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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2019 14:35:03 GMT -5
The problem is Vince thinks someone has to take the role of superhero face. Roman is not that sort of character. He should be a bad ass who is short and sweet on the mic.
You just know he'd be a great heel but I can't see that happening any time soon.
Also give him some new music FFS.
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Post by Widow's Peak on Apr 10, 2019 14:40:49 GMT -5
I just imagined Baron Corbin yelling this. Now I want them to make being afraid of ghosts part of Corbin's shtick. only if he does a full Scooby Doo... gu-gu--gu-gu-gu-gu-ghooosts! Cowardly ghost-chaser heel Baron Corbin is something I didn't know I needed in my life. I think that now that Roman is back and seemingly healthy, people who were booing him before feel a lot safer doing it again. He'll probably always get that segment of the audience who will boo him just because they want to be contrarian or to just have fun booing the top babyface. However, changing his music might help. Even Cena did that at one point.
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Post by Dub H on Apr 10, 2019 14:41:26 GMT -5
It's an interesting question because I haven't been to a show since 2002, when I was a kid. When I was a kid I liked all the faces and booed the heels, but now that I'm an adult it's a different story. I'd like to think I'd just cheer the people I like and boo the people I dislike, but part of me thinks it'd be fun to just play along and react how they want me to especially if kids are around. This reminds me of when I took my cousin’s son to RAW last July. At one point there was a Yes chant going, and he looked like he wanted to join in, but was unsure if he should, so I started and then he joined in, with a huuuuge smile on his face while doing it. You know why he was unsure? BECAUSE HE IS FICKLE! FICKLE!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2019 14:42:16 GMT -5
only if he does a full Scooby Doo... gu-gu--gu-gu-gu-gu-ghooosts! Cowardly ghost-chaser heel Baron Corbin is something I didn't know I needed in my life. I think that now that Roman is back and seemingly healthy, people who were booing him before feel a lot safer doing it again. He'll probably always get that segment of the audience who will boo him just because they want to be contrarian or to just have fun booing the top babyface. However, changing his music might help. Even Cena did that at one point. It's why I felt Corrupt Corbin's reign of terror as constable was the perfect time to bring Bray back. Corbin's character's a pathetic dumbass, so watching him fall for Bray's mind games would've been funny.
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Post by DZ: WF Legacy on Apr 10, 2019 14:49:11 GMT -5
We just saw how amazing it felt to see a deserving guy go over organically with the rabid support of the fans. Like the shirt says, against all odds. Roman Reigns was slotted in every favorable position with the intention of him being *the guy*, so of course fans are going to begin turning on him as the months go on and things normalize. Roman's a good dude and works hard, and yes he beat cancer, but that doesn't translate to justifying him getting the main spotlight over far more desirable people without some major adjustments to his persona. People don't want another Hulk Hogan. Kids don't know better, very casual fans don't really care enough, but your core fanbase doesn't want Hulk Hogan. They want people like Kofi, like Daniel Bryan, etc. That's one of the best things about how this business has changed over the years.
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Post by edgestar on Apr 10, 2019 14:50:01 GMT -5
Like every sports fan ever. What? I know PLENTY of people who don't boo at sporting events hence why I asked the question. Not everyone boos. Stop trying to take shots over something that wasn't malicious in any way like you keep doing in these threads. He answered the question. The "taking shots" part of the reply, wasn't necessary. I boo and cheer, because it's fun to do at shows. Heels play along to it, and it adds to the fun. Cheering can be surprisingly emotional (?) On Sunday, when Kofi won, people in the section I was in, were hugging each other!! Total strangers were sudden friends, in that moment!!
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Post by The 1Watcher Experience on Apr 10, 2019 15:28:45 GMT -5
THEN WWE NEEDS TO STOP RUNNING THEIR SHOWS IN HAUNTED ARENAS. I enjoyed this post far more than I should have. Thank you.
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Post by the2ndevil on Apr 10, 2019 17:12:14 GMT -5
What? I know PLENTY of people who don't boo at sporting events hence why I asked the question. Not everyone boos. Stop trying to take shots over something that wasn't malicious in any way like you keep doing in these threads. He answered the question. The "taking shots" part of the reply, wasn't necessary. I boo and cheer, because it's fun to do at shows. Heels play along to it, and it adds to the fun. Cheering can be surprisingly emotional (?) On Sunday, when Kofi won, people in the section I was in, were hugging each other!! Total strangers were sudden friends, in that moment!! This is the type of content I come here for.
