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Post by willywonka666 on Apr 15, 2019 9:46:30 GMT -5
So now that the HOF is over and with it, the tributes, clips and reminders of their run-what are your thoughts now as opposed to back then?
It was a fun speech save for a few bits, but after the continuous hype throughout the evening, I kinda looked at them differently.
Of course the whole HOF is hype, but from someone who watched at the time and seeing them today, it kinda tarnished an image that wasn't that shiny to begin with.
They owe a huge debt of gratitude to the nWo-and the nWo does to Japan for that matter.
I'm not trying to pick things apart-we have enough of that today, I just felt different about them after their speech than anyone else before.
Have you felt that way about anyone after their inductions?
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Apr 15, 2019 9:55:44 GMT -5
So now that the HOF is over and with it, the tributes, clips and reminders of their run-what are your thoughts now as opposed to back then? It was a fun speech save for a few bits, but after the continuous hype throughout the evening, I kinda looked at them differently. Of course the whole HOF is hype, but from someone who watched at the time and seeing them today, it kinda tarnished an image that wasn't that shiny to begin with. They owe a huge debt of gratitude to the nWo-and the nWo does to Japan for that matter. I'm not trying to pick things apart-we have enough of that today, I just felt different about them after their speech than anyone else before. Have you felt that way about anyone after their inductions? Rikishi comes to mine being that he didn't bring up Too Cool which that all dancing act as a trio was a huge factor in him being over like he was. Being just a fat guy in a thong before that wasn't get much a reaction. When he got with Too Cool and did the whole dancing bit, turned into massive pops. That went again hardly pops when they tried to make him heel as Austin hit and run deal. Nobody brought it.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Apr 15, 2019 9:56:30 GMT -5
I dunno, I feel kinda the same.
Once HBK left, they were an upper midcard group, but they have been and always been overhyped because:
1. The Boss in waiting was in it
2. One of their big moments involved crapping on WCW which Vince will NEVER tire of even 20 years after he buried them.
It is what it is, at the time they were entertaining, their entrance is still one of my favourites of all time, but we'll have to deal with a lot of crap because of those 2 reasons.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2019 10:01:55 GMT -5
They invaded WCW with a tank and basically ran them out of business.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Apr 15, 2019 10:55:05 GMT -5
We are looking at them through rose colored glasses as some legendary group, but even Triple H admitted that they were holding him back as a main eventer. There’s a reason why he never fought for Dogg and Billy and Waltman when they were getting fired.
In reality they were a midcard act that entertained the crowd while they were getting ready to watch Austin, the real draw.
Then the revival of dx, we had forty year old guys trying to be funny.
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Post by Pushed to the Moon on Apr 15, 2019 10:55:35 GMT -5
Maybe it's just cos HBK is ma boy but the original dX were a lot cooler and a bigger deal to me. The Hart Foundation beef was classic.
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Post by Ishmeal Loves BBL Bayley on Apr 15, 2019 10:58:18 GMT -5
I loved them. Of course I was 14. A lot of what they did is cringey now, but back then it was hip. HHH turning at Mania 15 was the catalyst to the top for him breaking through to the main event.
I love their heel run in late 99/2000, if only for their awesome Run DMC theme.
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Post by Aceorton on Apr 15, 2019 12:22:04 GMT -5
Gene Okerlund at the end of his HoF induction saying he wanted to be buried facedown so his critics could kiss his ass was like ... uh, what? Just needlessly tacky. I haven't looked at him the same since.
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Post by Prince Petty on Apr 15, 2019 12:27:14 GMT -5
I never liked DX. From the original format of Shawn, Hunter and Chyna, I couldn't stand them. The guys both irritated me tremendously, and that was further exacerbated by the fact I was a huge Bret Hart fan. Then, when HBK left and Triple H recruited more guys... it was f***ing X-Pac, who I only remembered as the 1-2-3 Kid, but quickly realised I hated. I liked the New Age Outlaws' music and Road Dogg's entrance schtick, but that was it.
In hindsight? I like them even less. Even gifs of their antics annoy me.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2019 12:38:58 GMT -5
Only the original DX with Shawn, HHH, Chyna, and Rude was any good, and that’s only because Shawn was allowed to be himself on camera (an absolute douche) and it came off completely authentic (as opposed to his babyface male stripper character).
Anything after WM 14 was carried by the Outlaws and Chyna. Even X Pac was super over in 1998-99. I thought they were the stars of that group more than HHH. It wasn’t until the Stephanie angle that HHH looked like a star rather than a mid carder.
