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Post by wildojinx on Apr 8, 2019 22:21:09 GMT -5
I enjoy them both, but the problem is they've pretty much become an afterthought in the WWE, and tonight's match proved it. Also not helping that there's no tag teams in the company who wrestle a similar style (the closest is the War Raiders in NXT, and they're not going to the main roster anytime soon), so they cant even have a rivalry with another team.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2019 22:22:49 GMT -5
I don't think they're in a bad place really, WWE just grossly miscalculated peoples' desire to see them spontaneously main event a post-Mania Raw against two top guys in the middle of a title unification match.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2019 22:23:19 GMT -5
They're stale as hell because, like all of the other teams, they're not allowed to have their own feuds as singles competitors outside of the tag division. I don't put it on them, they're just stuck doing the same shit over and over like so many others.
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Post by BorneAgain on Apr 8, 2019 22:24:44 GMT -5
I don't think they're in a bad place really, WWE just grossly miscalculated peoples' desire to see them spontaneously main event a post-Mania Raw against two top guys in the middle of a title unification match. They could have have announced a tag match at the beginning and while not the most exciting thing, people would have been into it more because the Bar typically make for fun main events.
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Post by Abdullah on Apr 8, 2019 22:25:24 GMT -5
I don't think they're in a bad place really, WWE just grossly miscalculated peoples' desire to see them spontaneously main event a post-Mania Raw against two top guys in the middle of a title unification match. They didn’t. Raw after Wrestlemania has ended at least a few times with a dud of a tag match. They know the crowd won’t like it. But it’s been a long week and they don’t care.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Apr 8, 2019 22:26:20 GMT -5
They're not in a bad place really but they are just foils where they will never get a W or look threatening
This is a scenario where like with New Day both guys or at least Cesaro since he's healthy could get more singles action and other plays manager but they don't do that
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2019 22:27:46 GMT -5
Cesaro has way more charisma on his own. He could main event shows and I actually think he works better as a face.
Honestly... I’ve wanted to see Sheamus as the leader of SAnitY for a good while now. They need SOMETHING and he would give the group some star power. Dain and Wolfe can be the tag team, Young as the midcarder and Sheamus as the main threat.
Either way, The Bar has done everything possible now. It’s time to breakup and move on.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2019 22:30:39 GMT -5
I don't think they're in a bad place really, WWE just grossly miscalculated peoples' desire to see them spontaneously main event a post-Mania Raw against two top guys in the middle of a title unification match. They didn’t. Raw after Wrestlemania has ended at least a few times with a dud of a tag match. They know the crowd won’t like it. But it’s been a long week and they don’t care. Who knows what the thought process was but ultimately the Bar are a solid midcard tag team that were put in a bad spot tonight.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Apr 8, 2019 22:32:23 GMT -5
I don't think they're in a bad place really, WWE just grossly miscalculated peoples' desire to see them spontaneously main event a post-Mania Raw against two top guys in the middle of a title unification match. They didn’t. Raw after Wrestlemania has ended at least a few times with a dud of a tag match. They know the crowd won’t like it. But it’s been a long week and they don’t care. Last year, the Raw After Mania closed with The Miztourage vs. Jeff Hardy, Seth Rollins, and Finn Balor. No one got booed, and all six were quite over. The negative reaction was entirely on the bait and switch.
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Post by Abdullah on Apr 8, 2019 22:43:11 GMT -5
They didn’t. Raw after Wrestlemania has ended at least a few times with a dud of a tag match. They know the crowd won’t like it. But it’s been a long week and they don’t care. Last year, the Raw After Mania closed with The Miztourage vs. Jeff Hardy, Seth Rollins, and Finn Balor. No one got booed, and all six were quite over. The negative reaction was entirely on the bait and switch. I definitely remember one year where it ended in a lame tag match. I think Big Show and Roman were involved. The crowd amused itself. I take your point. There was always gonna be a switch and it should have been handled better but these tag main events are the norm for Raw after WM, it seems.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2019 22:46:02 GMT -5
Imagine if we didn't get Kofimania because Kofi & Big E were facing The Usos for the millionth time at WM or something. There are a bunch of cool things they could be doing with The Bar, yet all they seem to do is fight the Usos or New Day.
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Post by rrg251 on Apr 8, 2019 22:48:44 GMT -5
I think the issue is that they lacked motivation to carry out the attack themselves, so they gave off the impression that they were acting as hired guns, and we didn’t find out for who, which made the show feel incomplete, on top of ruining the unification match of course
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Post by markymark on Apr 8, 2019 22:51:38 GMT -5
They got AEW chants, thats not good.(not their fault though)
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Post by Dub H on Apr 8, 2019 22:56:25 GMT -5
I don't think they're in a bad place really, WWE just grossly miscalculated peoples' desire to see them spontaneously main event a post-Mania Raw against two top guys in the middle of a title unification match. Yeh , I could see if ot was someone considered a major player like Samoa Joe , Lashley ,hell maybe even the hardies, just attacking to end the show in a DQ would jave gotten heat. The biggest issue is having a DQ by a lower cars team and then a match for some reason? It is such a downgrade that no surprise people would be disappointed
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Apr 8, 2019 23:04:38 GMT -5
I dunno, I feel like The Bar has run it's course and it's time to split them.
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Post by lildude8218 on Apr 8, 2019 23:12:23 GMT -5
It's a shame about Ray
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Post by Gus Richlen: Ruffian on Apr 8, 2019 23:15:48 GMT -5
I dunno, I feel like The Bar has run it's course and it's time to split them. I love both guys, I love the team, but yes. Not sure where they'd go, though. Sheamus' days as world title material are over and while Kofi has shown that it's impossible to say "WWE will never get behind that guy" anymore Cesaro just seems to have a very clear ceiling of midcard.
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Post by Stone Coke Miami Watson 🥃 on Apr 8, 2019 23:15:58 GMT -5
It’s a shameful thing............lobster head
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2019 23:18:41 GMT -5
I dunno, I feel like The Bar has run it's course and it's time to split them. I love both guys, I love the team, but yes. Not sure where they'd go, though. Sheamus' days as world title material are over and while Kofi has shown that it's impossible to say "WWE will never get behind that guy" anymore Cesaro just seems to have a very clear ceiling of midcard. Cesaro going for the IC or US Titles with Sheamus as his mouthpiece and occasional tag partner would be nice.
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Post by Lt. Palumbo on Apr 8, 2019 23:27:26 GMT -5
So, I've not been paying too close attention, but I feel like for a while now they've been cast in the role of "spoiler"
Oh, Kofi wants to fight for the belt at Wrestlemania, yeah 'fraid not pal.
You guys want to see two champions fight to a finish? Sorry buddy.
And that's just a shitty role to be in. It's effectively the essence of "local man".
If they're just there to ruin things you like, obviously you're going to hate them and not in a productive narrative villain sort of way.
Give them something to do that isn't just "f*** the things you like"
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