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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Apr 10, 2019 21:08:26 GMT -5
So, it's well known that WrestleMania II is, pretty much a disaster from the standpoint of the multiple locations.
However, I propose that now, some 35 years later, the technology is now ahead enough and the talent pool is deep enough that perhaps it's time to try it again.
We know that crowd fatigue is a major issue for WrestleMania, so why not split the difference and run half the show in NJ and half the show in CA? With the three hour time difference, I figure it'll help manage the crowd energy and you can still have your show go however many hours.
Look, the easiest solution would just to have Mania be shorter, but they're not going to do that... So, let's think of something they might?
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Apr 10, 2019 21:13:18 GMT -5
Nobody is going to pay WrestleMania ticket prices to watch half the show on a screen, even if half the show is actually a good chunk of content.
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Post by Limity (BLM) on Apr 10, 2019 22:02:50 GMT -5
This idea has been batted around a couple times on here through the years, and I've always been interested in it.
An east coast / west coast split would be interesting. Have the live portion, then maybe titantron sized projectors cover the ring on all sides and the crowd can watch the other coast feed?
I think you're right, the rosters are big enough, and the pool of part time wrestlers and legends big enough that they might just be able to get away with it.
Maybe not a permanent change to the Wrestlemania format, maybe a special one off, with a year of build up and preparation to make it work.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Apr 10, 2019 22:05:20 GMT -5
Nobody is going to pay WrestleMania ticket prices to watch half the show on a screen, even if half the show is actually a good chunk of content. Yep, and people on both sides would feel ripped off since they could have gotten the better experience watching at home... and then be angry that their favorite wrestler is at the other side.
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Post by Mozenrath on Apr 10, 2019 22:06:43 GMT -5
A 2-day festival is much more practical, and even that has its problems.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2019 22:12:02 GMT -5
Ask the guys at the Manhattan Center how that worked out for them last year for Raw.
Seriously it’s pretty a festival as it is. With Access, NXT, HoF, Mania and Raw. I think if Mania had start time of 5 or 6 with the preshow starting two hours before that. I don’t think they would have half the problems or complaints they normally do.
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Post by Slanted and Enchanted on Apr 10, 2019 23:03:08 GMT -5
At this point I don't think there are any reasonable solutions to this time issue. For the viewer at home, watching a Wrestlemania taking place in different locations/timezones isn't a big deal. But for the fans who paid for tickets to WM they rightfully expect to get the whole package of every match and every superstar. A two day event would alleviate fatigue from the viewers at home, but again fans attending the event live want to see everything and a two-day ticket would be far more expensive as the WWE would need to cover the costs associated with hosting WM in a stadium two nights in a row.
I feel like the only solution to the crowd fatigue is to unfortunately cut back on the amount of matches which will in effect hamper WM paydays for many of the talent. To WWE's credit I find it admirable that they want to include everyone on the card even if things end up being a bloated mess.
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Post by JCBaggee on Apr 11, 2019 0:55:16 GMT -5
A 2-day festival is much more practical, and even that has its problems. SummerSlam would be the easiest way to test drive this. Position it as a weekend-long wrestling festival/event, with marquee matches and major title defenses in New York and California. Run an NXT special at the same time at some Florida beach party. Break it up across Fri/Sat/Sun in any way you see fit, and hype it up as a long party.
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Post by DDonaires on Apr 11, 2019 1:20:27 GMT -5
Totally agree, I think Summerslam would be the easy way to provide that Coachella/Outside Lands festival vibe. Where you can have matches going but folks can walk around and drink, eat or go do other activities like Axxess so they won't burn themselves out sitting in one spot for 7-8 hours
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Post by psychokiller on Apr 11, 2019 13:23:51 GMT -5
I think if it’s going to stay a 1 day event than they need to cut an hour out of the pre show & have 10 matches at best on the main card. Just put everyone that didn’t get a match into one of the two pre show battle royals. Maybe add a stipulation to the match where whoever wins get world title matches the next night on Raw so those matches have some meaning. I went to Mania this year & the show was just way too long. It should be a 1 hour pre show & 4 hours for the main show.
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Post by Hit Girl on Apr 11, 2019 13:32:59 GMT -5
Just make it a three day event, add some bands and call it Wrestlestock.
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Post by SirLucas on Apr 11, 2019 14:05:12 GMT -5
It's a different era. Back in the 1986, Pay Per View was in its infancy and watching closed circuit sporting events like boxing was the norm.
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Post by edgestar on Apr 11, 2019 14:38:07 GMT -5
Wrestlemania is not an inexpensive ticket. It would be a disaster, if someone bought a ticket, for the Florida portion, hoping to see New Day (as an example), then find out, that they're on the California portion. They will absolutely voice their opinions. Hell, they were chanting about the lighting, and that was just in 1 location!!! It'd be not the best PR move.
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Post by kevin on Apr 11, 2019 15:52:42 GMT -5
A 2-day festival is much more practical, and even that has its problems. A 4 hour show on Saturday and a 4 hour show on Sunday would be much better than one 8 hour show.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Apr 11, 2019 15:54:14 GMT -5
If you're going to experiment with this format, do it with a Takeover or as a Network special first.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2019 16:15:15 GMT -5
Nah. I like the fact that it’s a big 8 hour marathon.
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Post by fw91 on Apr 11, 2019 20:27:31 GMT -5
nah becuase you'd have to separate the roster which takes out an element of surprise. For example a big run in heel/face turn or MITB cash in can't happen if the the title/main event matches are on the West Coast, when the run in person is back East.
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Post by nisidhe on Apr 11, 2019 21:32:49 GMT -5
Wrestlemania 2's concept worked as a product of its time - satellite transmission was becoming increasing popular for newscasts and other events (1984's American Music Awards featured Culture Club performing live from London during the broadcast - Jesus, I'm old). Much was made of it then, so it was no wonder that Vince wanted in on it. The issues that arose were many of the ones already mentioned - technical difficulties on the day of, a split roster wrestling a half-card, but requiring a full production unit at each location; fan dissatisfaction with watching only half a wrestling card live; booking limitations preventing surprise run-ins, introducing new talents, etc., etc., etc.
Simply put, it was a great presentation experiment, one I for one was glad they tried, but one which revealed the weaknesses of the concept and gave Vince a myriad reasons not to try it again.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2019 12:56:01 GMT -5
Short answer: No
Long answer: Nooooooooooooooooo
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Apr 12, 2019 16:21:58 GMT -5
That would be Raw 25 but a thousand times worse
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