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Post by edgestar on Apr 10, 2019 17:29:25 GMT -5
He answered the question. The "taking shots" part of the reply, wasn't necessary. I boo and cheer, because it's fun to do at shows. Heels play along to it, and it adds to the fun. Cheering can be surprisingly emotional (?) On Sunday, when Kofi won, people in the section I was in, were hugging each other!! Total strangers were sudden friends, in that moment!! This is the type of content I come here for. It was an awesome moment!!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2019 17:33:29 GMT -5
I've seen people who have been trashing WWE for years give praise to Kofi and this WM in general so that's dope. Idk if it'll translate into ratings but me, someone who doesn't cry at this stuff, cried when Kofi won.
Idk when the next time we'll see an angle hit that hard but needless to say we needed one now.
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Post by David-Arquette was in WCW 2000 on Apr 10, 2019 18:00:17 GMT -5
Thing is, Roman as been through a lot personally, beating cancer, but why should that stop the live crowds, or indeed the overall audience from showing their displeasure of the character? Roman Reigns is just as stale as he was.
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Post by thetower52 on Apr 10, 2019 18:11:08 GMT -5
Roman reigns the character is still the same shit character that he was before he left. It will wear thin just like it did before Nothing changed about him
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2019 18:22:48 GMT -5
Honestly the thing with Roman in my view is that booing being back is probably the BEST case scenario because, again, surviving cancer isn't going to suddenly make the character or his matches more entertaining. I feel like once the initial buzz wears off, if he's not getting boos he's getting silence.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Apr 10, 2019 18:29:40 GMT -5
This topic brings up a good question, given some people are booing Reigns I have to ask. Who here actually boos competitors during live events? Boo as in legit hate them or boo as in poking fun?
One my friends I was with was being the clownish asshole in booing Kurt while everyone cheered him which was funny
Other then that, I didn't boo Bryan, I cheered for Kofi
I'll mostly cheer for shit then boo it. If shit is bad i'm just mad and sitting there silent
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2019 18:31:05 GMT -5
This topic brings up a good question, given some people are booing Reigns I have to ask. Who here actually boos competitors during live events? Boo as in legit hate them or boo as in poking fun? One my friends I was with was being the clownish asshole in booing Kurt while everyone cheered him which was funny Other then that, I didn't boo Bryan, I cheered for Kofi
I'll mostly cheer for shit then boo it. If shit is bad i'm just mad and sitting there silent
Either or just boo in general.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Apr 10, 2019 18:31:45 GMT -5
Also once again their is no problem with people booing Roman
People were taking it a step far saying they hope he gets better but never comes back on TV which came across as more malicious than anything imo
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Post by edgestar on Apr 10, 2019 18:38:25 GMT -5
I've seen people who have been trashing WWE for years give praise to Kofi and this WM in general so that's dope. Idk if it'll translate into ratings but me, someone who doesn't cry at this stuff, cried when Kofi won. Idk when the next time we'll see an angle hit that hard but needless to say we needed one now. Some of those people, who were hugging in our section, were crying. It was definitely well deserved.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2019 19:45:28 GMT -5
Yeah I think it’s unfair to blame the fans for booing him. Everyone is glad he’s back healthy but once he’s a normal part of the show again his character will go right back to being hated unless they change it. You can’t expect the fans to cheer him forever because of the circumstances unrelated to his character, and I’m sure if you asked Roman he’d probably not want sympathy/pity cheers.
I’m not sure about a heel turn right now but this was a perfect chance for him to switch his character up. He could go on a bit of a losing streak, start doubting himself after coming back so quickly, and work his way back up again. I mean there are different ways to freshen him up. Bringing him back and just having him win easily again is just going to bring back the same resentment from the audience.
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Post by freeze Austin on Apr 10, 2019 20:04:35 GMT -5
Wanting the guy to live and make it back so he could support his family isn't suddenly going to make people like his character/ring work/whatever they didn't like about him before and the "There Can Only Be One" type push.
The best thing they can honestly do for him is change his SHIELD music and SHIELD ring gear, and get him away from SHIELD friends and SHIELD opponents.
I feel like one of the biggest reasons his push was soundly rejected by the audience was because he never lost the SHIELD training wheels the way that Rollins and Ambrose did.
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Post by baerrtt on Apr 11, 2019 8:40:31 GMT -5
Between Becky(especially Becky), Kofi and Seth I wouldn't be surprised, seriously, if Roman's days as the current Face of WWE are over anyway. Vince gave a majority of fans what they wanted this Mania as he did with Bryan 5 years ago and the ecstatic responses to the victories of the first three probably told him all he needed to know going forward....yeah I know Vince gonna Vince but since his return, contrary to opinions, I don't get the vibe that he's The Guy anymore and beating Drew did little to change that in my eyes.
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