, his chops are apart of the match, same with Roddy doing his backbreakers, Bucks and their superkicks etc...
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Post by Duke Cameron on Apr 6, 2019 17:53:54 GMT -5
Honestly? I think I rather take the suplex.
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Post by Surfer Sandman on Apr 6, 2019 17:53:57 GMT -5
I've said this a lot with Walter. He is just a big monster that doesn't do anything flashy but just clubs the shit out of guys. He builds the heat for a baby face so well. Not every big man should do the stuff War Raider Hanson can. It's good to just be a big f*** off King Kong motherf***er once in a while. He seems to have a King Kong Bundy-quality to him. I hope they give him a little more oomph to really get him over.
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Apr 6, 2019 17:59:12 GMT -5
I think I said why? 1. It causes unnecessary pain when the entire point is supposed to be not hurting one another; 2. The fact that some things about wrestling unavoidably might hurt is not a reason that it's cool to add to that when you don't have to; 3. It rewards the audience for liking something explicitly because it causes real pain, when again, the entire point is supposed to be not hurting one another; 4. It CAN be dangerous, both because of freak accidents and because repeated injuries can lead to an infection; 5. I'm worried about a potential negative spiral where workers hit one another harder and harder, and so fans need more impact to pop for it. 6. Most importantly, It breaks kayfabe. The entire point of the move is that it really hurts. That's the reason people pop for it. Even on a tacit level, wrestlers should absolutely not be reminding the audience that most of their moves are fake. I think you're looking at this way too hard
Unnecessary pain? If you're a wrestler would you rather take a suplex from the top rope or a slap to the chest? Imo this is a big bowl of nothing because he's not trying to intentionally injure someone, his chops are apart of the match, same with Roddy doing his backbreakers, Bucks and their superkicks etc...
Come on, "this one thing hurts, so it's okay to do this other thing that hurts" isn't a very good argument. Also, why do you keep saying "he's not trying to intentionally injure anyone" when no one thinks he is? I gave five different reasons why I think it's bad, and none had anything at all do to with trying to injure his opponents. People in this very thread are praising his chops because they clearly cause real pain to his opponents, and I'm saying that is a really dumb and bad thing for wrestlers to use to pop a crowd.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Apr 6, 2019 18:27:07 GMT -5
At least the guy has a name that Vince can not cut short. And in caps. He's ahead of the game. He's worthy of the title only for this. He can be an all-American babyface called 'Walt.' Or get given a Waldo gimmick.
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Apr 6, 2019 18:53:33 GMT -5
At least the guy has a name that Vince can not cut short. And in caps. He's ahead of the game. He's worthy of the title only for this. He can be an all-American babyface called 'Walt.' Or get given a Waldo gimmick. WALTER getting a gimmick based on me confirmed.
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Post by celtics543 on Apr 6, 2019 18:58:56 GMT -5
I'm split on WALTER.
1. I enjoyed his match with Pete Dunne last night. It's the first match I've ever seen with him and I thought it was a great watch.
2. I'm 100% on the Bret Hart bandwagon as far as if you're intentionally doing something that hurts then you're a mark. Fans assume that what you're doing doesn't hurt so if it actually hurts on purpose then who's getting worked? Everyone who does chops, including Flair, always seemed a little ridiculous to me. At no point did I ever think what Bret Hart did looked fake and he never used chops, so I don't understand why anyone really needs to use them.
Basically it's fun to watch but I wouldn't want to take one of those chops from him if I was one of the other guys.
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