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Post by salz4life on Apr 15, 2019 12:50:48 GMT -5
I found the original DX hilarious and fit with the times. The HHH led DX was ok, I guess, but it was never the same. The buildup to the reformed Shawn and HHH DX was fun and it started out us fun, but get old extremely fast. I hope HOF night is the last time we see anything that has to do with DX.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2019 13:05:10 GMT -5
We are looking at them through rose colored glasses as some legendary group, but even Triple H admitted that they were holding him back as a main eventer. There’s a reason why he never fought for Dogg and Billy and Waltman when they were getting fired. In reality they were a midcard act that entertained the crowd while they were getting ready to watch Austin, the real draw. Then the revival of dx, we had forty year old guys trying to be funny. HHH in DX is weird at the beginning he wasn’t over a lick but got the spot because he was HBK’s little buddy who joined DX and magically gained 100lbs of muscle very quickly then HBK left HHH took over and while a popular act he took DX from main event act to a midcard act that was all about selling merch then they tried their damnedest to make HHH a main eventer he beat rock foley vince and won the title a couple times quickly while being all over the tv and got bit in the face by a cobra all textbook things to make a main eventer but he wasn’t very over so they put him back with DX again that helped a little but it wasn’t till they put him with Steph and the feud with Cactus that he actually started getting over once that happened DX 2000 served no real purpose much like NWO 2000 it was an act that was well past its sell by date but atleast DX 2000 didn’t have Jeff Jarrett & The Harris Boys.2006 on was all about nostalgia,selling merch and allowing HHH & HBK to be lazy and bury the roster and the company in a lame attempt to seem cool. The Original DX with HBK,HHH and Chyna was my favorite their entrance was revolutionary and the concept was fresh plus they got heat and HBK was very instrumental in helping Austin be an even bigger deal to alot of fans HBK was Vince’s chosen one at the time who vince picked over Bret so Austin beating him was a big deal.After HBK leaves their really popular but midcard then 2000 on HHH is so far above them and Mr.Dogg,Mr.Ass and Mr.X-Pac are pretty much NWO B Team.
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Post by chronocross on Apr 15, 2019 13:14:17 GMT -5
I never really liked the original DX with HBK/Triple-H/Chyna, post-WM14 I started to care a bit, but once the feud with the Nation got off and running I started to pay more attention to them. In hindsight, like much of the Attitude Era, it's cringey and usually fast-forwarded when I watch old Raws/PPVs.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2019 13:20:00 GMT -5
Gene Okerlund at the end of his HoF induction saying he wanted to be buried facedown so his critics could kiss his ass was like ... uh, what? Just needlessly tacky. I haven't looked at him the same since. Gene was awesome at his job and an all-time great but alot of his act was tacky and he said stuff like that all the time.
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Post by Squirrel Master on Apr 15, 2019 13:45:35 GMT -5
DX antics were juvenile at best. To me, that shit was corny. I liked enforcer Rick Rude in the background, however. He gave the crew some credibility.
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Post by Doctor No on Apr 15, 2019 14:01:56 GMT -5
DX ended up being only about 10% good, the rest of the time they were bad-garbage quality.
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Post by King Boo on Apr 15, 2019 18:05:16 GMT -5
They invaded WCW with a tank and basically ran them out of business. Surely we would have heard about this by now. A clip, a mention on a countdown, SOMETHING.
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Post by DiBiase is Good on Apr 15, 2019 18:11:09 GMT -5
DX was very important to the Monday Night War. But... The way WWE make them out, they were the sole reason the war was won and apparently Shawn and HHH are one of the best tag teams in history. Hogan, Austin, Flair, Hart, Rhodes, Bruno, Sting. All headlined their HOF classes, all bigger stars than DX, all more important to the sport. Yet none of them had hype videos running through the night licking their arse.
As I said last weekend, I was a big fan of the first couple of years of DX and they are a big reason that helped turn the tide in WWF’s favour in the late 90s. But WWE constantly overplay them.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Apr 15, 2019 18:17:52 GMT -5
DX was very important to the Monday Night War. But... The way WWE make them out, they were the sole reason the war was won and apparently Shawn and HHH are one of the best tag teams in history. Hogan, Austin, Flair, Hart, Rhodes, Bruno, Sting. All headlined their HOF classes, all bigger stars than DX, all more important to the sport. Yet none of them had hype videos running through the night licking their arse. As I said last weekend, I was a big fan of the first couple of years of DX and they are a big reason that helped turn the tide in WWF’s favour in the late 90s. But WWE constantly overplay them. I badly want to believe that at least Shawn was on their level. But he wasn't. The combination of his fragile (at the time) ego and his injuries had him sit out Rock's entire run on top (and even if he hadn't, Rock didn't want to work with him), and I feel like that's always going to work against him. Even though he was my first (and still all-time) favorite Main Eventer.
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Post by DiBiase is Good on Apr 15, 2019 18:21:42 GMT -5
DX was very important to the Monday Night War. But... The way WWE make them out, they were the sole reason the war was won and apparently Shawn and HHH are one of the best tag teams in history. Hogan, Austin, Flair, Hart, Rhodes, Bruno, Sting. All headlined their HOF classes, all bigger stars than DX, all more important to the sport. Yet none of them had hype videos running through the night licking their arse. As I said last weekend, I was a big fan of the first couple of years of DX and they are a big reason that helped turn the tide in WWF’s favour in the late 90s. But WWE constantly overplay them. I badly want to believe that at least Shawn was on their level. But he wasn't. The combination of his fragile (at the time) ego and his injuries had him sit out Rock's entire run on top (and even if he hadn't, Rock didn't want to work with him), and I feel like that's always going to work against him. Even though he was my first (and still all-time) favorite Main Eventer. I’d put Shawn in that same group as the others I listed. I just listed a few headliners off the top of my head.
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